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'20 MHz PIC emulators out there yet?'
1999\01\05@021038 by evan

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A while ago Microchip was having trouble delivering the bondout version of
their 20 MHz PICs for use in emulators, anyone know if this has been
rectified?  What are the 20 MHz PIC emulator options currently available?

-Ed V.
Agile Controls

1999\01\05@092405 by Darrel Johansen

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Ed VanderPloeg wrote:
>
> A while ago Microchip was having trouble delivering the bondout version of
> their 20 MHz PICs for use in emulators, anyone know if this has been
> rectified?  What are the 20 MHz PIC emulator options currently available?
>
Ed,

It wasn't that Microchip had trouble delivering 20 Mhz bondouts, it was
the fact that the original bondout for the mid-range PIC's (14-bit
core) was not designed to run at 20 Mhz.

A new emulator chip was designed last year and is now used in the new
MPLAB-ICE emulator.  All probes for that emulator will run at the
full speed of every PIC emulated.  Some third parties are using this
new bond out chip (named 16C03 --previous emulator chip for the mid-range
was 16C02) and should be announcing full-speed emulation soon,
if not already.

Another advantage of the 16C03 is that it has lots of pins.  Some of the
pins connect to the internal address/data bus of the SFR and internal
RAM, so you can monitor what's going on inside the PIC.  MPLAB-ICE shows
the SFR's as they are being read/written, and allows you to break or
trace when a variable is set to a certain value --or when a bit changes,
or when a flag is reset.  With the trace analyzer, you can see the values
of your variables, I/O, etc. in real time without halting your target.

Hope this is informative.
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1999\01\05@100520 by Andy Kunz

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At 11:13 PM 1/4/99 -0800, you wrote:
>A while ago Microchip was having trouble delivering the bondout version of
>their 20 MHz PICs for use in emulators, anyone know if this has been
>rectified?  What are the 20 MHz PIC emulator options currently available?


Tech-Tools has a 25MHz-capable Mathias available.

It works great at 20MHz, I never had a reason to go faster.

Andy
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Andy Kunz - Statistical Research, Inc. - Westfield, New Jersey USA
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1999\01\05@193953 by Harold Hallikainen

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On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 07:20:54 -0700 Darrel Johansen <.....darreljKILLspamspam@spam@PRIMENET.COM>
writes:
>Ed VanderPloeg wrote:

>A new emulator chip was designed last year and is now used in the new
>MPLAB-ICE emulator.  All probes for that emulator will run at the
>full speed of every PIC emulated.  Some third parties are using this
>new bond out chip (named 16C03 --previous emulator chip for the
mid-range
>was 16C02) and should be announcing full-speed emulation soon,
>if not already.
>
>Another advantage of the 16C03 is that it has lots of pins.  Some of
>the pins connect to the internal address/data bus of the SFR and
internal
>RAM, so you can monitor what's going on inside the PIC.  MPLAB-ICE
>shows the SFR's as they are being read/written, and allows you to break
or
>trace when a variable is set to a certain value --or when a bit
>changes, or when a flag is reset.  With the trace analyzer, you can see
the
>values of your variables, I/O, etc. in real time without halting your
target.
>


       Will new probes be available for the PIC Master, or do we need to
buy a new emulator to get the higher speed?

Harold


Harold Hallikainen
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Hallikainen & Friends, Inc.
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1999\01\06@095009 by Darrel Johansen

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Harold Hallikainen wrote:
>
> Will new probes be available for the PIC Master, or do we need to
> buy a new emulator to get the higher speed?

Harold,

As noted in a previous post, no new probes are being developed for the
PICMASTER.  PICMASTER will continue to be supported, and PICMASTER
probes can be used on MPLAB-ICE with an adapter.  If you are
a registered PICMASTER owner, you qualify for reduced pricing on
MPLAB-ICE, and you can keep your old PICMASTER and probes.  This allows
you to keep all your current development tools and get MPLAB-iCE probes
for new devices.

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