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1998\11\09@133440 by dms

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Is there a 16K pic similar to pic77 (I am running out of space!)

Also, I am thinking of changing some products to use the pic17c44 - is there any
thing special to be aware of when using this device?

Thanks

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1998\11\09@152015 by Brian Boles

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    Early next year, Microchip will sample the PIC18 family devices with
    32K bytes of OTP program memory and pinouts and peripheral sets
    compatible with PIC16C77,76.

    Rgds, Brian.


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Subject: 16K pic and pic17c44
Author:  dmsspamKILLspamUKONLINE.CO.UK (Stephen H Alsop) at Internet_Exchange
Date:    11/9/98 11:22 AM


Is there a 16K pic similar to pic77 (I am running out of space!)

Also, I am thinking of changing some products to use the pic17c44 - is there any
thing special to be aware of when using this device?

Thanks

Stephen H Alsop at S&S Systems Ltd, UK. 01909 773399
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1998\11\10@002430 by Tjaart van der Walt

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Stephen H Alsop wrote:
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> Is there a 16K pic similar to pic77 (I am running out of space!)
>
> Also, I am thinking of changing some products to use the pic17c44 - is there anything special to be aware of when using this device?

Only the crazy price. If are going to change micro
anyway, have a look at the 68HC16 family. You get
way, way, *way* more bang for your buck. Unless you
have MPC, you don't have a proper compiler for the
17C$$$ range anyway, so you might a well go the whole
hog.

You'll find Motorola quite willing to part with some
hardware and software to set you up, too.

I think the 17C$$$ prices are calculated with the
aim to make people laugh. Instead people buy them.
Beats me. I honestly think Microchip are stretching
their brand loyalty hair thin with the 17C$$$ prices.

Vote with your dollars.

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1998\11\10@003729 by Dennis Plunkett

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At 07:05 10/11/98 +0200, you wrote:
>Stephen H Alsop wrote:
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>> Is there a 16K pic similar to pic77 (I am running out of space!)
>>
>> Also, I am thinking of changing some products to use the pic17c44 - is
there anything special to be aware of when using this device?
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Ah, now we start to get into the micro vs micro stuff.

In this case I would not recommend the 68HC16, these have been a bit of a
flop of Motorola and are neither your knee nor your elbow. Also not all that
easy to debug as hardware emulators and such are required. Also the
Automotive industry doesn't seem all that interested in these devices (The
bulk of the Motorola uP market, hint hint for cost savings, also the 68020
is a good one to look at but requires more work from your part).

I would look at the 68HC12, as this has a BDM port, so with simple and cheep
tools one can debug on the target. This is also a new range that Motorola
will be pushing them aggressively.


Dennis

1998\11\10@080031 by Andy Kunz

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>Automotive industry doesn't seem all that interested in these devices (The
>bulk of the Motorola uP market, hint hint for cost savings, also the 68020
>is a good one to look at but requires more work from your part).

In my experience, the 68* parts used by the auto industry have historically
been unavailable for production.  But if you use the Hitachi clones...

Andy

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1998\11\10@172739 by Dennis Plunkett

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At 07:54 10/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>Automotive industry doesn't seem all that interested in these devices (The
>>bulk of the Motorola uP market, hint hint for cost savings, also the 68020
>>is a good one to look at but requires more work from your part).
>
>In my experience, the 68* parts used by the auto industry have historically
>been unavailable for production.  But if you use the Hitachi clones...
>
>Andy
>
>==================================================================
>Andy Kunz - Statistical Research, Inc. - Westfield, New Jersey USA
>==================================================================
>
>

Ah, the man thinks the same way. Yes correct not all parts used in the Auto
industry is avaliable to the public as they are NEARLY masked versions, or
special versions. But this leads to a basic core that can be used over and
over again in others, and thus brings the price down. Remember that the
first HC11 was a 6802 with a external timer chip added in  for GM (If I can
remenber back that far)

Dennis

1998\11\12@183700 by John Payson

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|    Early next year, Microchip will sample the PIC18 family devices with
|    32K bytes of OTP program memory and pinouts and peripheral sets
|    compatible with PIC16C77,76.

Any idea when data for those things will be coming out?  I've
been eagerly awaiting ever since our interview last August.

Also, just FYI, there is one very good thing that has come from
my not moving to Arizona--I've managed to meet a wonderful woman
here in the Chicagoland area and got married about a month ago.
Feel free to spread the word around to Dick et al if you like.


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