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Another excellent document I found some time ago is also very helpful. I've uploaded it to my server: http://pc-tek.hypermart.net/begin.rtf Hope this helps, Tim Hamel In a message dated 1/4/00 2:48:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, spam_OUTdcreaganTakeThisOuTSCHOLARS.BELLEVUE.EDU writes: > You are embarking on a really fun and interesting journey. I recommend you > get Easy Pic 'N by Benson from > http://www.sq-1.com The files you have now, plus a programmer and a breadboard > will get you going. > > There are a lot of compilers and tools you can use, but I am one of the > people who believes you should learn assembler first. Even if you use a high > level language, you have to know the low level hardware fairly intimately for {Quote hidden}> some tasks and assembler gets you that knowledge. > > Since assembler is fairly easy to learn with the PIC ( a limited number of > instructions ) you can buzz through the Easy Pic 'N book in a couple of > evenings. > > > Good luck, > > Dan

On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 06:20:29PM -0500, Tim Hamel wrote: > Another excellent document I found some time ago is also very helpful. I've > uploaded it to my server: > http://pc-tek.hypermart.net/begin.rtf What's RTF? Can you do HTML? It's more portable. -- James Cameron .....quozlKILLspam@spam@us.netrek.org http://quozl.us.netrek.org/

I am probably a couple of weeks ahead of you in the learning curve and I have found the Easy PIC'n book as well as Myke Predko's Programming and customizing the PIC microcontroller both great books to read through. On the hardware side I went with the PIC Start Plus programmer because after polling this group it was the favorite (and I did not want to mess around with incompatability issues). There are some great sites out there for learning (I tryed not to have to buy books) ;however, I ended up buying the books and it was a good investment. With Regards, Steven Rightnar {Original Message removed}

> On the > hardware side I went with the PIC Start Plus programmer because after > polling this group it was the favorite (and I did not want to mess around > with incompatability issues). Hi, all. I recently purchased the YAP programmer from Wirz Electronics and have been (slowly) figuring out that I bought this stuff in reverse order rather than getting the books and learning the code first...but that's another story. I plan on purchasing the Easy Pic'n Book very soon and was wondering if the programmer such as the PIC Start Plus would have been a better choice as far as compatibility and relevance to the book...or are most programmers for the 16F84 basically the same? TIA Aaron

Follow the directions that (hopefully) came with the YAP and you should be OK. I prefer the PicStart Plus, but I started with a programmer from Peter Anderson's site (The Morgan Programmer I believe it is called) - which was also good. The Easy Pic 'N book does have instructions for the PicStart Plus, but if I remember right, I went through all of the lessons with Peter's Morgan Programmer. Dan > > On the > > hardware side I went with the PIC Start Plus programmer because after > > polling this group it was the favorite (and I did not want to mess around > > with incompatability issues). > > Hi, all. I recently purchased the YAP programmer from Wirz Electronics and > have been (slowly) figuring out that I bought this stuff in reverse order > rather than getting the books and learning the code first...but that's > another story. I plan on purchasing the Easy Pic'n Book very soon and was > wondering if the programmer such as the PIC Start Plus would have been a > better choice as far as compatibility and relevance to the book...or are most > programmers for the 16F84 basically the same? > TIA > > Aaron

Hi Ricardo, I'm also a newbie to PICs ... started with the PICStart+ for the programmer and Easy PIC'n, PIC'n up the Pace, and Myke Predko's book. It's worked for me ... along with help from this list. Good luck, - Nick - {Quote hidden}> "Ricardo F. Chung" wrote: > > Would you be able to recommend a site (or sites) on the net where I > can download an adequate PIC Assembly Beginners > Tutorial/Documentation? > > I would appreciate very much any help you could offer. > > Thanks and Regards, > Ricardo F. Chung > Kingston, Jamaica

Hi All I too am real new to this scene.......I downloaded this "Understanding & Programming the PIC16C84 - A Beginners Tutorial" by Jim Brown. > Another excellent document I found some time ago is also very helpful. I've > uploaded it to my server: > > http://pc-tek.hypermart.net/begin.rtf > My problem is finding the Microchip Application Notes that Jim refers to. The only application notes I could find related to specific applications of 16F84/16C84 (eg control of servo motor etc) The nearest I could find were these links .........www.microchip.com/Download/Lit/Specs/30189d.pdf http://www.microchip.com/Download/Lit/PICmicro/16F8X/30430c.pdf but the figure quotes that Jim uses (eg [PIC figure 4-2]) dont match up at all. It may seem like overkill but I was hoping to follow this very good tutorial to the letter (ie look at every reference he makes) but I just cant seem to find the "PIC'84 data sheet" document he is referring to. If anyone has a link or the data sheet itself I would really appreciate seeing it. Thanks for any help *-Dave

Dave, I think this is the datasheet here: http://www.microchip.com/Download/Lit/PICmicro/16F8X/30430c.pdf There are two Fig. 4-2's, one is the bird's eye view, and the other is a close-up. He does do a good job of explaining things, so referring to the figures (and pages) isn't absolutely necessary. Regards, Tim Hamel In a message dated 1/5/00 3:28:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, .....DRCAndersonKILLspam.....XTRA.CO.NZ writes: {Quote hidden}> My problem is finding the Microchip Application Notes that Jim refers > to. The only application notes I could find related to specific > applications of 16F84/16C84 (eg control of servo motor etc) > > The nearest I could find were these links > .........www.microchip.com/Download/Lit/Specs/30189d.pdf > http://www.microchip.com/Download/Lit/PICmicro/16F8X/30430c.pdf > > but the figure quotes that Jim uses (eg [PIC figure 4-2]) dont match > up at all. > > It may seem like overkill but I was hoping to follow this very good > tutorial to the letter (ie look at every reference he makes) but I > just cant seem to find the "PIC'84 data sheet" document he is > referring to. > If anyone has a link or the data sheet itself I would really > appreciate seeing it. > > Thanks for any help > *-Dave >

Take a look at the Jal assignments I made for the kids at my electronics group. Quite simple, but a good point to start. http:www.xs4all.nl/~wf/wouter/pic/djo/e_index.html http:http://www.xs4all.nl/~wf/wouter/pic/jal Wouter ---------- From: Ricardo F. Chung <EraseMErfchungspam_OUTTakeThisOuTANNGEL.COM.JM> To: PICLISTspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Beginners Help Needed Date: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 16:36 Hello, I am new to EPROM microprocessor programming and would like to learn how to program the PIC16C84 chip. I have downloaded the relevant information from the Microchip.com site (MPASM, MPLINK, MPLAB and the PIC16C84 pdf) so I assume I have all the software tools I will need. Will I need any other software tools? My problem is that I need to learn the programming aspect from scratch. I need to find an PIC Assembly Beginners Tutorial/Documentation that will, in detail, explain to me step by step the registers, the syntax and the structure of a PIC program with examples. I am an experienced programmer (BASIC, Pascal, C, LISP, PROLOG, Foxpro) but PIC assembly is totally new to me. Would you be able to recommend a site (or sites) on the net where I can download an adequate PIC Assembly Beginners Tutorial/Documentation? I would appreciate very much any help you could offer. Thanks and Regards, Ricardo F. Chung Kingston, Jamaica