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'Converting the piclist to a newsgroup.'
1997\01\07@155626 by Ian Stirling

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Would anyone object to me posting an RFD (request for discussion)
for such a group?
Perhaps under comp.arch.embedded.pic?
comp.arch.embedded currently gets slightly fewer spam/off topic posts
than
the piclist currently does.
For more  information on the steps involved in making a new newsgroup,
have a look at the newsgroup news.announce.newgroups

1997\01\07@171205 by peter

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Ian Stirling wrote:
>
> Would anyone object to me posting an RFD (request for discussion)
> for such a group?
> Perhaps under comp.arch.embedded.pic?
> comp.arch.embedded currently gets slightly fewer spam/off topic posts
> than
> the piclist currently does.
> For more  information on the steps involved in making a new newsgroup,
> have a look at the newsgroup news.announce.newgroups

Yes I object
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1997\01\07@173058 by Byron A Jeff

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> Would anyone object to me posting an RFD (request for discussion)
> for such a group?

Well there have been several discussions about newsgroups and the
PICLIST. Personally if the newsgroup isn't related to the LIST, go right
ahead.

> Perhaps under comp.arch.embedded.pic?

Sounds fine to me.

> comp.arch.embedded currently gets slightly fewer spam/off topic posts
> than
> the piclist currently does.

Well mailing lists and newsgroups are quite a bit different.

The real issue is whether or not there's going to be a gateway between
the list and the newsgroup. If so then there are quite a few issues to
talk about.

BAJ

1997\01\08@044947 by Wolfram Liebchen

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At 14:26 07.01.97 +0000, you wrote:
>Would anyone object to me posting an RFD (request for discussion)
>for such a group?
>

I would not be able to follow a newsgroup, because our institution allows
only email and WWW.

Wolfram


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1997\01\08@055326 by Inge Arnesen

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> At 14:26 07.01.97 +0000, you wrote:
> >Would anyone object to me posting an RFD (request for discussion)
> >for such a group?
> >
>
> I would not be able to follow a newsgroup, because our institution allows
> only email and WWW.

There are at least two solutions to that problem:

- Have a WWW interface for the newsgroup at some site (this is common
 for mailing list archives)

- Have a mailing list in addition to a newsgroup. That way those of
 us who prefer a newsgroup can use that, and those who prefer the
 mailing list can keep using that.

There are some obvious pro's for having a newsgroup.


Regards,

Bob (tm)

1997\01\08@082533 by arry P. Thomas WA0GWA

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For my 2 cents, I,m not in favor of a newsgroup. As it is "Eudora Pro"
receives the mail throughout the day and drops it into its own mail box
which look at as I have time.  I would not follow a newsgroup.
Larry
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1997\01\08@093043 by Roger Books

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I have no objections either way as I currently read and post to several
newsgroups, however...  for those that either don't currently read
usenet news, or don't post much, there is currently a rapidly growing
and rather annoying problem.  There are net-marketting individuals that
download usenet headers and use the e-mail addresses from that to send
out their garbage.  I currently recieve 10-15 UCE's (Unsolicited
Commercial E-mails) a day, and it seems to be gradually getting worse.  If
you do make a newsgroup I would really recommend not gating the list to
it as the list insulates many from this spam.  Of course, if you are an
occasional reader of the list the volume is rather heavy and is almost
as good as a spam.

However, when was the last time you read about CD-R prices on the
piclist?  When was the last time someone tried to start a flamewar?

Roger

1997\01\08@123312 by Conor O'Rourke

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> For my 2 cents, I,m not in favor of a newsgroup. As it is "Eudora Pro"
> receives the mail throughout the day and drops it into its own mail box
> which look at as I have time.  I would not follow a newsgroup.
> Larry

Hmmm. I just resubscribed after two months and this thread is here again.
Might as well add my 2pence worth......
A newsgroup is a bit silly and you lose the high signal to noise ratio
of a mailing list. It was decided many times not to have a newsgroup but
I do think it might be nice to have a www page with pic 'threads' on it.
Easyish to implement - just write a script to copy your mail to a database
of some sort. Use GLIMPSE or something similar or write your own...
I'd do it myself but I don't have a server to play with :-) <excuse.h>
I'm on a VAX here and the mail software is a bit limited and it
might be nice to use the web instead.

Conor.

1997\01\08@181840 by Martin J. Maney

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On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Inge Arnesen wrote:

> There are some obvious pro's for having a newsgroup.

Such as being able to use readers designed to deal with c. 100 messages
per day.

Just a convenient point to say that I would favor creation of a
PIC-oriented news group; like others, I don't think it should have any
automatic bridge to the mail list.

1997\01\09@120637 by John Piccirillo

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>From:    Wolfram Liebchen <.....liebchenKILLspamspam.....FFO.FGAN.DE>
>Subject: Re: Converting  the piclist to a newsgroup.

>I would not be able to follow a newsgroup, because our institution allows
>only email and WWW.

  Me too (I also).

John-

1997\01\09@140432 by Dwayne Reid

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>Would anyone object to me posting an RFD (request for discussion)
>for such a group?

My personal preference is to keep this as a mailing list.  I do not follow
newsgroups regularily because of the exceedingly high noise content that
most of them seem to have.

Dwayne

1997\01\11@051914 by Mwa.Dekkers

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Yes to Newsgroup !

This way, your mailbox does not get trashed / filled up  and other mail
will not get lost.

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