Please de-scribe me for now. Thank you
On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, you wrote:
>Please de-scribe me for now. Thank you
Not much to go on, but I'll try.
You are using Netscape 4.03 running under Windows 95.
The dial-up connection is to dialup27.phnx.uswest.net
Your IP address when the message was sent anyway is 188.8.131.52
And your service provider uses qmail (much better than sendmail)
Your Name is Steven Coles and your user name is "arids" and the
password is ******
I'm guessing phnx is probably Phoenix and you live in the
Phoenix area, since the dialin is phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net
A search on Altavista, confirms the Phoenix Arizona location
and also shows that you are interested in Electric Vehicles.
And yes, I'm joking.. (sort of)
Ray Gardiner hdc.com.auray
If you subscribe to get on a list, shouldn't you superscribe to get off the
list ? ;-)
Like Dorothy in the Wizard of OZ, who had the power to leave OZ at any
time, subscribers to the piclist have the power to unsubscribe at any time.
Unlike Dorothy, who needed to be told by the Good Witch how to return home,
subscribers to the piclist were given unsubscribe instructions at the very
At least the last guy was polite!
P.S. I like Peter Cousens' suggestion that there be an unsubscribe contest,
the winner to be given a LIFETIME SUBSCRIPTION !
Bob Blick wrote:
>P.S. I like Peter Cousens' suggestion that there be an unsubscribe contest,
>the winner to be given a LIFETIME SUBSCRIPTION !
Clearly there should be an entrance exam. You should have to demonstrate your
ability to unsubscribe before you are allowed to subscribe.
Bob Cousins, Software Engineer.
Home page at http://www.lintilla.demon.co.uk/
|Steven Coles wrote:
> Please de-scribe me for now. Thank you
On first impression, you are someone who doesn't RFTM. I really
don't know you well enough to de-scribe you, but if you want to
unsubscribe, well :
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT EMAIL ADDRESSES
1) PICLIST = this list (what you are reading now)
2) LISTSERV = the address to send commands to
If you can't grasp this, you should ask someone to help you.
To recap (again, and again, and again, and again, and again ad naseum) :
Point 1 :
You may leave the list at any time by writing "SIGNOFF PICLIST" in the body
of at message to MITVMA.MIT.EDU.LISTSERV
Point 2 :
The list server doesn't give a shit if you write 'unsubscribe' ten gazillion tim
es in any
number of messages to the list (MITVA.MIT.EDU). This is for the Piclist PICLIST
traffic (what you are reading now).
Point 3 :
If you have your email address changed, unsubscribe BEFORE changing you email
address - you can't do it afterwards..
Point 4 :
You may think your email looks snazzy with all the HTML turds in it, but to
the rest of the world, it is a pain in the ass. Not only is it only unsupported
half the damn email readers, it is TOTALLY INCOMPREHENSIBLE to the
list server. You can send unsubscribe command in any f@#$ing font and size
with nude pictures of Pamela Anderson, you ain't going nowhere, baby.
Point 5 :
Using automated "I am out of the office for the weekend" may dazzle your
colleges with your impressive command of Microsoft products, but it
irritates and infuriates the other 99.99% when all mail from the PIClist is
returned with this incredibly informative and exciting message.
|> Please de-scribe me for now. Thank you
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