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1999\08\17@164457 by l.allen

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Just a question on the 16f877
Is this "normal" to take such a bloody long time from first
documentation to actual delivery of a new microcontroller?
We have our ICD but the stock 16f877's are still weeks if not months
away. I was reading the data sheet on this sucker last year!!!!!!

Does this also mean the other future products are years away?

I have been a strong supporter of PIC controllers but my patience is
wearing thin. The AVRs are starting to look attractive.

Comments please.....

Note: this is not a flame fest... just a serious evaluation of  my
development programme.
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Lance Allen
Technical Officer
Uni of Auckland
Psych Dept
New Zealand
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1999\08\17@170745 by William M. Smithers

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On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Lance Allen wrote:

> Just a question on the 16f877
> Is this "normal" to take such a bloody long time from first
> documentation to actual delivery of a new microcontroller?
> We have our ICD but the stock 16f877's are still weeks if not months
> away. I was reading the data sheet on this sucker last year!!!!!!

I just got a batch last week, and have been trying them
out.  It was worth the wait - these chips are giving
me a serious woody.  If only they'd had a 12 bit instead
of 10 bit A/D, I'd never rent a porno video again! 8*)

-Will

1999\08\17@171408 by Adam Davis

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"Sir, this is for your own good.
Please step away from the PIC..."

"William M. Smithers" wrote:
>
> I just got a batch last week, and have been trying them
> out.  It was worth the wait - these chips are giving
> me a serious woody.  If only they'd had a 12 bit instead
> of 10 bit A/D, I'd never rent a porno video again! 8*)
>
> -Will

99 bugs in my hex file,
99 bugs to fix.
Fix one bug
Asemble again -
101 bugs in my hex file...

1999\08\17@173659 by Matt Bonner

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Adam Davis wrote:
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> 99 bugs in my hex file,
> 99 bugs to fix.
> Fix one bug
> Asemble again -
> 101 bugs in my hex file...

I ported my MPC-compiled 16c74A project over to the the 16c877 - I only
had to change 2 #defines and add 2 brackets: SaveContext to
SaveContext();

Worked second time... but that first compile gave me too many errors to
count.  And no hardware changes since I can't use the ADC anyway,
although 10 bits is *halfway* there.

--Matt

1999\08\17@174123 by Andy Kunz

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>Worked second time... but that first compile gave me too many errors to
>count.  And no hardware changes since I can't use the ADC anyway,
>although 10 bits is *halfway* there.

Yeah, but how many 11-bit ADCs are out there?

Andy

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1999\08\17@184025 by Matt Bonner

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Andy Kunz wrote:
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> >Worked second time... but that first compile gave me too many errors to
> >count.  And no hardware changes since I can't use the ADC anyway,
> >although 10 bits is *halfway* there.
>
> Yeah, but how many 11-bit ADCs are out there?

Ha!  I guess I should have said 2^(halfway there).  Or something like
that.

Actually, most 16-bit ADCs make reasonable 11-bit ADCs.  Has anyone ever
gotten true 16 bit noise-free counts out of a 16 bit converter?  No
averaging allowed.

--Matt

1999\08\18@124452 by Bob Drzyzgula

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On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 05:32:36PM -0400, Andy Kunz wrote:
> >Worked second time... but that first compile gave me too many errors to
> >count.  And no hardware changes since I can't use the ADC anyway,
> >although 10 bits is *halfway* there.
>
> Yeah, but how many 11-bit ADCs are out there?
>
> Andy

Andy,

How 'bout http://products.analog.com/products/info.asp?product=AD7861 ?

--Bob

:-), JIC.

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