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'[dsPIC]: dsPIC masters class?'
2003\07\21@051508 by e.d. deutekom

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Hello,

Did any one take the dsPIC masters classes? Did you get
hands-on dsPIC experience? Care to comment?

Regards Eelco.

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2003\07\21@141634 by James Caska

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Well I took the classes last year and some of them this year.

I like the dsPIC, although I suspect many of the traditional PIC users
are wondering what they are going to use such a device for because it is
starting to drift away from the bread and butter of small devices that
PIC is synonomous for.

I am porting muvium for the dsPIC which means soon you can run the same
java code on a 16FXX an 18FXX or a dsPICXX so for me it is a fantastic
upward migration path for muvium. Also it means for me at least, a
faster way for people to get started with dsPIC without having to learn
a whole new architecture.

So all in all.. Thumbs up for the dsPIC from me :-)

James Caska
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2003\07\21@142051 by D. Jay Newman

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Three cheers for James!

I would love to use a dsPIC for some video processing without having
to learn a whole new language (I *do* know my way around a PIC). Being
able to program the thing in Java makes it that much better.

> I am porting muvium for the dsPIC which means soon you can run the same
> java code on a 16FXX an 18FXX or a dsPICXX so for me it is a fantastic
> upward migration path for muvium. Also it means for me at least, a
> faster way for people to get started with dsPIC without having to learn
> a whole new architecture.
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2003\07\21@144414 by James Caska

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Exactly! I think it represents a significant learning curve to move from
the PIC to the dsPIC.. And learning curves can be painful. Getting
results is what most of you care about and to be able to present the key
advantages of the DSP as simple to use java objects rather than having
to get down and dirty with the intimaties of the new dsPIC instructions
to get results seems to me to be a good application of 'abstract
programming'

Cheers,

James Caska
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2003\07\21@144624 by D. Jay Newman

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The learning curve depends on what you're doing. If you're just using the
dsPIC as a PIC with more memory, then it *looks* like it could be an easy
step.

Of course, I don't have access to samples of these chips.  :(

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2003\07\21@153725 by James Caska

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>If you're just using the dsPIC as a PIC with more memory,
>then it *looks* like it could be an easy step.

This is true. But something new always takes time. Just look how long it
has taken microchip themselves to produce a 'new' archicture.

I think it is a great device, a bold iniative from a company who has
been focused on control inherited from an existing architecture. To
branch out and try to push up into larger devices and push into DSP and
attempt to design a brand new architecture inhouse and define a whole
new hybrid device category is a very gutsy move which says a lot about
the thinking of microchip that has moved them to #1 in just over a
decade.

James Caska
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2003\07\21@212700 by Ishaan Dalal

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Any idea when these will really be available?

Also, Microchip's policy of putting "future products" on their normal
product indexes is annoying sometimes...you look at this cool PIC, and turns
out it isn't there! :-)

Cheers,
Ishaan

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