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2007\03\18@173426 by Harold Hallikainen

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Does anyone have a favorite introductory book on vhdl?

Thanks!

Harold


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2007\03\18@180917 by wouter van ooijen

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> Does anyone have a favorite introductory book on vhdl?

Last week I asked a fellow theacher (who teaches VHDL) the same
question, he recommended
www.amazon.com/VHDL-Coding-Styles-Methodologies-Cohen/dp/07923847
41 (and gave me a xerox copy of it...) I have not had time to read it
(to busy thinking about writing an ARM RTOS).

Wouter van Ooijen

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2007\03\18@185633 by Peter P.

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Maybe 'VHDL Primer' by Bhasker (Prentice-Hall) ?

Peter P.


2007\03\18@225528 by John Chung

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Wouter,

  Are you writing a NEW RTOS or using the linux
version?

John

PS: How is your new TDS scope performing?




--- wouter van ooijen <spam_OUTwouterTakeThisOuTspamvoti.nl> wrote:

> > Does anyone have a favorite introductory book on
> vhdl?
>
> Last week I asked a fellow theacher (who teaches
> VHDL) the same
> question, he recommended
>
www.amazon.com/VHDL-Coding-Styles-Methodologies-Cohen/dp/07923847
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2007\03\19@001409 by Rich

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VHDL Made Easy, David Pellerin, Douglas Taylor
Essential VHDL RTL synthesis Done Right, Sundar Rajan
VHDL for Programmable Logic,  Kevin Skahill

I recommend the top one highly.  If you want more references on high speed
digital design, etc.  Let me know.



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2007\03\19@001725 by Rich

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VHDL Made Easy, David Pellerin, Douglas Taylor
Essential VHDL RTL synthesis Done Right, Sundar Rajan
VHDL for Programmable Logic,  Kevin Skahill

I recommend the top one highly.  If you want more references on high speed
digital design, etc.  Let me know.


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2007\03\19@031927 by wouter van ooijen

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>    Are you writing a NEW RTOS or using the linux
> version?

'the' Linux version?

I use the LPC2148 and LPC2106 in some classes. I have two write some
support software for it anyway, so I am thing of adding multitasking.
Not that big a deal. Compareable with FreeRTOS, uC/OS-II, etc but much
smaller and more limited in targets. And I want it to be free as in free
beer, not just as in freedom.

> PS: How is your new TDS scope performing?

You have a good memory! I never bought one, did not miss it much up to
now (need to find out how fast my LPC2148 is realy running).

Wouter van Ooijen

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2007\03\19@060405 by Alan B. Pearce

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> PS: How is your new TDS scope performing?

You might want to wait a month if you do decide to get a new scope.
Tektronix have a new one that is to be announced in the first week of April
in the UK, I assume it will be the same elsewhere for timing. It is a
development of the TDS4000 series DPO units, but has digital timing as well,
and a 10M deep buffer.

2007\03\19@060718 by John Chung

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> > PS: How is your new TDS scope performing?
>
> You have a good memory! I never bought one, did not
> miss it much up to
> now (need to find out how fast my LPC2148 is realy
> running).
>

 I am going to buy the TDS 1012B soon. Are you using
the LPC for number crunching? Can't you use a pulse
reader just for simple measurements for the LPC?

Regards,
John



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2007\03\19@063618 by Vasile Surducan

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On 3/19/07, Alan B. Pearce <.....A.B.PearceKILLspamspam@spam@rl.ac.uk> wrote:
> > PS: How is your new TDS scope performing?
>
> You might want to wait a month if you do decide to get a new scope.
> Tektronix have a new one that is to be announced in the first week of April
> in the UK, I assume it will be the same elsewhere for timing. It is a
> development of the TDS4000 series DPO units, but has digital timing as well,
> and a 10M deep buffer.

It's already available and quite expensive.

2007\03\19@064713 by wouter van ooijen

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> Are you using the LPC for number crunching?

At the moment I am using the LPC's just for classes. Last years students
made things like a radio data decoder, VGA driver, traffic light
installation (LEDs only), etc.

> Can't you use a pulse reader just for simple measurements for the LPC?

of course, but that requires a second board, wires, and *work* :)

(Jame & fellow admins: how about an [ARM] tag?)

Wouter van Ooijen

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2007\03\19@071726 by John Chung

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--- "Alan B. Pearce" <A.B.PearcespamKILLspamrl.ac.uk> wrote:

> > PS: How is your new TDS scope performing?
>
> You might want to wait a month if you do decide to
> get a new scope.
> Tektronix have a new one that is to be announced in
> the first week of April
> in the UK, I assume it will be the same elsewhere
> for timing. It is a
> development of the TDS4000 series DPO units, but has
> digital timing as well,
> and a 10M deep buffer.
>
> --
 Thanks for the input Alan. I am currently doing low
end MCU work with some audio work and analog work so I
don't need an expensive scope . From the pricing of
the TDS4000 series I can't afford it. As it is TDS1012
is expensive in my country. I did try to look at
Lecroy Wavejet 312 only to find that it cost about 2.7
times more than TDS 1012B. Deep buffer is a definite
plus! But the cost is too expensive. With the limited
memory on the TDS1012 I need to do selected tracing
for signals... Thanks for the input. If money permits
maybe I upgrade to a better scope. :)

John

PS: If you are in Malaysia, Tekmark is having 10%
discount for TDS1000,2000 and 3000 series.







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2007\03\19@071923 by John Chung

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--- wouter van ooijen <.....wouterKILLspamspam.....voti.nl> wrote:

> > Are you using the LPC for number crunching?
>
> At the moment I am using the LPC's just for classes.
> Last years students
> made things like a radio data decoder, VGA driver,
> traffic light
> installation (LEDs only), etc.

 VGA driver? I would like to see that project in
particular :) Any links?

John




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2007\03\19@074212 by wouter van ooijen

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>   VGA driver? I would like to see that project in
> particular :) Any links?

No. This year I plan to require a description of each project that can
be put on the web. But I fear the level this year will be lower.

Wouter van Ooijen

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2007\03\19@085908 by Dario Greggio

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John Chung wrote:

>   VGA driver? I would like to see that project in
> particular :) Any links?

something like this:
www.piccoder.co.uk/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,38/func,view/id,611/catid,18/
?
(& follow all links)

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2007\03\19@100234 by alan smith

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HDL Chip Design by Douglas Smith.  Shows both VHDL and Verilog, side by side.

Harold Hallikainen <EraseMEharoldspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuThallikainen.org> wrote:  Does anyone have a favorite introductory book on vhdl?

Thanks!

Harold


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2007\03\19@110858 by Harold Hallikainen

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Thanks to all who have responded. I have some reading to do!

Harold

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2007\03\19@114924 by William Chops Westfield

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>> VGA driver? I would like to see that project in
>> particular :) Any links?
>>
Note that "ownership" of student projects is a somewhat thorny issue.
In general, they're NOT owned by the school.

BillW

2007\03\19@130307 by wouter van ooijen

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> Note that "ownership" of student projects is a somewhat
> thorny issue. In general, they're NOT owned by the school.

In general they are covered by whatever agreement or rules they were
made under. When no agreement or rules apply ... (that's lawyers
paradise).

For the upcoming class I will require a "web-presentable" form of the
project, including sources. I am not sure of copyright requirements yet,
I think I will require public permission to reproduce the document and
the sources, and leave *use* of the sources (and related material, like
circuit diagrams and PCB layouts, if applicable) for the students to
decide.

Wouter van Ooijen

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2007\03\19@231510 by John Chung

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Do post it when the projects are up on the web.

Thanks,
John


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2007\03\19@232625 by John Chung

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Thanks Dario.


John


--- Dario Greggio <KILLspamadpm.toKILLspamspaminwind.it> wrote:

> John Chung wrote:
>
> >   VGA driver? I would like to see that project in
> > particular :) Any links?
>
> something like this:
>
www.piccoder.co.uk/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,38/func,view/id,611/catid,18/
> ?
> (& follow all links)
>
> --
> Ciao, Dario il Grande (522-485 a.C.)
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2007\03\20@030001 by wouter van ooijen

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> > No. This year I plan to require a description of
> > each project that can
> > be put on the web. But I fear the level this year
> > will be lower.

> Do post it when the projects are up on the web.

I will. That is one of the objectives: a showcase for the university.

But I will bottom-post :)

Wouter van Ooijen

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