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2008\12\28@022949 by Josh Koffman

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Hi all. I recently got a new laptop that I feel is running a bit slow.
It's an AMD based dual core machine with fairly respectable specs. It
is running Vista however. This is an HP tablet PC so I'm a little
hesitant to spend the time trying to find all the WinXP drivers. I
know HP doesn't have them on their website.

In any case, I want to see how this laptop stacks up to my Core2Duo
laptop, so presumably I'll need some sort of benchmarking program.
I'd like to test CPU performance as well as hard drive performance.
Ideally this will give me a baseline that I can then test against if
I'm able to try some tweaks to try to speed things up. I guess it will
need to run on XP and Vista in a similar way or it'll throw off the
values.

As a secondary question, other than installing a different OS, does
anyone know of any tweaks I might be able to try to speed Vista up?
I've been watching my resource monitor and it seems to be swapping
some to hard drive even though it's got 1.5GB of free physical memory.

Actually, I have a third question as well. I have grown accustomed to
the WinXP start menu (two columns, recently used programs on the left,
etc). The Vista one is driving me nuts as it makes you scroll through
your "all programs" list rather than showing you the whole lot like
any of the other NT based versions. I know I can get the Win2K start
menu, but is there a way to get the WinXP start menu?

Thanks!

Josh
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2008\12\28@024145 by Vitaliy

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"Josh Koffman"
> In any case, I want to see how this laptop stacks up to my Core2Duo
> laptop, so presumably I'll need some sort of benchmarking program.
> I'd like to test CPU performance as well as hard drive performance.
> Ideally this will give me a baseline that I can then test against if
> I'm able to try some tweaks to try to speed things up. I guess it will
> need to run on XP and Vista in a similar way or it'll throw off the
> values.

We use this at work:

http://www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm

I believe it does exactly what you want.

Vitaliy

2008\12\28@064119 by Virchanza

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That's a really horrible story. Your operating sysem is so bad that
you're painstakingly looking for ways to keep it viable. Do yourself a
favour and abandon Microsoft sooner rather than later. I myself used the
MS Windows line of operating systems up until Windows XP, but when I saw
Vista I knew I would be forced to pursue another line. What do you think
the next MS Windows operating system is going to be like? Are you really
going to wait for it to come before you decide it's time to abandon
Microsoft?

At the moment I'm using Linux, the Xubuntu kind. I tried Ubuntu Linux
but it was too pampered for a "power user", so then I tried Kubuntu,
which had too much shite like widgets, and finally I tried Xubuntu which
is just right for me, it's the perfect mixture between convenience and
actually letting me do some stuff myself (such as controlling file
system mounting by myself).


Josh Koffman wrote:
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2008\12\28@114810 by Clint Sharp

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<spam_OUT3e0a4bc40812272329m65128505xb937e84154a109e7TakeThisOuTspammail.gmail.com>, Josh
Koffman <.....joshybearKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com> writes
>As a secondary question, other than installing a different OS, does
>anyone know of any tweaks I might be able to try to speed Vista up?
>I've been watching my resource monitor and it seems to be swapping
>some to hard drive even though it's got 1.5GB of free physical memory.
>
Fit more memory, then a bit more. Personally I'd suggest finding the
tallest cliff you can and dropping Vista off it (let it meet the
vista?), you'll achieve satisfactory acceleration. If that's really not
an option then turn off the visual effects, get rid of the 'dashboard'
thing on the right of the screen.
>Actually, I have a third question as well. I have grown accustomed to
>the WinXP start menu (two columns, recently used programs on the left,
>etc). The Vista one is driving me nuts as it makes you scroll through
>your "all programs" list rather than showing you the whole lot like
>any of the other NT based versions. I know I can get the Win2K start
>menu, but is there a way to get the WinXP start menu?
The best way would be to install XP, If it's one of the Business
versions of Vista, you can quite legally install XP using your Vista
license, of course, as you say, HP don't always have the XP drivers on
the website but I've had success just asking them for a copy of XP inn
the past for Vista Only machines.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Josh
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>completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
>fools.
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2008\12\28@140654 by Josh Koffman

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On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Clint Sharp <piclistspamKILLspammit.edu> wrote:
> Fit more memory, then a bit more. Personally I'd suggest finding the
> tallest cliff you can and dropping Vista off it (let it meet the
> vista?), you'll achieve satisfactory acceleration. If that's really not
> an option then turn off the visual effects, get rid of the 'dashboard'
> thing on the right of the screen.

The machine already has 3GB of RAM. I think it's using some for video
memory though, I will have to see if that's a ratio I can adjust. I
turned off transparency, and I'm ready to drop back to completely
basic visuals (Win2K style) but I wanted to get a benchmark with it as
is before making the change. Dashboard was the first thing I turned
off.  Actually, I would have flipped to basic visuals before but I
wanted to see if I could figure a way to get the WinXP start menu.
Flipping to basics seems to revert to the Win2K start menu. Very odd
if you ask me.

> The best way would be to install XP, If it's one of the Business
> versions of Vista, you can quite legally install XP using your Vista
> license, of course, as you say, HP don't always have the XP drivers on
> the website but I've had success just asking them for a copy of XP inn
> the past for Vista Only machines.

Sadly it isn't a business version. I might try to get in touch with
them though to see what they say about drivers.

Thanks!

Josh
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completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools.
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2008\12\28@140925 by Josh Koffman

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On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Vitaliy <.....spamKILLspamspam.....maksimov.org> wrote:
> We use this at work:
>
> http://www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm
>
> I believe it does exactly what you want.

Thanks Vitaliy, I will check it out!

Josh
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completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools.
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2008\12\28@151757 by Vitaliy

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"Virchanza" wrote:
> That's a really horrible story. Your operating sysem is so bad that
> you're painstakingly looking for ways to keep it viable. Do yourself a
> favour and abandon Microsoft sooner rather than later.

I believe this is a religious argument, and as such it is not allowed on the
PICList. :)

Vitaliy

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