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1998\12\07@104157 by WF AUTOMACAO

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Gabriel Caffese wrote:
>
> Hello,
>         My name is Gabriel Caffese, and have been working
> with 16C84 for the last year or so.
>         I have lost the source code of my last project, and would like
> to get it back by reading the PROTECTED 16C84.
>         Does anyone know a way of doing this ?
>
>                 Thank you very much.-

read this.............if found my old e-mails file...
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try this:
DELLFERN, tel 0384 444570, fax:0384 444571
on their advertisement(ETI magazine february 1995, United Kingdom): we
can copy any commercially available protected
devices even if security fused or code locked. pal,gal,pic,mpu,etc
goodluck
-----------------------

Miguel

1998\12\07@132844 by D. Schouten

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>read this.............if found my old e-mails file...
>-------------------------------
>try this:
>DELLFERN, tel 0384 444570, fax:0384 444571
>on their advertisement(ETI magazine february 1995, United Kingdom):
we
>can copy any commercially available protected
>devices even if security fused or code locked. pal,gal,pic,mpu,etc
>goodluck
>-----------------------
>
>Miguel
>

These M*therf**kers copied one of our PIC chips we use in a commercial
product! Lost thousands of dollars due to the fact that they're
selling the 100% copied product cheap under another brand name. The
development of the firmware inside this chip have cost us one year.

Maybe it's wise not to mention the above address anymore. It will
definately help some PIC coders on this list too.

Bye,

Daniel...

(who's thinking of pouring every PIC based product in epoxy)

1998\12\07@134918 by William M. Smithers

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On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, D. Schouten wrote:

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> (who's thinking of pouring every PIC based product in epoxy)
>

I do.  But epoxy isn't the best choice - there are some
REALLY hard opaque potting compounds available that are
virtually impossible to get through without destroying the
contents.

-Will

1998\12\07@144857 by Mark Willis

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William M. Smithers wrote:
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> On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, D. Schouten wrote:
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> >
> > (who's thinking of pouring every PIC based product in epoxy)
> >
>
> I do.  But epoxy isn't the best choice - there are some
> REALLY hard opaque potting compounds available that are
> virtually impossible to get through without destroying the
> contents.
>
> -Will

 Are any of these, X-Ray opaque as well?  (I'd love it, may end up
putting lead shavings in one project otherwise - Dang Customer
Requirements...)

 Mark, spam_OUTmwillisTakeThisOuTspamnwlink.com

1998\12\07@145653 by kfisk

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> On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, D. Schouten wrote:
>
> >
> > (who's thinking of pouring every PIC based product in epoxy)
> >
>
> I do.  But epoxy isn't the best choice - there are some
> REALLY hard opaque potting compounds available that are
> virtually impossible to get through without destroying the
> contents.

What are they?

Cheers,

Kevin

1998\12\07@162034 by wwl

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On Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:49:55 +0100, you wrote:

>>read this.............if found my old e-mails file...
>>-------------------------------
>>try this:
>
>>can copy any commercially available protected
>>devices even if security fused or code locked. pal,gal,pic,mpu,etc
>>goodluck
>>-----------------------
>>
>>Miguel
>>
>
>These M*therf**kers copied one of our PIC chips we use in a commercial
>product! Lost thousands of dollars due to the fact that they're
>selling the 100% copied product cheap under another brand name. The
>development of the firmware inside this chip have cost us one year.
>
>Maybe it's wise not to mention the above address anymore. It will
>definately help some PIC coders on this list too.
>
One handy hint that has swung one legal case I know of.... Build in
some hidden functionality to the product - some bizarre combination of
buttons or whatever that performs no useful function and will not be
found by accident.
This provides a very easy way to prove that a rival product uses
ripped-off code.

1998\12\07@232324 by Tjaart van der Walt

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Mike Harrison wrote:
> >These M*therf**kers copied one of our PIC chips we use in a commercial
> >product! Lost thousands of dollars due to the fact that they're
> >selling the 100% copied product cheap under another brand name. The
> >development of the firmware inside this chip have cost us one year.
> >
> >Maybe it's wise not to mention the above address anymore. It will
> >definately help some PIC coders on this list too.
> >
> One handy hint that has swung one legal case I know of.... Build in
> some hidden functionality to the product - some bizarre combination of
> buttons or whatever that performs no useful function and will not be
> found by accident.
> This provides a very easy way to prove that a rival product uses
> ripped-off code.

Very good idea. Something like the 'easter eggs' in Windows, or
some cell phones (like the Siemens).

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