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1995\01\25@125845 by Tim Braun

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I've been trying to use the "C" compiler from CCS on a real project,
and have been having some problems.  Is anyone out there using
"C" on the 16c57?

Tim Braun                             |
Continental Healthcare Systems Canada | Voice: 204-942-2992 ext 228
1900-155 Carlton St                   | FAX:   204-942-3001
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R3C 3H8    | Email: spam_OUTtimTakeThisOuTspamchs.mb.ca

1995\01\25@144926 by Andrew Warren

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Tim Braun (.....timKILLspamspam@spam@chs.mb.ca) wrote:

>I've been trying to use the "C" compiler from CCS on a real project,
>and have been having some problems.  Is anyone out there using
>"C" on the 16c57?

Tim:

I am... But I'm using MPC (a professional-quality tool suitable for real
development), not the CCS compiler (a toy).

MPC is available from Byte Craft Limited (519 888-6911).  It costs about
seven or eight times as much as the CCS compiler, but you get what you
pay for.

-Andy


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Andrew Warren - fastfwdspamKILLspamix.netcom.com
Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California

1995\01\26@142750 by Jason E Gorden

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On Wed, 25 Jan 1995, Tim Braun wrote:

> I've been trying to use the "C" compiler from CCS on a real project,
> and have been having some problems.  Is anyone out there using
> "C" on the 16c57?
>

I have both compilers from CCS (PCB and PCM) -- PCB is for the 12bit
instruction family and PCM for the 14bit family.  I have used PCM a lot
more (for 18c84 code) than PCB which I did use to generate code for the
16C57.  The compiler itself is a Borland C++ turbovision application, and
from a user interface/compiler standpoint it is quite buggy.  If you use
nested pre-processor directives like:

#ifdef DEBUG
 #asm
   movlw 1
 #endasm
#endif


It will go into an infinite loop and crash the DOS session.  There are
several things like this.  But if you remember not to do these (and save
your work often if you use the built-in editor) I have found the compiler
to make PIC programming easier and more fun.  You can use assembly
wherever you need to do something optimally, and you can write (IMO) more
readable code than with an assembler only.

Does anyone else use the compiler(s) from CCS.  I wish there was a
command line only version that you could run from a makefile.

Jason Gorden
.....gordenKILLspamspam.....jegnixa.hsc.missouri.edu

1995\01\31@160502 by Bret Berger

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This message was bounced last week, I'll try again.

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On Fri, 27 Jan 1995, Bret Berger wrote:

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1995\01\31@181913 by Tim Braun

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I've received an upgrade early this year, from their BBS.  The turn-around
on BBS questions seems to be about a day or two.  The voice-phone support is
spotty, because it's an after-hours operation.

The upgrade was very significant to me.  It reduced the number of un-recoverable
crashes and allowed a few "features" that I was looking for.  Specifically
you can now specify a filename on the command line and it will open that
file.  Wow.

I'd like to see:
a) internet access instead of long-distance BBS support.
b) case sensitivity!
c) command line operation, as Jason says.  I have yet to see _any_
   integrated environment that can beat a good shell, (my personal
   favourite favourite editor), and a make utility.
d) a lot of picky details on the user interface improved.

But since a) is there, I haven't been in contact with CCS.  I encourage
you to buy it, so that support for both of us is improved :).

Actually, for the price, I found it a good pic16c57 programming introduction.
I wouldn't have thought of some of the tricks that the compiler pulls to
implement code.

Tim Braun                             |
Continental Healthcare Systems Canada | Voice: 204-942-2992 ext 228
1900-155 Carlton St                   | FAX:   204-942-3001
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada R3C 3H8    | Email: spamBeGonetimspamBeGonespamchs.mb.ca

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