Post by thread:Buying a PICSTART

After reading messages about the PICSTART on this list over the last year or so, I think I will buy a PICSTART 16B-1. I am making the decision partly on the fact that a lot of people seem to be using this programmer and the fact that you get a lot of documentation, software, and a sample PIC to experiment with as well as a good programmer. Is the programmer board already assembled or do you have to do that? I know that the 16B-1 does not program all the PICS that the 16C does and visa versa, but what am I truly missing by getting the 16B-1 instead of the 16C? Messages dated back about 8 or 9 months ago say that the software used with the PICSTART runs fine on an old PC with monochrome display adapter. That is precisely what I plan to install this system on. Is today's software still text and DOS-friendly? Are there any 40-pin adapters for the 16B-1, yet? I want to thank many people on this list for sharing their ideas and knowledge. I will do the same as I actually began to program PIC's. Finally, is Digi-Key still a good place to order PIC's? Where is a good place to order the PICSTART? Have a prosperous New Year. Martin McCormick 405 744-7572 Stillwater, OK OSU Center for Computing and Information services Data Communications Group

Martin McCormick <spam_OUTmartinTakeThisOuTDC.CIS.OKSTATE.EDU> wrote: > After reading messages about the PICSTART on this list over the > last year or so, I think I will buy a PICSTART 16B-1. > .... > > Is the programmer board already assembled or do you have to do > that? The board is fully assembled. > I know that the 16B-1 does not program all the PICS that the 16C > does and visa versa, but what am I truly missing by getting the > 16B-1 instead of the 16C? The PICSTART-16B1 programs only the 16C5x series, the 16C61 & 16C71, and the 16C84. The PICSTART-16C programs all 16Cxx parts except the 16C5x series. > Messages dated back about 8 or 9 months ago say that the software > used with the PICSTART runs fine on an old PC with monochrome > display adapter. That is precisely what I plan to install this > system on. Is today's software still text and DOS-friendly? The last version I saw worked fine on an old 286. > Are there any 40-pin adapters for the 16B-1, yet? No, and there never will be, because the 16B1 doesn't rogram any 40-pin parts. > Finally, is Digi-Key still a good place to order PIC's? It's as good as it ever was, I suppose, but if you're ordering more than a tube at a time, you'd probably be better served by your local Microchip distributor. > Where is a good place to order the PICSTART? Try your local Microchip distributor. In Oklahoma, that'd be: Pioneer Standard 918 665-7840 918 665-1891 (Fax) -Andy Andrew Warren - .....fastfwdKILLspam@spam@ix.netcom.com Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California http://www.geopages.com/SiliconValley/2499

Brian Read <breadKILLspamMAXWELL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU> wrote: > Andy W. said: > The PICSTART-16B1 programs only the 16C5x series, the 16C61 & > 16C71, and the 16C84. The PICSTART-16C programs all 16Cxx parts > except the 16C5x series. > > .................................................................... > > I don't think that the PICSTART-16C does any of the '5X parts or > anything in the 'XX family except the '74 & '64 series parts with > MCLR_/VPP on pin one. I have both a 16B1 & a 16C for just that > reason. > > So if you want to do the 40 pin (or 28 pin versions) of > the '74 or '64 families, you need a PICSTART-16C. For > the rest it's the PICSTART-16B1. Brian: Thanks for posting that clarification. The 16B1 will program the 16C52, 16C54, 16C55, 16C56, 16C57, 16C58, 16C61, 16C70, 16C71, and 16C84 (and "A" versions of each of those). As far as I know, it'll also program the 16C62x parts. The 16C will program the 16C62, 16C63, 16C64, 16C65, 16C73, and 16C74 (and "A" versions of each). -Andy Andrew Warren - .....fastfwdKILLspam.....ix.netcom.com Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California http://www.geopages.com/SiliconValley/2499

------ =_NextPart_000_01BAD3F1.E50CA460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My PICSTART 16B1 with 1.7 firmware won't program the 16C622 I just bought. Waiting to hear what I need to do... ---------- From: Andrew Warren[SMTP:EraseMEfastfwdspam_OUTTakeThisOuTPOPD.IX.NETCOM.COM] Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 1995 6:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list PICLIST Subject: Re: Buying a PICSTART Brian Read <breadspam_OUTMAXWELL.EE.WASHINGTON.EDU> wrote: {Quote hidden}> Andy W. said: > The PICSTART-16B1 programs only the 16C5x series, the 16C61 & > 16C71, and the 16C84. The PICSTART-16C programs all 16Cxx parts > except the 16C5x series. > > .................................................................... > > I don't think that the PICSTART-16C does any of the '5X parts or > anything in the 'XX family except the '74 & '64 series parts with > MCLR_/VPP on pin one. I have both a 16B1 & a 16C for just that > reason. > > So if you want to do the 40 pin (or 28 pin versions) of > the '74 or '64 families, you need a PICSTART-16C. For > the rest it's the PICSTART-16B1. Brian: Thanks for posting that clarification. The 16B1 will program the 16C52, 16C54, 16C55, 16C56, 16C57, 16C58, 16C61, 16C70, 16C71, and 16C84 (and "A" versions of each of those). As far as I know, it'll also program the 16C62x parts. The 16C will program the 16C62, 16C63, 16C64, 16C65, 16C73, and 16C74 (and "A" versions of each). -Andy Andrew Warren - @spam@fastfwdKILLspamix.netcom.com Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California http://www.geopages.com/SiliconValley/2499 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAD3F1.E50CA460 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IjsIAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG AEABAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAFgAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABwaWMgbWljcm9jb250cm9sbGVyIGRpc2N1c3Npb24gbGlzdABTTVRQAFBJQ0xJU1RA TUlUVk1BLk1JVC5FRFUAHgACMAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAAMwAQAAABcAAABQSUNMSVNUQE1J VFZNQS5NSVQuRURVAAADABUMAQAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAmAAAAJ3BpYyBtaWNyb2NvbnRy b2xsZXIgZGlzY3Vzc2lvbiBsaXN0JwAAAAIBCzABAAAAHAAAAFNNVFA6UElDTElTVEBNSVRWTUEu TUlULkVEVQADAAA5AAAAAAsAQDoBAAAAAgH2DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAA98+AQiABwAYAAAASVBNLk1p Y3Jvc29mdCBNYWlsLk5vdGUAMQgBBIABABYAAABSRTogQnV5aW5nIGEgUElDU1RBUlQAagYBBYAD AA4AAADLBwwAGwAAABkAOQADAE4BASCAAwAOAAAAywcMABsAAAAZAA8AAwAkAQEJgAEAIQAAAEM1 OENFMTlBRTQzRkNGMTE5NDVBNDQ0NTUzNTQwMDAwAAUHAQOQBgAwBgAAEgAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAm AAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAQAA5AKAuGvI01LoBHgBwAAEAAAAWAAAAUkU6IEJ1eWluZyBh IFBJQ1NUQVJUAAAAAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAbrUNPIamuGMxj/kEc+UWkRFU1QAAAAAHgAeDAEAAAAF AAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAB8MAQAAABAAAABzdGV2ZWNAcmFpbi5vcmcAAwAGEJD7u6IDAAcQJwQAAB4A CBABAAAAZQAAAE1ZUElDU1RBUlQxNkIxV0lUSDE3RklSTVdBUkVXT05UUFJPR1JBTVRIRTE2QzYy MklKVVNUQk9VR0hUV0FJVElOR1RPSEVBUldIQVRJTkVFRFRPRE8tLS0tLS0tLS0tRlJPTToAAAAA AgEJEAEAAAC7BAAAtwQAAOIIAABMWkZ1HPxffv8ACgEPAhUCqAXrAoMAUALyCQIAY2gKwHNldDI3 BgAGwwKDMgPFAgBwckJxEeJzdGVtAoMzdwLkBxMCgH0KgAjPCdk78RYPMjU1AoAKgQ2xC2Dgbmcx MDMUUAsKFFENC/JjAEAF0HkgUEkAQ1NUQVJUIDFMNkIa0APwdGgboC6ANyBmaXJtdwrAtmUb8AIg JwVAE1BvCcA4YW0gHCAdABuwQzZCMhHgSSBqdRPAIEEG4HVnaHQuCoVXlQtwdAuAZx3wbyAeEF0K wXcRgAVAHrBuCeBkcSByZG8uIhAKhQqLbBBpMTgwAtFpLTH8NDQN8AzQJCMLWRuwCqDrA2AT0GMF QC0mRwqHJPvrDDAlxkYDYTonTiXGDIK5FLBuZBYQB+AgAHIWEABuW1NNVFA6ZgJhE8Bmd2RAUE8A UEQuSVguTkWgVENPTS4tYV0m718n/QZgAjApLyo7VApQc8BkYXksIEQFkBPgImIEkCAyNjJwMTlg OTUgNjozIBsQTTMt7yf9VG8wLyo7TXXebCAwC1AdABYQYwUgCJDjAjAEIG9mICOAHvEbIRxMSRtQ NC8u/nViaicmATZPKjtSZTzAQnU6eSBCYRsXIk8jUzM2dyTHGkUlxkIHIQOgPqBhGSGgPGIWEENw QE1BAFhXRUxMLkVFAC5XQVNISU5HiFRPTkSARFU+G/A9JdI6P/xFoCsBGwBXLnQgcwtwZEYWRaBI clQ/HhEbJiQQG8IdhTlBbmzzGwAeBTV4R5AGcQeQMnCbHgYa0CZH+x5BNzEycGcAcCGhHhQ4NEeA SL5D70nYB0ADIB5BeEtACrE5MHlH+2V4MrAFMUrOH4Y+/0aXIhFU71X/Vw9X/FO/HrDvIfAdQhwg C4BrHfEhIR4Cf08bIfAHkQBwGwA5YR4CJ+w1WFEEOVByRpdcoVqStyBgC4BdBFhdcCwwbQMQYxsA UjknNzRMcF1ANl9hIEtkXYUcAkaXTToAUuBfL1ZQUEphHXBfMd0CIGVHgB6wEYB2HQAG4P8cIT9Q G7NhQGViT8ACEAXA7x7TWvJGl0PBcwIgWP8GAPMgkAaQIHkIYBvwAHBSgS8h0h3zJEBkAygFsTI4 l2QDZOARoGkCIHMpOVH/RpdgxgWxYWJf40uTaZIhc/c/WE+SR4BGXfkeAhYQHvH9HBAnBCBbTRvQ Ij1C80Ydm0jAAHBrBCBmUnBvE8CbIEMhEmMLYAaBaWMhID9sISI9SMIbtVCBHY01MuszQUsRNHpk NXpkMzJLEXI3emQ4LAqFTCN6Yzc+MH1kTaVOU2sgTdIiQX4ia9c5UiDAEXBc1HXwZXopH4ZBdYEK wSxAHqFr+G5vdzJwcaFQgQdAZ+D9HX8yUPV3jx4jeP8eNHpjrDYzh9R6xDZ7NDeIMf9+ZWERfwIK hX9fgGGBJwqFfi1HIj/8KwsmMF/RLFRplHguIXB0BaBtLpBRvQqFRixBcEIc0SGgRRkQXwuACeAF EBkQMnBWOaFhvTJwQwdABpAFsAMAYQqFgR9gdHA6Ly93lMDwLmdlbwqwlQBTkJBRTC9TblEFoG5W UHFl8HkvMjQzcD/8QG9Bfxcl1QqFFTEAmxAAAwAQEAAAAAADABEQAAAAAEAABzCgJXPZNNS6AUAA CDCgJXPZNNS6AR4APQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAAk9M= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAD3F1.E50CA460--