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2000\02\04@065203 by Chunhee Song

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 Hi, guys.

Is there any way I can set up a dc motor as a tachometer?
I want to one dc motor to do some labor task and another as a
tachometer to create a speed variable for measurement and
feedback purpose. Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

 Thank you, Chunhee

2000\02\04@065751 by Andy Bassam

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Chenhee

I am currently doing a project where i use the feedback from the
DC motor and using a PIC output the speed to and LCD.

The best and probably easiest way is to use a Voltage to
Frequency converter, this is then put into PIC where an A/D
conversion is undertaken, it is then just a case to output this to the
LCD.

If you want some circuits and source code, email me personally.

spam_OUTamb1engTakeThisOuTspammail.bolton.ac.uk

2000\02\04@111551 by wagner

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I alreay saw several suggestions to use a DC motor as a generator, to
measure rpm, speed and so on.
This solution involves losses at the voltage generation at the motor
(also temperature dependent), losses at the conversion ADC, and requires
an ADC or as you say below, or a conversion voltage - frequency...

I always wanted to suggest to do a surgery at the motor, and transform
it into a pulse generator.

See, a DC motor has coils connected to the collectors that are in
constant contact with the brushes. Rotating the motor, will generate a
voltage that will be transfered to the brushes, and the outside world.

The following procedure can works in motors with 4 or more collector
contacts.

a) Carefully open the motor.

b) Locate the coils and collector contacts.

c) cut all the wires from the coils to the collector contacts.

d) short circuit two collector contacts only, one should be in opposite
side of the shaft to another. Be careful to use a very small wire and
install it in such way that it will not interfere with the motor
mechanic rotation. It should have at least one floating collector
contact between the shorted ones, this is why using 4 contacts only 2
got shorted.

e) close the motor.

When rotating, the motor will not generate any voltage anymore, but a
solid and strong short circuit per turn.
At your PIC, using a pullup resistor connected to the port pin, also
goes to one motor wire, other motor wire goes to ground, just count
those pulses in time, it will be one per revolution...

Wagner

Andy Bassam wrote:
> I am currently doing a project where i use the feedback from the
> DC motor and using a PIC output the speed to and LCD.
>
> The best and probably easiest way is to use a Voltage to
> Frequency converter, this is then put into PIC where an A/D
> conversion is undertaken, it is then just a case to output this to the
> LCD.

2000\02\05@094509 by Donald L Burdette

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Wagner Lipnharski wrote:

>I always wanted to suggest to do a surgery at the
>motor, and transform it into a pulse generator.

Wagner -

Why go to such trouble, when a simple slotted disk will provide the same
effect?

Don

2000\02\05@123429 by Wagner Lipnharski

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Why go to such trouble with a slotted disk, if you can buy a ready made
encoder, ball bearings, 3 years warranty?
Wagner

Donald L Burdette wrote:
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2000\02\05@204017 by Wagner Lipnharski

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andy howard wrote:
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> > When rotating, the motor will not generate any voltage anymore, but a
> > solid and strong short circuit per turn.
> > At your PIC, using a pullup resistor connected to the port pin, also
> > goes to one motor wire, other motor wire goes to ground, just count
> > those pulses in time, it will be one per revolution...
>
> Two, surely?

...hehe, yes, two..., except if the short is made by a diode :)

2000\02\06@084456 by Donald L Burdette

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Because those things are EXPENSIVE.
Don

>Why go to such trouble with a slotted disk, if you can buy a ready made
>encoder, ball bearings, 3 years warranty?
>Wagner
>
>Donald L Burdette wrote:
>>
>> Wagner Lipnharski wrote:
>>
>> >I always wanted to suggest to do a surgery at the
>> >motor, and transform it into a pulse generator.
>>
>> Wagner -
>>
>> Why go to such trouble, when a simple slotted disk will provide the
same
>> effect?
>>
>> Don

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