Post by thread:[sx]: SCENIX VIDEO VIRTUAL PERIPHERAL

Ted: Thanks for the interest. If you are ever in Colorado you are invited to a meeting! We have other members that come from far away: California, Oregon, Kansas, Massachusetts and other exotic places. The groups has interests in just about anything technological or scientific. The only subjects not regularly discussed are religion and sports. Politics is allowed and members are very opinionated (on this and every other subject). We are a mix of hardware and software types with a fair amount of cross breeding. There is interest in PIC's and SX's. I have counted over half a dozen members of the group that have hacked PIC/SX hardware or software. Stupid PIC Tricks have been done by some of us for years now. See my personal Web page for a list: http://www.idcomm.com/personal/ottosen/ Not much is done with 6502's nowadays, although one member did some code on an old Apple][ to update an even older program in a custom SBC for one of his customers. I still recover old software from my Apple][ on occasion. Of course, the world is stuck the &%$%#@ PC so most of our work is done on that platform. Members run DOS, Windows and Linux on their machines. Our groups Web site is at http://6502group.org/ (not http://www.6502.org) and has a little information about some of the members. The 6502 Group is very much like the PIC List. This makes a complete description of the group impossible :-) -- Rich Ted Melton wrote: {Quote hidden}> > I'm not close to Colorado, but you have a 6502 Group ? I've been following > it lately at http://www.6502.org. They're developing a 6502 SBC. What stuff is your > ^502 Group into ? > > Ted > > Richard Ottosen wrote: > > > Dan Michaels wrote: > > > > > > Rich Ottosen wrote: > > > >No characters here but there is color. Yes, it is a SX doing all the > > > >work. :-) > > > > > > > >See the picture I have attached! > > > >I hope the picture file isn't too large for the list. > > > > > > > > > > Pretty amazing stuff for an SX. What are you using for RAM > > > space, or doing it all on the fly? [and isn't about time you > > > retired that monitor? :)]. > > > > The video is generated from code using only the RAM in the SX. > > [NO! Then how could I play Lemmings on my Amiga 2000???] > > > > And, Dan there may be a live demonstration of SX video at the 6502 Group > > meeting tonight at the Colorado School of Mines in Golden. You and any > > other PIC-Lister are invited. Contact me for details. > > > > -- Rich > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

Dan: Sorry you missed the 6502 Group meeting. We (Eric Smith and myself) did show SX generated video to the group. I demonstrated the SX doing color and talked about the basics of TV video and how the hardware works. Eric demonstrated his SX created monochrome character display and talked about how his software works. Eric also talked about some of the subtleties of NTSC color. Check here to see for some pictures: http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/ubicom/servid/ -- Rich Richard Ottosen wrote: {Quote hidden}> > Dan Michaels wrote: > > > > Rich Ottosen wrote: > > >No characters here but there is color. Yes, it is a SX doing all the > > >work. :-) > > > > > >See the picture I have attached! > > >I hope the picture file isn't too large for the list. > > > > > > > Pretty amazing stuff for an SX. What are you using for RAM > > space, or doing it all on the fly? [and isn't about time you > > retired that monitor? :)]. > > The video is generated from code using only the RAM in the SX. > [NO! Then how could I play Lemmings on my Amiga 2000???] > > And, Dan there may be a live demonstration of SX video at the 6502 Group > meeting tonight at the Colorado School of Mines in Golden. You and any > other PIC-Lister are invited. Contact me for details. > > -- Rich > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

Totally excellent. Looks like we will have a winner in the sxlist contest! After you guys polish the code and release it, I'll post it on the site (or link to it) and arrange to send you the prizes. http://www.sxlist.com/techref/ubicom/contest/video.htm I think I'll keep the contest running in case anyone else comes up with an improvement or different version. There is a lot of room for cool applications of this idea. BTW, I love your development environment... --- James Newton 1-619-652-0593 spam_OUTjamesnewtonTakeThisOuTsxlist.com SX FAQ: http://www.sxlist.com {Original Message removed}

Rich Ottosen wrote: ....... > >I demonstrated the SX doing color and talked about the basics of TV >video and how the hardware works. Eric demonstrated his SX created >monochrome character display and talked about how his software works. >Eric also talked about some of the subtleties of NTSC color. > Hi Rich, good show, looks like you win the prize, too. As the current resident xperk on video subtleties, maybe you can help ole Jinx out. He was wanting to remove|overlay|delete an onerous icon that his local TV station places in an obvious part of the screen. Ideally, I guess, he would like to "recognize" the icon, and then make it blend_in|go_away|etc. Maybe you can comment. [BTW, J doesn't actually know what an sx is, but just the same ....]. - danM -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email .....listservKILLspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Alexey: I find it very interesting! I can hardly wait for the NTSC/English version!!!! -- Rich Alexey Vladimirov wrote: {Quote hidden}> > 05 Jan 01, Dan Michaels writes to All: > > P> As the current resident xperk on video subtleties, maybe you can > P> help ole Jinx out. He was wanting to remove|overlay|delete an > P> onerous icon that his local TV station places in an obvious > P> part of the screen. > > P> Ideally, I guess, he would like to "recognize" the icon, and > P> then make it blend_in|go_away|etc. Maybe you can comment. > P> [BTW, J doesn't actually know what an sx is, but just the > P> same ....]. > > We have this done some time ago with SX28. It is simple project, calling > "advertisiment killer" - it recognizes current logo from the stored library (up > to 16 logo) and switch off audio, when the logo disappeared during the > commercial break. Sorry, only Russian description now: > http://www.svtehs.com/ru/logo.htm > However, all is clear from the photo... > > Some technical details: SX comparator input using for 4-bit videoADC (160 ns > resolution time), 8x8 pixels logo mask, simple correlation algorithm, up to 16 > logotypes can be stored simultaneously, on-screen display up to eight 8x8 > symbols plus logo graphics, five control keys. > > All is done on SX28, FM24C16 FRAM, CD4053 and LM1881 synchro separator, > all firmware written on Hitech C... > > Infrared module with learning capabilities can be added to this design to > remove commercials from the videotape during tape writing or to switch on some > other signal source (CD, DVD, video, etc...) at the commercial break. > > Same hardware can be used for different TV on-screen display functions, > real-time analyzing for video fragments (for example, in robotics and security > applications) and more. On SX52 also teletext and VPS detection can be > included, and analyzing area can be expanded up to 16x16 pixels... More > potential applications decribe James Newton at http://www.sxlist.com > > NTSC version and english description will come soon, if this design is > potentially interesting... > > Alexey > avladKILLspamsvtehs.com > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspam.....mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList EraseMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu