Post by thread:[ot]: cd-rom and cd-r doesn' t work

Hi to all engineers, Finally after working on my pc for about 3-4 hours I give up. CD-ROM and CDR are connected to same IDE bus one is master and The other one is slave. What did I check? 1. IDE itself works 2. CD-ROM can boot from any bootable CD 3. in windows 2000 says ( device is not working properly) 4. I uninstalled and reinstalled same thing 5. I always install and uninstall lots of software 6. I have service pack 3 and other recommended updates from msn any idea will appreciate Andre -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

1. Make sure that the settings in the BIOS are correct. Enable the IDE channel, and make sure the BIOS knows there are two drives on that channel. 2. Check the IDE cable. It almost certainly needs to be an ATA/66/100 job. Swap it out. Rearrange the drives on the cable. 3. Make sure that both drives are getting power. Check to make sure your power supply provides enough juice to run all of the drives and expansion cards (PCI, AGP, etc) that you have. That may be the problem; some cheaper power supplies will come rated at xxx watts but can't continuously provide more than 2/3 of that. 4. Check the jumpers on the drives. Hope that was helpful. Mike Hord {Quote hidden}>From: Andre Abelian <spam_OUTengelecTakeThisOuTEARTHLINK.NET> >Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list <.....PICLISTKILLspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU> >To: PICLISTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: [ot]: cd-rom and cd-r doesn' t work >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:27:51 -0700 > >Hi to all engineers, > >Finally after working on my pc for about 3-4 hours I give up. >CD-ROM and CDR are connected to same IDE bus one is master and >The other one is slave. >What did I check? > >1. IDE itself works >2. CD-ROM can boot from any bootable CD >3. in windows 2000 says ( device is not working properly) >4. I uninstalled and reinstalled same thing >5. I always install and uninstall lots of software >6. I have service pack 3 and other recommended updates from msn > >any idea will appreciate > >Andre > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different >ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

Sorry Andre, I'm not sure I follow. Which one isn't working? If you can boot from CD one of them at least must be working. Or did you mean that CDROM booting is enabled in the BIOS? Which CD player allows the booting? Do they work if installed one at a time as masters ? Shouldn't make a difference but have you tried them on the other IDE. In fact will one of them work as a slave(with CD jumper set as slave) off the IDE that the HDD is connected to? Does your system use Cable Select? In which case both CDROMS need to be jumpered to C/S, have you actually physically set the two drives to master/slave - if not they'll never work. If they work but 2K says they don't then I'd believe the practical rather than the the OS. Colin On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:27:51 -0700, Andre Abelian wrote: Finally after working on my pc for about 3-4 hours I give up. CD-ROM and CDR are connected to same IDE bus one is master and The other one is slave. What did I check? 1. IDE itself works 2. CD-ROM can boot from any bootable CD 3. in windows 2000 says ( device is not working properly) 4. I uninstalled and reinstalled same thing 5. I always install and uninstall lots of software 6. I have service pack 3 and other recommended updates from msn any idea will app -- cdb, .....bodgy1KILLspam.....optusnet.com.au on 30.04.2003 I have always been a few Dendrites short of an Axon and believe me it shows. Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until they speak! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

Andre Abelian wrote: > Finally after working on my pc for about 3-4 hours I give up. > CD-ROM and CDR are connected to same IDE bus one is master and > The other one is slave. > What did I check? > > 1. IDE itself works > 2. CD-ROM can boot from any bootable CD > 3. in windows 2000 says ( device is not working properly) > 4. I uninstalled and reinstalled same thing > 5. I always install and uninstall lots of software > 6. I have service pack 3 and other recommended updates from msn Perhaps disabling DMA support in your MB CMOS for this IDE channel will help. CDRs often are PIO4, while CDR/Ws are DMA. Mike. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email EraseMElistservspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

{Quote hidden}> -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Singer [SMTP:msingerspam_OUTPOLUOSTROV.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 5:51 AM > To: @spam@PICLISTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [ot]: cd-rom and cd-r doesn' t work > > Andre Abelian wrote: > > Finally after working on my pc for about 3-4 hours I give up. > > CD-ROM and CDR are connected to same IDE bus one is master and > > The other one is slave. > > What did I check? > > > > 1. IDE itself works > > 2. CD-ROM can boot from any bootable CD > > 3. in windows 2000 says ( device is not working properly) > > 4. I uninstalled and reinstalled same thing > > 5. I always install and uninstall lots of software > > 6. I have service pack 3 and other recommended updates from msn > > Perhaps disabling DMA support in your MB CMOS for this > IDE channel will help. CDRs often are PIO4, while CDR/Ws > are DMA. > > Mike. > That would be my first guess as well. Although running a CDR using PIO instead of DMA is just begging to turn you burner into a coaster manufacturing unit unless it has some kind of buffer underrun protection. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Hord [SMTP:KILLspamgaidinmdKILLspamHOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 12:53 AM To: RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [ot]: cd-rom and cd-r doesn' t work 2. Check the IDE cable. It almost certainly needs to be an ATA/66/100 job. Swap it out. Rearrange the drives on the cable. I've never seen a CDR/RW or CROM that supported anything higher than DMA33, in which case a standard 40 conductor cable is adequate. As an aside, There seems to be a commonly held belief that putting a CDROM/Burner onto the same channel as your hard drive will slow the hard drives data transfer rate. This is only true if the CDROM in question only supports PIO. All modern DMA33 enabled devices will happily sit on the same channel as a DMA100/133 hard drive without affecting it's performance. Regards Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. ======================================================================= Any questions about Bookham's E-Mail service should be directed to spamBeGonepostmasterspamBeGonebookham.com. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email TakeThisOuTlistservEraseMEspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Colin, Thanks for your replay. windows 2000 doesn't show any cd I put one of them master and the other one slave and when I change the cdr to master it can boot it from cdr too (on start up only). When I uninstall the drivers after I restart it finds new hardware But after installing drivers it says "this device is not working properly" my problem is windows 2000 doesn't recognize any cd after installation. I know for sure that ide bus is fine and cd drives are ok too it is just some thing happened to windows. I know for sure reinstallation will fix it but I have too many softwares to install that is the problem. I was looking for cd-rom installation software that might Help. Andre {Original Message removed}

> -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Singer [SMTP:msingerEraseME.....POLUOSTROV.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 5:42 AM > To: EraseMEPICLISTMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [ot]: cd-rom and cd-r doesn' t work > > Michael Rigby-Jones wrote: > > ..All modern DMA33 enabled devices will happily > > sit on the same channel as a DMA100/133 hard > > drive without affecting it's performance... > > I have not compared DMA33 with DMA100/133 specs, > But I'm quite sure they are different. DMA100/133 > were developed for speed, not compatibility, I think. > > Mike. > Nevertheless, they coexist quite happily on the same cable. I have proved this with my own PC, running a benchmark on the hard drive before and after fitting a CDROM as a slave device on the same cable. The results didn't differ by any more than the normal repeatability variations. Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. ======================================================================= Any questions about Bookham's E-Mail service should be directed to RemoveMEpostmasterEraseMEEraseMEbookham.com. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList RemoveMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTKILLspammitvma.mit.edu>