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2006\07\30@184413 by Marcel Duchamp

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Today I started cleaning my garage, a task put off for many years.  I
won't even start to go into what got thrown out; I don't want to hear
how valuable it is and how it should be saved.  Data books? You can find
all pertinent data sheets on the web now.  Junk computers?  Cost lots to
ship and what have you got? Junk.

Reaching for a stack of literature, an old issue of "Dr. Dobb's" jumped
out in near perfect condition. Volume 1, number 7, August 1976. As it
was named then: dr. dobb's journal of COMPUTER Calisthenics &
Orthodontia - Running Light Without Overbyte.

It proved to be a time machine glimpse into the past. For example, an
article entitled: The Time for Floppy's is Just About Now! by the
editor. Details of a number of floppy disc subsystems, including one for
$995 (in 10-quantity).

-and-

Floating point routines for the 6502 by R. Rankin & S. Wozniak

Then in a letter to the editor, a complaint about bad service from THE
DIGITAL GROUP, a small wanna-be microcomputer company in Denver.  It
mentions a Gus Calabrese who stated they were swamped with orders. Could
this be same Gus as often writes to this list?  What it was like working
for one of the pioneer computer companies back in the day?

2006\07\30@235922 by Gus S Calabrese

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Luckily that was my evil twin.  I, myself, am 19 years old, ( ferret  
years ) was
and un.luckily was attached at the hip to my evil twin for years.

I do remember how to turn the dial on the way.back machine however.
Richard Bemis  hmmmmm Dock..tor Suding ( yikes, i guess he had a  
first a name )
Kevin Klejwa (best software coder I ever met ) , .... actually ran  
into Steve Jobs
and did not know it.  At least we were in the same building hawking  
computers.

I guess I could write a novel.... " The APPLE that was naught "
mystery person
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Could you scan that bit of magazine.  and the cover ?
e.mail to spam_OUTevil.twinTakeThisOuTspamoh-god.com

0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

On 2006-Jul 30, at 16:44hrs PM, Marcel Duchamp wrote:

Today I started cleaning my garage, a task put off for many years.  I
won't even start to go into what got thrown out; I don't want to hear
how valuable it is and how it should be saved.  Data books? You can find
all pertinent data sheets on the web now.  Junk computers?  Cost lots to
ship and what have you got? Junk.

Reaching for a stack of literature, an old issue of "Dr. Dobb's" jumped
out in near perfect condition. Volume 1, number 7, August 1976. As it
was named then: dr. dobb's journal of COMPUTER Calisthenics &
Orthodontia - Running Light Without Overbyte.

It proved to be a time machine glimpse into the past. For example, an
article entitled: The Time for Floppy's is Just About Now! by the
editor. Details of a number of floppy disc subsystems, including one for
$995 (in 10-quantity).

-and-

Floating point routines for the 6502 by R. Rankin & S. Wozniak

Then in a letter to the editor, a complaint about bad service from THE
DIGITAL GROUP, a small wanna-be microcomputer company in Denver.  It
mentions a Gus Calabrese who stated they were swamped with orders. Could
this be same Gus as often writes to this list?  What it was like working
for one of the pioneer computer companies back in the day?

2006\07\31@003522 by Vasile Surducan

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On 7/31/06, Gus S Calabrese <.....gscKILLspamspam@spam@omegadogs.com> wrote:
> Luckily that was my evil twin.  I, myself, am 19 years old,


Ahh, that's explain a lot from your rebel atitude...
:)

greetings,
Vasile

2006\07\31@085801 by John Ferrell

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I have been throwing out for a couple of years now.
I have yet to trash a box of magazines and regret it.

Perhaps I will empty the TRS-80 shelf today...

John Ferrell    W8CCW
"My Competition is not my enemy"
http://DixieNC.US

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2006\07\31@144025 by Gerhard Fiedler

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John Ferrell wrote:

> I have been throwing out for a couple of years now.

> Perhaps I will empty the TRS-80 shelf today...

Man, I wouldn't want to know with what you /started/ to trow out... :)

Gerhard

2006\07\31@180013 by John Ferrell

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I really hated to pitch the 8080 stuff....
 Old IBM PC s are getting close.
 A couple hundred pounds of plain old "salvage " assemblies...
   I want my shop back, it has become a dumping zone...

I had an offer yesterday to go pick up whatever is left from an estate clean
up, I passed....

John Ferrell    W8CCW
"My Competition is not my enemy"
http://DixieNC.US

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerhard Fiedler" <listsspamKILLspamconnectionbrazil.com>
To: <.....piclistKILLspamspam.....mit.edu>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ee] Cleaning the garage


> John Ferrell wrote:
>
>> I have been throwing out for a couple of years now.
>
>> Perhaps I will empty the TRS-80 shelf today...
>
> Man, I wouldn't want to know with what you /started/ to trow out... :)
>
> Gerhard
>
> --

2006\07\31@194027 by Tom Sefranek

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John Ferrell wrote:

>I had an offer yesterday to go pick up whatever is left from an estate clean
>up, I passed....
>
>John Ferrell    W8CCW
>"My Competition is not my enemy"
>http://DixieNC.US
>  
>
I pay monthly for a storage trailer 40' x 10' FULL!
Besides the garage, basement, and attic.
I even have a web site...

http://hamradio.cmcorp.com/inventory/Inventory.html

I think it has to do with having to clip parts out of radios
and tv's as a very young ham.
Yea, they had TUBES in them days, and the parts had leads!
I don't think I ever got over it.  
But at least I offer my collection to a greater audience.

Tom

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2006\07\31@200541 by William Chops Westfield

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On Jul 31, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Tom Sefranek wrote:

> I pay monthly for a storage trailer 40' x 10' FULL!
>
I recently had the depressing realization that the amount I've
spent on my extra storage unit probably exceeds not only the
value of the stuff in it, but also the cost of replacing it all
with brand new "similar" stuff.  Except for the emotional value;
you don't really expect me to throw away that homebuilt keyboard
controller and 300bps terminal, do you?

BillW

2006\07\31@204358 by Gerhard Fiedler

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William ChopsWestfield wrote:

> you don't really expect me to throw away that homebuilt keyboard
> controller and 300bps terminal, do you?

Would you want to be expected to actually use it again? :)

But I know how you feel... it's just that I've been moving around a bit,
outside of the UHaul zone, which kind of puts a natural cap on such
luxuries.

Gerhard

2006\07\31@205800 by James Newtons Massmind

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This is a really... Heavy? Important? Close?... Subject for me.

My Dad (passed 10 Feb 2003) has left me with a house in Oregon... Full to
the brim with... Stuff... Some of it may be worth something, most of what is
clearly worth something has been ebayed, but the rest is still...

Well, for example, there are all these radio tubes. Most are worth nothing,
I'm sure. But there are a few that may be valuable. The problem is figuring
out which ones are which. Just writing down all the part numbers to ebay
them as a batch would take more time that I can afford.

But I would feel really bad if I just trashed it and there were some rare,
one of a kind tube in there that was just what was needed to bring some old
system back to life... I don't know, does that make any sense?

So, are there any Hams in SW Oregon who like to have a look through it? I
have previously worked with people who ebayed items they knew to be of value
and split the sale with me.

And then there are the books, the tools, the speedo collection (more than 70
pair, don't ask) and goodness knows what else that needs to find a good
home.

And then I look in my garage and think of my kids...

I spend time on my web sites and that is what I will give them that won't
cost them anything. Just a DVD-ROM or so. The physical stuff needs to go
away.

---
James Newton, massmind.org Knowledge Archiver
jamesspamspam_OUTmassmind.org 1-619-652-0593 fax:1-208-279-8767
http://www.massmind.org Saving what YOU know.

2006\07\31@205904 by Marcel duchamp

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Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> William ChopsWestfield wrote:
>
>> you don't really expect me to throw away that homebuilt keyboard
>> controller and 300bps terminal, do you?
>
> Would you want to be expected to actually use it again? :)
>
> But I know how you feel... it's just that I've been moving around a bit,
> outside of the UHaul zone, which kind of puts a natural cap on such
> luxuries.
>
> Gerhard
>

If you are in the Southern U.S., would that be "Y'all Haul"?

2006\07\31@205952 by David Minkler

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I'm going to go throw some stuff out now.  Thanks guys for the inspiration.

Dave

William Chops Westfield wrote:

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2006\07\31@223650 by Charles Craft

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I traded emails with Steve Ciarcia a couple years ago when I was moving.
He said his collection of Byte has been gone for years.  :-)
Made it easier for me to recycle the boxes of Byte and other PC magazines.
Still have 1/2 of a 2 car garage to clear out - lots of SCSI cables. Ugh!

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2006\07\31@223901 by Charles Craft

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How do people find your site other than word of mouth?
Any links from ARRL?
Thoughts about listing stock of others or linking to them from your page?

I don't have real treasures but have plenty of SCSI and network cables from ~20 years in the UNIX biz.

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'[ee] Cleaning the garage'
2006\08\01@000118 by William Chops Westfield
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On Jul 31, 2006, at 5:57 PM, James Newtons Massmind wrote:

> I would feel really bad if I just trashed it and there were
> some rare, one of a kind tube in there that was just what was
> needed to bring some old system back to life... I don't know,
> does that make any sense?
>
I live in a lovely house surrounded by large oak trees.  About
12 years ago, shortly after we had moved in, one of those oak
trees broke, and proceeded to crash down on and through the
house.  Rumble, Rumble, Crash! Blackout!  Very exciting.  Noone
was near enough to be hurt, and the damage wasn't too hard to
get repaired.  Insurance, however, does not pay for removing
the broken tree from the yard; only for getting it off of the
house itself.  So there I was with a large oak tree, cut in
pieces, lying in my yard.  I tried offering it on the work
mailing list as free firewood.  Not many takers (it wasn't really
in fireplace sized pieces...)  Someone suggested I contact the
local "wood turners club."  These are folks that like to chuck
a big piece of wood in a lathe, and chop away bits and pieces and
chips till they have a bowl.  Or something.    The next morning,
a bunch of guys with chain saws and trailers showed up, rubbed
their hands together "this is GREAT!" and took away most of my
tree.  Apparently big chunks of hardwood are hard to come by
(people, and communities, get a bit upset if you start cutting
down 100+ year old trees to make bowls.)

The moral of this story is that no matter what junk you have,
you can probably find someone who thinks it's a treasure.  You
can't be too picky about getting reimbursed, or even about finding
out what happens to stuff.  It helps if you find the right person
(or group of people.)

BillW


2006\08\01@062723 by Tom Sefranek

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Charles Craft wrote:

>How do people find your site other than word of mouth?
>
Google, etc.  It works well enough to keep me hopping to fill the requests.

>Any links from ARRL?
>
No, but others have added a link to my site from their pages.

>Thoughts about listing stock of others or linking to them from your page?
>
As I have time, I could be interested.

>I don't have real treasures but have plenty of SCSI and network cables from ~20 years in the UNIX biz.
>  
>
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hamradio.cmcorp.com/inventory/Inventory.html
http://www.harvardrepeater.org


2006\08\01@062838 by Tom Sefranek

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Hey Bill!

Did you sneak a peak in my trailer?
(I think I have a 6809 based homebuilt terminal in there.)

William Chops Westfield wrote:

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2006\08\01@081524 by Howard Winter

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Dave,

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:05:29 -0700, David Minkler wrote:

> I'm going to go throw some stuff out now.  Thanks guys for the inspiration.

That's funny - I'm inspired to buy another shed to overflow into!  :-)))

Pac-rat and proud of it...


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\08\02@082252 by Gus S Calabrese

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I have 44 acres i have not yet begun to fill up
one 40 by 8 by 8 foot container
one 50 ft trailer
one 28 ft trailer






On 2006-Jul 31, at 20:39hrs PM, Charles Craft wrote:

How do people find your site other than word of mouth?
Any links from ARRL?
Thoughts about listing stock of others or linking to them from your  
page?

I don't have real treasures but have plenty of SCSI and network  
cables from ~20 years in the UNIX biz.

{Original Message removed}

2006\08\02@094914 by Randy Glenn

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I dub thee Howard "Two-sheds" Winter.

-Randy

On 8/1/06, Howard Winter <RemoveMEHDRWTakeThisOuTspamh2org.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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2006\08\02@104234 by Alan B. Pearce

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>I dub thee Howard "Two-sheds" Winter.

So long as he is not "two jags", the owner of which nick-name has since been
renamed "two-sh*** (to rhyme with jags) - anyone familiar with UK
politicians will know what I am talking about ...

2006\08\02@161135 by William Chops Westfield

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On Aug 2, 2006, at 5:22 AM, Gus S Calabrese wrote:

> I have 44 acres i have not yet begun to fill up
> one 40 by 8 by 8 foot container
> one 50 ft trailer
> one 28 ft trailer
>
Your heirs will have James' problem, only more so!

 :-(
BillW

2006\08\04@040206 by Gus S Calabrese

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Howard   you can always store stuff at my place ....
AGSC

On 2006-Aug 02, at 07:49hrs AM, Randy Glenn wrote:

I dub thee Howard "Two-sheds" Winter.

-Randy

On 8/1/06, Howard Winter <spamBeGoneHDRWspamBeGonespamh2org.demon.co.uk> wrote:
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