Post by thread:Chips in our body(ABC news)

Have anyone read about this: From ABC Sept. 3/98 ____________________ "A professor in England recently became the first person known to have implanted a microchip in his body to communicate with outside machines. Find out what this "cyborg man" has in mind during a live chat. "In late August, cybernetics researcher Kevin Warwick gave a startling demonstration of the merger of man and machine by having a biochip implanted in his arm. When he walks through his office building, the lights turn on and a voice from a wall speaker tells him how much e-mail he has waiting." "As I move about, the computer in the building can track me," Warwick, professor of cybernetics at the University of Reading. "Potentially, machines could be more intelligent than humans."

I am sure after a few years the professor that has pic in his hand is going to talk to his wife in assembly language. like movf bread,w ; locate the bread movwf to,me ; pass it to me just kidding. Andre Eduardo Rivera wrote: {Quote hidden}> Have anyone read about this: > > From ABC Sept. 3/98 > ____________________ > "A professor in England recently became the first > person known to have implanted a microchip in his > body to communicate with outside machines. Find out > what this "cyborg man" has in mind during a live chat. > > "In late August, cybernetics researcher Kevin > Warwick gave a startling demonstration of the > merger of man and machine by having a biochip > implanted in his arm. When he walks through his > office building, the lights turn on and a voice from > a wall speaker tells him how much e-mail he has > waiting." > "As I move about, the computer in the building can track > me," Warwick, professor of cybernetics at the University of > Reading. "Potentially, machines could be more intelligent than > humans."

now wait a minute!!! This has posibilties....hook into our body....and send data streams to each other!!! I've always wanted a serial port...actually, kept saying I wanted a 'cereal' port, perhaps a 'gerber' format for my kids. That way I could just download data and see whats wrong, and upload the proper data to them. This has me thinkin....hehe {Quote hidden}> ---------- > From: Andre Abelian[SMTP:spam_OUTandreTakeThisOuTcompufire.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 1998 4:12 PM > To: .....PICLISTKILLspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: Chips in our body(ABC news) > > I am sure after a few years the professor that has pic in > his hand is going to talk to his wife in assembly language. > > like > > movf bread,w ; locate the bread > movwf to,me ; pass it to me > > just kidding. > > Andre > > > > Eduardo Rivera wrote: > > > Have anyone read about this: > > > > From ABC Sept. 3/98 > > ____________________ > > "A professor in England recently became the first > > person known to have implanted a microchip in his > > body to communicate with outside machines. Find > out > > what this "cyborg man" has in mind during a live > chat. > > > > "In late August, cybernetics researcher Kevin > > Warwick gave a startling demonstration of the > > merger of man and machine by having a biochip > > implanted in his arm. When he walks through his > > office building, the lights turn on and a voice from > > a wall speaker tells him how much e-mail he has > > waiting." > > "As I move about, the computer in the building can track > > me," Warwick, professor of cybernetics at the > University of > > Reading. "Potentially, machines could be more > intelligent than > > humans." >

At 03:48 PM 9/23/98 +0000, you wrote: >> "As I move about, the computer in the building can track >> me," Warwick, professor of cybernetics at the University of >> Reading. "Potentially, machines could be more intelligent than >> humans." > >Well, more intelligent than Prof. Warwick shouldn't be much of a >challenge. What an idiot. > >Bob "I am not a number" Blick > I, too, thought that the comment "machines could be more intelligent than humans" was very strange and totally unconnected with the rest of what was being said. What does inteligence have to do with tracking ability and interfacing ability?! Sean +--------------------------------+ | Sean Breheny | | Amateur Radio Callsign: KA3YXM | | Electrical Engineering Student | +--------------------------------+ Save lives, please look at http://www.all.org Personal page: http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/shb7 shb7KILLspamcornell.edu Phone(USA): (607) 253-0315 ICQ #: 3329174

Bob Blick wrote: >> "As I move about, the computer in the building can track >> me," Warwick, professor of cybernetics at the University of >> Reading. "Potentially, machines could be more intelligent than >> humans." > >Well, more intelligent than Prof. Warwick shouldn't be much of a >challenge. What an idiot. Apparently Warwick has a chip in his shoulder; whereas you have one on your shoulder ;-) This happened a few weeks ago anyway, and I think the chip will now have been removed. I'm surprised with all the people blowing things up noone else got a semiconductor embedded in their body! The quote about intelligence was probably added out of context by a hack reporter, to add a bit of controversy. Hacks love that. Quite why having a chip implanted is so different to wearing it on a wrist I've no idea. Being cynical, it was all probably a stunt to attract students at a time of year when they are finalising college choices. Uh, my leg says it's time to go. -- Bob Cousins, Software Engineer. Home page at http://www.lintilla.demon.co.uk/

Big deal, millions of people have chips in their body that communicates with external computers; they are called pacemakers! In addition, the pacemaker provides a real biological aid to the implantee. There's quite a bit computing power in a pacemaker or Implanted Defibulator, more than many would suspect. So this guy has not done anything new - he's got a long way to catch up as far as I'm concerned.

On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:57:30 -0500, Paul Penrose wrote: >Big deal, millions of people have chips in their body that communicates >with external computers; they are called pacemakers! In addition, the >pacemaker provides a real biological aid to the implantee. There's quite a >bit computing power in a pacemaker or Implanted Defibulator, more than >many would suspect. So this guy has not done anything new - he's got a >long way to catch up as far as I'm concerned. > Not to mention, the ID chips that they have been implanting in pets lately. Whats the big deal with what this guy has done anyway? Everone knows that a man by the name of Steve Austin was the first person with Cybernetic implants! <G>.

I saw this on National Tv a while back and has the same thoughts as the rest of you guys. Why? The chip they showed looked identical to the tag that they use on domestic pets, i.e. a small, cylindrical glass tube capable of being implanted under the skin. The clip showed the guy walking around the university and doors opening and a loudspeaker saying good morning to him. Basicaly the sort of thing virtually everyone on this list could do given the transponder hardware and interfacing details. Like someone said, it was purely a stunt to attract new students. Mike Rigby-Jones .....mrjonesKILLspam.....nortel.co.uk

>> "As I move about, the computer in the building can track >> me," Warwick, professor of cybernetics at the University of >> Reading. "Potentially, machines could be more intelligent than >> humans." > >Well, more intelligent than Prof. Warwick shouldn't be much of a >challenge. What an idiot. > >Bob "I am not a number" Blick I totaly agree with you bob. Sam "I am not a number too"

I am really suprised that none of the contributors to the recent " Electrolytic Capacitor fun [ot] " thread didn't have a chip ( or at least an Electrolytic ) implanted in their body. -- Peter Cousens email: EraseMEcousensspam_OUTTakeThisOuTher.forthnet.gr phone: + 3081 380534 snailmail: Folia, Agia Fotini, Karteros, Heraklion Crete, Greece. Is it true? that they have, on the new version of windows managed to increase the MTBF from 95 to 98 minutes (Thats why they called it 95)

On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:05:25 PDT, William Chops Westfield wrote: >This week's EETimes has an article on a small active tag you can WEAR >that permits your location within a building/campus to be tracked in 3d. >It's a sort of short-range GPS... > >BillW > Exactly! Why plant this chip under the skin when it could just as easily be *worn*. Call me paranoid, but the idea of some government forcefully implanting such devices in its citizens also comes to mind, and does *not* make me feel comfortable about this. Anonymity, to me, is more dear than doors that automatically open for me, even if I forget my tag at home in the morning and have to stop by the security office for a "loaner". Now, if you were implanting chips that would help a parapalegic walk you would get my attention.... Dan

> "In late August, cybernetics researcher Kevin > Warwick gave a startling demonstration of the > merger of man and machine by having a biochip > implanted in his arm. When he walks through his > office building, the lights turn on and a voice from > a wall speaker tells him how much e-mail he has > waiting." Great, it takes a PhD to miss the obvious... this is another proof :) IDIOT!!, a watch-type device could do the exact same frigging thing *without* harming the body. Geez... stupid things (not to mention USELESS) that people will do to get media coverage. > Reading. "Potentially, machines could be more intelligent than > humans." Well I don't doubt a PIC with 1K filled with $FF is smarter than him because that's a perfect example of a $00. Man... he should implant a new brain while at it. My $.02 :-)

In a message dated 9/23/98 3:28:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, hcooperspam_OUTES.COM writes: << now wait a minute!!! This has posibilties....hook into our body....and send data streams to each other!!! I've always wanted a serial port...actually, kept saying I wanted a 'cereal' port, perhaps a 'gerber' format for my kids. That way I could just download data and see whats wrong, and upload the proper data to them. This has me thinkin....hehe >> How about a reset buton for the wife and a volume control for the kids Dave Duley

On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, David W. Duley wrote: > In a message dated 9/23/98 3:28:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, KILLspamhcooperKILLspamES.COM > writes: > > << now wait a minute!!! This has posibilties....hook into our body....and > send data streams to each other!!! > > I've always wanted a serial port...actually, kept saying I wanted a > 'cereal' port, perhaps a 'gerber' format for my kids. That way I could > just download data and see whats wrong, and upload the proper data to > them. > > This has me thinkin....hehe > >> > How about a reset buton for the wife and a volume control for the kids > > Dave Duley You will be surprised. It is available, but called scopolamine, Largactil and all this stuff. It is very easy to supply a whole city and so get control over it. There are no limits. Imre

Hi, a barcode does it cheaper. This stuff all remembers me to the Apocalypse in the Bible: ("nobody may sell or buy until he/she wears the name of the beast or the number of its name. And this is a human number.") I apologize for the unexact translation. Exciting, huh?! Imre On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, John A. Craft wrote: > Why don't we implant baby's at birth, that would be great. Maybe the new > processor from Sintel, 80666. > :) > > Jc. > >

I have part of the front bumper of a Vauxhall Wyvern in my knee as a memento of my motorcycling (and being run into by cars) days (they lost the x-rays when they were transferring me between hospitals and missed some of the metal left there). . Alas, no embedded microchips, yet. Our local city council inject them into dogs for id purposes. . -----Original Message----- From: Peter Cousens <RemoveMEcousensTakeThisOuTher.forthnet.gr> >I am really suprised that none of the contributors to the recent >" Electrolytic Capacitor fun [ot] " thread didn't have a >chip ( or at least an Electrolytic ) implanted in their body.

Alien 1: "Fancy a game of hide the pellet?" Alien 2: "Good idea, I'll get the probes!" If people start implanting things ourselves, some life forms are going to be as puzzled as golfers finding multicoloured golf balls. ------------------------------------------------------ I'm astounded by people who want to know the Universe. It's hard enough to find your way around Chinatown. Woody Allen ------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Regulus Berdin wrote: > Dr. Imre Bartfai wrote: > > This stuff all remembers me to the Apocalypse in the Bible: ("nobody may > > sell or buy until he/she wears the name of the beast or the number of its > > name. And this is a human number.") I apologize for the unexact > > translation. > > A credit card (number)?! It is possible that Imre got the title of the book wrong. The description fits future e-commerce exactly unless a couple of miracles happen real quick. Probably refers to US social security numbers replacing account numbers, just to be sure of credit rating & history ;) It must have been a product pamphlet from a firm or other... Peter

On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Peter L. Peres wrote: > On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Regulus Berdin wrote: > > > Dr. Imre Bartfai wrote: > > > This stuff all remembers me to the Apocalypse in the Bible: ("nobody may > > > sell or buy until he/she wears the name of the beast or the number of its > > > name. And this is a human number.") I apologize for the unexact > > > translation. > > > > A credit card (number)?! > > It is possible that Imre got the title of the book wrong. The description > fits future e-commerce exactly unless a couple of miracles happen real > quick. Probably refers to US social security numbers replacing account > numbers, just to be sure of credit rating & history ;) It must have been a > product pamphlet from a firm or other... > > Peter > Strange humour, Peter. But not completely groundless ;((( Imre

>It is possible that Imre got the title of the book wrong. The description >fits future e-commerce exactly unless a couple of miracles happen real >quick. Probably refers to US social security numbers replacing account >numbers, just to be sure of credit rating & history ;) It must have been a >product pamphlet from a firm or other... Except that it's a world-wide system, rather Euro-centric it appears. Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Statistical Research, Inc. - Westfield, New Jersey USA ==================================================================

At 07:47 AM 9/26/98 +0800, you wrote: >Dr. Imre Bartfai wrote: >> This stuff all remembers me to the Apocalypse in the Bible: ("nobody may >> sell or buy until he/she wears the name of the beast or the number of its >> name. And this is a human number.") I apologize for the unexact >> translation. Actually, Doc, you did a pretty good job in the translation. You should have mentioned that this number is 666. OK, guys, how do you represent 666 in Roman and Greek number systems? Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Statistical Research, Inc. - Westfield, New Jersey USA ==================================================================

William Chops Westfield wrote: > > I've never understood the "I am not a number" camp, except on a very > visceral level. After all, my number is designed to be more unique > than my name, for example... > > BillW I agree. To take it further, the right combination of letters/numbers as a postal code could uniquely identify us and do away with physical snail mail addresses. As far as I can see, this would *enhance* privacy. --Matt

>> OK, guys, how do you represent 666 in Roman and Greek number systems? > >Bill Gates III, no ? I do know in Roman or Greek but in Decimal = 666 Hexadecimal = 29A Octal = 1232 ________ ________ ________ / / / / / /_____ /_______/ /_______/ / / \ / \ /________ / \ / \ ICQ# 10909825 \_ / \___________ spamBeGoneeriveraspamBeGoneumemphis.campus.mci.net

At 03:16 PM 9/28/98 -0500, you wrote: >>> OK, guys, how do you represent 666 in Roman and Greek number systems? Well, I'm not familiar with the Greek system, but in roman numerals it is(IIRC): DCLXVI Sean +--------------------------------+ | Sean Breheny | | Amateur Radio Callsign: KA3YXM | | Electrical Engineering Student | +--------------------------------+ Save lives, please look at http://www.all.org Personal page: http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/shb7 TakeThisOuTshb7EraseMEspam_OUTcornell.edu Phone(USA): (607) 253-0315 ICQ #: 3329174

> OK, guys, how do you represent 666 in Roman and Greek number systems? >From the book of Revelation in Greek: hexakosioi hexnkonta hex the 'n' is an eta Sorry, not sure how to get a greek font over the email. The Greeks wrote their numbers. I supposed it simplified writing checks. Thomas J Macauley, KD7BDW RemoveMEthomasTakeThisOuTadvancedcontrol.com (208) 362-5858

> Van: William Chops Westfield <EraseMEbillwCISCO.COM> > Aan: RemoveMEPICLISTEraseMEEraseMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Onderwerp: Re: Chips in our body(ABC news) > Datum: zaterdag 26 september 1998 6:10 > > I've never understood the "I am not a number" camp, except on a very > visceral level. After all, my number is designed to be more unique > than my name, for example... > > BillW A person is quite unique by name and place where he/she lives, thoug this could mean a lengthy description of the person (name, country, city,street, house-number). Numbers attached to persons are mostly used by Data-processing organisations to keep the amount of data-storage to a minimum. While this is valid for those systems (all above items could be changed while the links, provided by this unique person-number, stay valid without any change. very handy if the data-base is spread over more-than-one Data-base lists) those numbers are _not_ the people they represent. The biggest problem is not that numbers could identify a person, but that those numbers are used to "rename" a person. in other words : rob him of his name. Forcing him/her to be a non-unique entity (we've ALL got those numbers) and be adressed as such. No thanks. Let those numbers stay where they belong, in the data-base's (computer or otherwise). By the way, how many of those "unique" numbers are used in the different systems to identify you ? It's like you would have (fully) different names for any person you meet. And although _they_ choose their "unique" number _you_ are supposed to remember it .... Greetz, Rudy Wieser P.s. As you can read, I'm not against using ID-numbers. They are needed. I'm against being adressed by that number.

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Kunz <RemoveMEmtdesignspam_OUTKILLspamFAST.NET> writes: > At 07:47 AM 9/26/98 +0800, you wrote: >> Dr. Imre Bartfai wrote: >>> This stuff all remembers me to the Apocalypse in the Bible: >>> ("nobody may sell or buy until he/she wears the name of the beast >>> or the number of its name. And this is a human number.") I >>> apologize for the unexact translation. > Actually, Doc, you did a pretty good job in the translation. You > should have mentioned that this number is 666. > OK, guys, how do you represent 666 in Roman and Greek number > systems? Dunno about roman or greek, but I've always preferred `-rw-rw-rw-' myself. *steps into groanproof box* -Ansel -- I used to be convinced that MicroSquish shipped crap because they simply didn't give a flying fuck as long as the sheep kept buying their shit. Now, I'm convinced that they really do ship the best products they are capable of writing, and *that's* tragic. - John C. Randolph, about MS quality control.