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'Christmas greetings from the dawn of the day'
2010\12\24@073328 by RussellMc

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A little late - now 1:22am on Christmas morning. I meant to send this
soon after midnight but stuff happened.
Please assume this was sent in spirit if not in fact at 12:01am
Christmas morning ...

It will be Christmas somewhere on earth for the next 49 hours. Here in
New Zealand at the beginning of every new day on earth we have the
privilege of occupying the first 24/49's of it (unless we travel on
average more East than West or more West than East in the next day of
so.)

So - wishing you all a blessed Christmas for the 24/49th's of it (more
or less) that you get to occupy and may the spirit of what Christmas
is meant to be about* inspire you both today and in the year to come.

Have a good one,

      Russell


* Anyone who finds that objectionable, please be advised that you've
got the wrong idea of what it's meant to be about (as alas too much of
the world has). Please contact me by private email and we'll see if we
can hammer out an approved meaning between us, and help set the world
to rights in the process

2010\12\24@143426 by Robert Csaba Molnar

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The warmest Christmas wishes to you all.

Kind Regards,
Robert Csaba Molnar

P.S. Russel i'll give you an rtc with a nice crystal as a gift for next Christmas so your clock wont be off next time :)


--- On Fri, 12/24/10, RussellMc <spam_OUTapptechnzTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:

From: RussellMc <.....apptechnzKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com>
Subject: Christmas greetings from the dawn of the day
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <piclistspamKILLspammit.edu>
Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 2:32 PM

A little late - now 1:22am on Christmas morning. I meant to send this
soon after midnight but stuff happened.
Please assume this was sent in spirit if not in fact at 12:01am
Christmas morning ...

It will be Christmas somewhere on earth for the next 49 hours. Here in
New Zealand at the beginning of every new day on earth we have the
privilege of occupying the first 24/49's of it (unless we travel on
average more East than West or more West than East in the next day of
so.)

So - wishing you all a blessed Christmas for the 24/49th's of it (more
or less) that you get to occupy and may the spirit of what Christmas
is meant to be about* inspire you both today and in the year to come.

Have a good one,

       Russell


* Anyone who finds that objectionable, please be advised that you've
got the wrong idea of what it's meant to be about (as alas too much of
the world has). Please contact me by private email and we'll see if we
can hammer out an approved meaning between us, and help set the world
to rights in the process

2010\12\24@155350 by V G

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The warmest winter solstice wishes to you all as well (from Canada)

2010\12\24@223447 by Oli Glaser

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On 24/12/2010 12:32, RussellMc wrote:
> A little late - now 1:22am on Christmas morning. I meant to send this
> soon after midnight but stuff happened.
> Please assume this was sent in spirit if not in fact at 12:01am
> Christmas morning ...
>
> It will be Christmas somewhere on earth for the next 49 hours. Here in
> New Zealand at the beginning of every new day on earth we have the
> privilege of occupying the first 24/49's of it (unless we travel on
> average more East than West or more West than East in the next day of
> so.)
>
> So - wishing you all a blessed Christmas for the 24/49th's of it (more
> or less) that you get to occupy and may the spirit of what Christmas
> is meant to be about* inspire you both today and in the year to come.
>
> Have a good one,
>
>         Russell

Thanks Russell :-)

It's been Christmas for 3 hours 34 minutes here, so here's wishing everyone on the Piclist a very merry Christmas..
Now if only Santa will bring me that 45Ghz (bandwidth, not sample rate!) Lecroy Wavemaster 8 Zi-A scope... :-)

2010\12\24@231941 by V G

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Are there really THAT many Christians here

2010\12\24@232918 by Roger, in Bangkok

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What has that got to do with heartfelt greetings being
given/accepted/politely-ignored?
:-))

I highly recommend sharing the joy of others' cultural/religious/other
belifs and practices ... it really does help foster a better
understanding/acceptance/tolerance of others simply as fellow human beings.
There's little point in keeping score as to who is what or why:-)  Enjoy
the season for whatever your personal reason.

pulpit/off

RiB

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:19, V G <.....x.solarwind.xKILLspamspam.....gmail.com> wrote:

> Are there really THAT many Christians here?
>

2010\12\24@233609 by Oli Glaser

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On 25/12/2010 04:19, V G wrote:
> Are there really THAT many Christians here?

I'm an agnostic... but I believe in Santa... :-)

2010\12\24@234154 by jim

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I count myself as one.  AMEN!

Jim

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Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 10:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Christmas greetings from the dawn of the day

Are there really THAT many Christians here

2010\12\25@015327 by RussellMc

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> Are there really THAT many Christians here?

1. That probably qualifies for  the "lets get together to save the
world together OFFLIST" invitation :-).

2. "THAT many" people who celebrate Christmas as a positive event, certainly.

3. Yes :-).

Consider it "seasons greetings".
Some have and more may soon follow with a slew of other seasonal
greetings or festive allusions* - whether complementary, derivative,
orthogonal or antagonistic. As long as they all have the same general
base theme it works for me **.

* eg Kwanzaa (aka matunda ya kwanza)- "artificial" and very
johny-come-lately, but of potential value and meaning nonetheless.,
Yule, Hogmanay, Saturnalia (with due reservations :-) ) and more.
** Even the notionally antagonistic may - which may not always be what
they seem.

Note that none of this is "religion" per se - or need not be. It may
teeter along the edges thereof if so desired or various may be be
irretrievably rooted in some or other religious observations - but the
general spirit of the occasions are usually transcendant and/or  of
such general value as to be safe in the hands of mature adults.

Seasons greetings don't kill people. People kill people.


            Russell






               Russel

2010\12\25@030944 by William Chops Westfield

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On Dec 24, 2010, at 8:41 PM, jim wrote:

> Are there really THAT many Christians here?

1) Duh!  (http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_North_America   )
2) You should be used to it.
3) Tidings of joy should rarely be rejected, even if they originate  outside of your own beliefs.
4) Better discussed off list.
However...  Keeping more on-topic for non-tagged posts...
Happy Babbage's Birthday!
---------------
When Babbage's Birthday rolls around
We hold our annual Shopping Spree
With every C-P- U  you buy
Get a floppy disk completely free!
We've acres of used computers here
The biggest selection in the land
At prices from just fifty cents
To seven hundred and fifty grand!
    It's Uncle Ernie's Used Computer
    Babbage's Birthday bargain bash
    Once-in-a-lifetime discount deals
    All sales are final and strictly cash!
We've Altair's, Imsai's, Apple Three's
And PC Junior's by the score
And if you fancy something big
A mainframe's only slightly more!
Take that 7090 there,
Such magtape drives did y'ever see?
And whether it runs with tape or cards
Get a floppy disk completely free!
If energy bills are out of sight
Don't sit and shiver in the cold
To help you beat the cost of heat
We're offering real-time control.
Straight from the nuclear industry
Here's a real hot number just for you
It glows in the dark a little so
It makes a dandy night-light too!
Now in the robot section here
We've Heathkit Heros by the score
And a couple of custom models that
Were only used in one star war!
Robbie here is a great machine
Did you ever see such a friendly face?
The price is very low because
We found him drifting lost in space!
(Steve Savitzky.  1985.  TTTO Finnegan's Wake
http://steve.savitzky.net/Songs/uncle/ )

2010\12\25@054826 by Michael Watterson

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On 25/12/2010 04:41, jim wrote:
> I count myself as one.  AMEN!
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: @spam@piclist-bouncesKILLspamspammit.edu [KILLspampiclist-bouncesKILLspamspammit.edu] On Behalf Of
> V G
> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 10:19 PM
> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
> Subject: Re: Christmas greetings from the dawn of the day
>
> Are there really THAT many Christians here?
You'd be surprised.

The point too about story of Sheep & Goats is that in M.E. the Sheep look like goats. Short flat wiry fur and large floppy ears. Some people don't realise which they are themselves.

But no Shepherd is in the Fields there in December. It was probably Sept/Oct judging from Date John the Baptist's father was serving in Temple.

But if there was no mid winter feast we would need to invent one. I wonder what people south of Equator do end of June

2010\12\25@083729 by RussellMc

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> But no Shepherd is in the Fields there in December. It was probably
> Sept/Oct judging from Date John the Baptist's father was serving in Temple.

I note the following as of historic interest. Not intended to be
slippery slope into religious discussion. Jewish observance of temple
duties was taken very seriously indeed. Who did what when was all very
strictly laid out and observed to the absolute letter. The sacking of
the Jewish temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD after the city had been under
siege by the Romans for several years is recorded in great detail and
precise date is known. The priestly detail that was on duty at the
time is also known from the same records. From this and other records
which detail the groups involved, lengths of time on temple duty etc
it is possible to roll the time table backwards over 70 years or so
until the time at which John the Baptist was born. IF you take the
biblical account of JTB's father being on priestly duty at the time as
historical fact then you can date the time within a series of time
windows relating to his duties. This is what MW is alluding to. If you
don't consider the JTB's father's story to be history ten the rest is
irrelevant.

FWIW my father in law was in Bethlehem at Christmas time during WW2.
He took photos. Light dusting of snow as I recall (many years since I
saw the photos). Not the sort of conditions you'd like to be out on
the hills with sheep in. But not inconceivable either. Given that it
is generally believed that climate conditions were substantially
warmer at that stage (really - Roman "warm period")   then it's not
inconceivable that shepherds and flocks were out and about at around
that time. BUT afaik there is no primary biblical evidence to suggest
a December date for its nativity records - or any other date. Only
secondary adumbrations as Michael noted.

I anyone would like to read a short Science Fiction story of mine
(unpublished, 10+ years old) that suggests a very very very different
perspective on the events around that time ask OFFLIST and when I
locate it I'll send you a copy. Some would consider such an
alternative rendering sacrilegious - but it fits in essentially
perfectly with the biblical account and does no violence to the core
story - just twists the brain somewhat.


    Russell




>
> But if there was no mid winter feast we would need to invent one. I
> wonder what people south of Equator do end of June?
>

2010\12\31@075815 by RussellMc

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Welcome to 2011, one hour young now, arriving in a country somewhere near
you in the next 23 hours or so, and with us all somewhere on earth for the
next 48 hours.

Hoping that 2011 may indeed be, despite all the many indications to the
contrary, a year of Peace on Earth and goodwill from ALL to ALL.


         Russell

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       He aha te mea nui -  He tangata! He tangata! He tangata!

                   http://public.fotki.com/RussellMc/people/he-tangata/

       For full image click "get original uploaded file". About 5.5 MB.

(I'm in there 5 (or more) times - more than average for my photos)


'Christmas greetings from the dawn of the day'
2011\01\02@132905 by Barry Gershenfeld
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On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:57 AM, RussellMc <RemoveMEapptechnzTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:

> Welcome to 2011, one hour young now, arriving in a country somewhere near
> you ...


Appreciate the service you provide, in trying out the New Year ahead of
time, so that when it hits us we know it will be without trauma (especially
true during the 2000/2001 "millennium panic"

2011\01\02@133817 by alan.b.pearce

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> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 4:57 AM, RussellMc <spamBeGoneapptechnzspamBeGonespamgmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Welcome to 2011, one hour young now, arriving in a country somewhere
> near
> > you ...
>
>
> Appreciate the service you provide, in trying out the New Year ahead of
> time, so that when it hits us we know it will be without trauma
> (especially
> true during the 2000/2001 "millennium panic")

Maybe Apple should have done the same with the iPhone alarm, which seems to have Another Glitch (TM) ...
-- Scanned by iCritical.

2011\01\08@120458 by RussellMc

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> I anyone would like to read a short Science Fiction story of mine
> (unpublished, 10+ years old) that suggests a very very very different
> perspective on the events around that time ask OFFLIST and when I
> locate it I'll send you a copy. Some would consider such an
> alternative rendering sacrilegious - but it fits in essentially
> perfectly with the biblical account and does no violence to the core
> story - just twists the brain somewhat.

I've located the story mentioned above and have sent it to the people
who asked for a copy whose replies I've been able to locate (possibly
all, maybe not).

If you asked but have not just been sent a copy, or if you'd like a
copy, please ask.
Offlist or on - offlist probably better.



        Russell



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2011\01\09@053557 by Herman Aalderink

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Russell,

I am very interested, please send to:

TakeThisOuThermanaaEraseMEspamspam_OUTgmail.com

Thanks !!

Herman in Philippines.


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