Searching \ for 'A plea for focus. . .' in subject line. ()
Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure! Help us get a faster server
FAQ page: www.piclist.com/techref/index.htm?key=plea+focus
Search entire site for: 'A plea for focus. . .'.

Truncated match.
PICList Thread
'A plea for focus. . .'
1999\09\24@125059 by Randy Brumbaugh

flavicon
face
I just discovered and joined this list and am amazed at the terribly low
signal-to-noise ratio.  Could we keep the discussion to PIC topics please?
I had over 50 messages in my inbox this morning, and a prolific PIC
discussion would be very welcome.  But most were discussing magnetic
fields, perpetual motion machines, urban legends, house wiring practice US
vs. UK -- so now I delete most of the messages without reading.

The folks on USEnet figured this out a while ago -- if it isn't relevant,
don't read it, and PLEASE don't respond.  And if you MUST respond (perhaps
your ego tells you that your insight is especially keen and unique, which
it is not), do it in personal email, not to the list.

So please:
1.  Only send to the list things related to PIC processors, support tools
and projects.  Ignore anything not related.

2.  Try to be concise -- remember people have to read it, and most of us
are busy.  Put something descriptive on the subject line. If you are
sending a follow-up in a thread, include the original subject so people can
easily see if it is a thread of interest.

3.  Thanks for all those who have sent relevant and useful PIC info -- it
makes the list worth reading.

1999\09\24@125824 by Andy Kunz

flavicon
face
At 09:40 AM 9/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I just discovered and joined this list and am amazed at the terribly low
>signal-to-noise ratio.  Could we keep the discussion to PIC topics please?

We have this discussion come up from time to time, and you know what?
People like the sorta-off-topic stuff.  It won't go away, and where else
can you get such a good variety of people answering all kinds of questions?
Usenet stinks - it doesn't come in your e-mail!

>3.  Thanks for all those who have sent relevant and useful PIC info -- it
>makes the list worth reading.

Very often these off-topic threads come around to solve problems that I
have in other projects.  I for one want to keep them.

If you want a list that sticks very much to PIC-related info, join the
Parallax list.  http://www.parallaxinc.com

Oh, BTW, it's mostly newbies so don't expect too much help.

Andy


==================================================================
Eternity is only a heartbeat away - are you ready?  Ask me how!
------------------------------------------------------------------
spam_OUTandyTakeThisOuTspamrc-hydros.com      http://www.rc-hydros.com     - Race Boats
.....andyKILLspamspam@spam@montanadesign.com  http://www.montanadesign.com - Electronics
==================================================================

1999\09\24@130120 by Wagner Lipnharski

picon face
Randy Brumbaugh wrote:
[snip]
> So please:
> 1.  Only send to the list things related to PIC processors, support
> tools and projects.  Ignore anything not related.

PIC? what is a PIC?

> I just discovered and joined this list and am amazed ...

Ahhh, this explain.  By the way, you looks to be a well informed person,
perhaps you can help us... we are looking for a strong magnetic shield
to produce a moto generator to feed a microcontroller... can you help
us?
:)

1999\09\24@130540 by Andy Kunz

flavicon
face
Wagner, you are EVIL!!!

ROFL!

Andy


At 12:44 PM 9/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
{Quote hidden}

==================================================================
Eternity is only a heartbeat away - are you ready?  Ask me how!
------------------------------------------------------------------
andyspamKILLspamrc-hydros.com      http://www.rc-hydros.com     - Race Boats
.....andyKILLspamspam.....montanadesign.com  http://www.montanadesign.com - Electronics
==================================================================

1999\09\24@134641 by Bob Drzyzgula

flavicon
face
> I just discovered and joined this list and am amazed at the terribly low
> signal-to-noise ratio.

Actually, the signal-to-noise *ratio* on PICLIST is, on an average basis,
quite favorable. The thing is, however, that the *absolute* noise level is
quite high. There just doesn't happen to *be* any signal at the moment, so
all you are seeing is the noise. Like, for example, right now there appears
to be a metadiscussion about the S/N ratio on PICLIST, which IMHO is
contributing to the noise level, not the signal. Perhaps you would be
interested in contributing to the signal?

--Bob

1999\09\24@135039 by Harrison Cooper

flavicon
face
And...amazing enough, this thread ought to create additional noise. I
replied private to him....

BUT...nice thing is....hardly any spam these days...

*knocking on wood*

1999\09\24@140440 by Dave VanHorn

flavicon
face
> > I just discovered and joined this list and am amazed at the terribly low
> > signal-to-noise ratio.

You may apply for a refund by following the procedure on page 27 of the
PICLIST handbook.

> Actually, the signal-to-noise *ratio* on PICLIST is, on an average basis,
> quite favorable. The thing is, however, that the *absolute* noise level is
> quite high. There just doesn't happen to *be* any signal at the moment, so
> all you are seeing is the noise. Like, for example, right now there
appears
> to be a metadiscussion about the S/N ratio on PICLIST, which IMHO is
> contributing to the noise level, not the signal. Perhaps you would be
> interested in contributing to the signal?


Bravo Bob!
The absolute signal level gets pretty high too!

1999\09\24@140639 by eplus1

flavicon
face
Oh! GOD! ROTLF! My boss is ready to make me "defecate pukelist" 'cause he
thinks its all jokes!

James Newton, webmaster http://get.to/techref
(hint: you can add your own private info to the techref)
EraseMEjamesnewtonspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTgeocities.com
1-619-652-0593 phone



{Original Message removed}

1999\09\24@142107 by Dan Larson

flavicon
face
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:04:33 -0700, James Newton wrote:

>Oh! GOD! ROTLF!
         ^^^^^   Rolling On The Laughing Floor?!?

Appearently your floor thinks its all hilarious too!

>:)

1999\09\24@142930 by Dave VanHorn

flavicon
face
> >Oh! GOD! ROTLF!
>           ^^^^^   Rolling On The Laughing Floor?!?

Rolling On the Lithuanian Fairies??
Lutheran Farmers??
Lithuim Flouride?

1999\09\24@143723 by Mark Willis

flavicon
face
Harrison Cooper wrote:
>
> And...amazing enough, this thread ought to create additional noise. I
> replied private to him....
>
> BUT...nice thing is....hardly any spam these days...
>
> *knocking on wood*

 With us Admins watching like hawks, it's not a good idea to spam the
list - having "only members can post to the list" helps a lot (Spammers
are usually too dumb to figure out how to join lists to spam 'em.)  I
like it this way, too.

 Mark

1999\09\24@144738 by Andy Kunz

flavicon
face
>Lithuim Flouride?

I think you meant Lithium, but that would have been LiF

Andy

==================================================================
Eternity is only a heartbeat away - are you ready?  Ask me how!
------------------------------------------------------------------
andyspamspam_OUTrc-hydros.com      http://www.rc-hydros.com     - Race Boats
@spam@andyKILLspamspammontanadesign.com  http://www.montanadesign.com - Electronics
==================================================================

1999\09\24@144741 by Andy Kunz

flavicon
face
At 11:36 AM 9/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Harrison Cooper wrote:
>>
>> And...amazing enough, this thread ought to create additional noise. I
>> replied private to him....
>>
>> BUT...nice thing is....hardly any spam these days...
>>
>> *knocking on wood*
>
>  With us Admins watching like hawks, it's not a good idea to spam the
>list - having "only members can post to the list" helps a lot (Spammers
>are usually too dumb to figure out how to join lists to spam 'em.)  I
>like it this way, too.

And the only way they can get back off is to buy a T-Shirt!

Andy

==================================================================
Eternity is only a heartbeat away - are you ready?  Ask me how!
------------------------------------------------------------------
KILLspamandyKILLspamspamrc-hydros.com      http://www.rc-hydros.com     - Race Boats
RemoveMEandyTakeThisOuTspammontanadesign.com  http://www.montanadesign.com - Electronics
==================================================================

1999\09\24@150224 by Mark Willis

flavicon
face
Andy Kunz wrote:
>
> At 11:36 AM 9/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
> > <snipped>
> >  With us Admins watching like hawks, it's not a good idea to spam the
> >list - having "only members can post to the list" helps a lot (Spammers
> >are usually too dumb to figure out how to join lists to spam 'em.)  I
> >like it this way, too.
>
> And the only way they can get back off is to buy a T-Shirt!

 ... With a stolen credit card, usually, is the way THEY pay for
things...

> Andy

 Mark

1999\09\24@150648 by Stevens, Kurt

flavicon
face
OH! Now that is a good idea! Sort of an extortion type list.

> And the only way they can get back off is to buy a T-Shirt!
>
> I must admit, I like what I have been reading in the OT stuff,
> particularly the magnetic thread.

1999\09\24@152807 by Andy Kunz

flavicon
face
At 03:01 PM 9/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
>OH! Now that is a good idea! Sort of an extortion type list.
>
>> And the only way they can get back off is to buy a T-Shirt!


Hmmm, maybe....

Actually, if it's extortion, they probably already have one out there
already.  Send a letter to spamBeGonegollygapspamBeGonespamyahoo.com and see what lists you end up on!

Andy

==================================================================
Eternity is only a heartbeat away - are you ready?  Ask me how!
------------------------------------------------------------------
TakeThisOuTandyEraseMEspamspam_OUTrc-hydros.com      http://www.rc-hydros.com     - Race Boats
RemoveMEandyspamTakeThisOuTmontanadesign.com  http://www.montanadesign.com - Electronics
==================================================================

1999\09\24@153604 by Anne Ogborn

flavicon
face
..bbssssszzzzzzzzzzzrrrrrrrrtttttttttt......scratch.hissssssssssssssssss.
.. 16F877 ........ scccrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...... TMR0
.............hssssssst.....
oscillator .....  bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ....

Sorry, can't hear you over the noise.

1999\09\24@154500 by Stevens, Kurt

flavicon
face
You first!


> Actually, if it's extortion, they probably already have one out there
> already.  Send a letter to gollygapEraseMEspam.....yahoo.com and see what lists you end
> up on!
>
>

1999\09\24@161622 by hmiller

picon face
Poor Randy got PICked to pieces.

Harley

1999\09\25@224634 by Brian Kraut

picon face
The list is mostly PIC related a lot of the time, but drifts off now and then.
I personally would get pretty bored reading just dry PIC messages.

Now, the religion and politics rants can get annoying, but I welcome other
technical topics from other engineers.

Randy Brumbaugh wrote:

{Quote hidden}

1999\09\26@082500 by gdaniel
flavicon
face
Wagner,
By amazing coincidence I have three left of (complete!)  mag shield + moto
generator as you refer to in your post to Randy Bee low.
Please reply off list  re purchasing details.
regards,
Graham Daniel.

P.S.
I feel strong sympathy for you over the undeserved criticism of your
educational background.   Anyone without (at a minimum) a doctorate and at
least 20 years industry experience in perpectual motion machine design and
instalation should not be so impudent as to criticise your superb writings.
(Graham D.)

Wagner Lipnharski wrote:

{Quote hidden}

(yes, we are pulling your tail !)

1999\09\26@082707 by gdaniel

flavicon
face
subscribble PICkle
subscribble perpictual emoliant machine
subscribble [OT]


subscribble newbie moderator master battlers


Randy Brumbaugh wrote:

> I just discovered and joined this list and am amazed at the terribly low
> signal-to-noise ratio.  Could we keep the discussion to PIC topics please?
> I had over 50 messages in my inbox this morning, and a prolific PIC
> discussion would be very welcome.  But most were discussing magnetic
> fields, perpetual motion machines, urban legends, house wiring practice US
> vs. UK -- so now I delete most of the messages without reading.

1999\09\26@160633 by l.allen

picon face
Andy wrote...
>
> Very often these off-topic threads come around to solve problems that I
> have in other projects.  I for one want to keep them.
>
Exactly!!!

A REALLY successful product will have some advantage over a
competitor, technical understanding of topics not strictly PIC can be
of enormous help. Someone else may contribute the serendipity you
need.

If you want a really PIC only site .. try Microchips forum (zzzzz
yawn), it would probably suit you.


_____________________________

Lance Allen
Technical Officer
Uni of Auckland
Psych Dept
New Zealand
_____________________________

1999\09\26@183831 by Dennis Plunkett

flavicon
face
At 14:45 24/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>At 11:36 AM 9/24/99 -0700, you wrote:
>>Harrison Cooper wrote:
>>>
>>> And...amazing enough, this thread ought to create additional noise. I
>>> replied private to him....
>>>
>>> BUT...nice thing is....hardly any spam these days...
>>>
>>> *knocking on wood*
>>
>>  With us Admins watching like hawks, it's not a good idea to spam the
>>list - having "only members can post to the list" helps a lot (Spammers
>>are usually too dumb to figure out how to join lists to spam 'em.)  I
>>like it this way, too.
>
>And the only way they can get back off is to buy a T-Shirt!
>
>Andy
>

Hey Andy, watch it or that dude whom complained about Tony and his
Picknpoke adds will get you. On that where is Tony?

Dennis


>==================================================================
> Eternity is only a heartbeat away - are you ready?  Ask me how!
>------------------------------------------------------------------
>EraseMEandyspamrc-hydros.com      http://www.rc-hydros.com     - Race Boats
>RemoveMEandyEraseMEspamEraseMEmontanadesign.com  http://www.montanadesign.com - Electronics
>==================================================================
>
>

1999\09\26@225510 by Andy Kunz

flavicon
face
>Hey Andy, watch it or that dude whom complained about Tony and his
>Picknpoke adds will get you. On that where is Tony?
>

He's around - I got a message from him about what size T-shirt to order the
other day.

For you non-American types:  An XL shirt is the right thing for a 100cm chest.

Andy

==================================================================
Andy Kunz               Life is what we do to prepare for Eternity
------------------------------------------------------------------
RemoveMEandyspam_OUTspamKILLspamrc-hydros.com      http://www.rc-hydros.com     - Race Boats
RemoveMEandyTakeThisOuTspamspammontanadesign.com  http://www.montanadesign.com - Electronics
==================================================================

1999\09\26@232626 by Dennis Plunkett

flavicon
face
At 22:34 26/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>Hey Andy, watch it or that dude whom complained about Tony and his
>>Picknpoke adds will get you. On that where is Tony?
>>
>
>He's around - I got a message from him about what size T-shirt to order the
>other day.
>
>For you non-American types:  An XL shirt is the right thing for a 100cm
chest.
>

So would XXL be 105 or 110? I would like to wear anuthing that said "Eat my
PIC shit" that was too tight
Oh yes, I DON'T HAVE THE TUMMY to match

Dennis


{Quote hidden}

1999\09\27@111425 by Andy Kunz

flavicon
face
>So would XXL be 105 or 110? I would like to wear anuthing that said "Eat my
>PIC xxxx" that was too tight
>Oh yes, I DON'T HAVE THE TUMMY to match

Beats me.  I wear an XXL and have a 45" chest.

But I got the tummy :-(

Hey, you gotta do something to keep a pregant wife happy!  I just tried to
emulate her <G>

Andy

==================================================================
Eternity is only a heartbeat away - are you ready?  Ask me how!
------------------------------------------------------------------
andySTOPspamspamspam_OUTrc-hydros.com      http://www.rc-hydros.com     - Race Boats
spamBeGoneandySTOPspamspamEraseMEmontanadesign.com  http://www.montanadesign.com - Electronics
==================================================================

1999\09\27@205353 by Richard Graziano

flavicon
face
Is setting up a filter a suitable option for you?
Richard

Brian Kraut wrote:

{Quote hidden}

More... (looser matching)
- Last day of these posts
- In 1999 , 2000 only
- Today
- New search...