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'[TECH] Automatic Directory Compare Software?'
2008\07\23@200320 by Josh Koffman

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I think the best way to explain what I'm asking is to describe the situation.

I have a drive that holds my main active music collection. It's about
80GB worth of music that means a fair bit to me. I keep it on an
external drive and I have copies of the data on two other drives. I
add to the main drive fairly frequently. What that currently means is
that to ensure that my backups are current I go in to the backup
drive, delete all 80GB of data, then copy it all again. It takes quite
a while and isn't really efficient.

What I'm looking for is like a drive cloning software but that will
work on only a specific directory. It has to be manually triggered as
my backup drives aren't usually connected to the live system. What I'd
love is a small (preferably free) utility that will do a diff, find
out the missing files, and sync the backup drive to the source drive.

Any suggestions? I haven't found anything that takes care of this but
perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places?

Thanks!

Josh
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2008\07\23@200758 by Marcel Birthelmer

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rsync

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Josh Koffman <spam_OUTjoshybearTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:

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2008\07\23@200933 by Bob Blick

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Hi Josh,

rsync is what I use, on both Linux and Windows. If you use it on Windows
you either need Cygwin and Perl installed, or use an rsync binary(that's
what I do). Here's a link to Windows binaries:
http://optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au/help/rsync/rsync_pc1.html

Cheers,

Bob


On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:02:59 -0700, "Josh Koffman" <.....joshybearKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com>
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2008\07\23@201935 by W. Jacobs

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Josh,
I use Sync Toy.  It has been reliable and easy to set up.
www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=E0FC1154-C975-4814-9649-CCE41AF06EB7&displaylang=en
bill


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2008\07\23@202923 by Herbert Graf

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On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 17:02 -0700, Josh Koffman wrote:
> I think the best way to explain what I'm asking is to describe the situation.
>
> I have a drive that holds my main active music collection. It's about
> 80GB worth of music that means a fair bit to me. I keep it on an
> external drive and I have copies of the data on two other drives. I
> add to the main drive fairly frequently. What that currently means is
> that to ensure that my backups are current I go in to the backup
> drive, delete all 80GB of data, then copy it all again. It takes quite
> a while and isn't really efficient.
>
> What I'm looking for is like a drive cloning software but that will
> work on only a specific directory. It has to be manually triggered as
> my backup drives aren't usually connected to the live system. What I'd
> love is a small (preferably free) utility that will do a diff, find
> out the missing files, and sync the backup drive to the source drive.
>
> Any suggestions? I haven't found anything that takes care of this but
> perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places?

A quick and dirty way:

ls /directory1 |sort > dir1_list
ls /directory2 |sort > dir2_list
diff dir1_list dir2_list | grep ">" > result

then a little "vi" and you've built a copy script. To automate pipe
result into a simple perl script that adds the appropriate copy command
and does the copy.

TTYL

2008\07\23@210847 by Josh Koffman

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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Herbert Graf <mailinglist4spamKILLspamfarcite.net> wrote:
> A quick and dirty way:
>
> ls /directory1 |sort > dir1_list
> ls /directory2 |sort > dir2_list
> diff dir1_list dir2_list | grep ">" > result
>
> then a little "vi" and you've built a copy script. To automate pipe
> result into a simple perl script that adds the appropriate copy command
> and does the copy.

Hm...should have mentioned that this machine is a Windows one.

That and I'm not as good at shell scripting as I used to (and I was
never really that good).

Thanks though!

Josh
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2008\07\23@210958 by Josh Koffman

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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:19 PM, W. Jacobs <.....wh2007KILLspamspam.....citlink.net> wrote:
> Josh,
> I use Sync Toy.  It has been reliable and easy to set up.
> www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=E0FC1154-C975-4814-9649-CCE41AF06EB7&displaylang=en
> bill

Aha! I totally forgot about Sync Toy. The 1.4 version wouldn't start
for me (this is a WinXP64 box) but the 2.0 version seems to have
worked. Thanks!

And for the folks who suggested rsync...I'm now looking in to it as a
backup too.

Thanks!

Josh
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2008\07\23@224017 by Apptech

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XXCOPY.
XCOPY supersupersuperb-set

Old versions free. Also some features of the older ones are
better.


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2008\07\23@234055 by Alex Harford

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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Josh Koffman <EraseMEjoshybearspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
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> What I'm looking for is like a drive cloning software but that will
> work on only a specific directory. It has to be manually triggered as
> my backup drives aren't usually connected to the live system. What I'd
> love is a small (preferably free) utility that will do a diff, find
> out the missing files, and sync the backup drive to the source drive.

I use rdiff-backup, on both Linux and Windows, it's rsync based.  Like
rsync, it can do network or local copies.

2008\07\24@031636 by Artem Zezyulinskiy

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Hi, Josh

I use xcopy (on windows machine):
xcopy "C:\start_directory\*.*" "N:\destination_dir" /E /I /Y /D
/E - copy of dir and sub-dir
/I - create new dir if need
/Y - yes to replacements of existing files
/D - copy only modified files

you can use others options of xcopy, to see the list do : c:\xcopy /?

I hope this will aid

Artem

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2008\07\24@033448 by Josh Koffman

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On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Artem Zezyulinskiy
<@spam@artemzezKILLspamspamsedatelec.com> wrote:
> I use xcopy (on windows machine):
> xcopy "C:\start_directory\*.*" "N:\destination_dir" /E /I /Y /D
> /E - copy of dir and sub-dir
> /I - create new dir if need
> /Y - yes to replacements of existing files
> /D - copy only modified files
>
> you can use others options of xcopy, to see the list do : c:\xcopy /?

Hi Artem,

Thanks for the advice. I wonder if the /d flag would work for new
_and_ modified files or if it's just for existing files that are
modified. Anyway it isn't a big deal as I'm using Sync Toy now.

Thanks!

Josh
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2008\07\24@035912 by Apptech

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Artem -

Have a look at XXCOPY.
You'll never go back ! :-)

       http://www.xxcopy.com

Freeware and for $ versions.

I found that the latter versions were less friendly across a
network (can't recall what the issue was) and long ago I
reverted to an older version.
Far far more capable than XCOPY.

Latest copy on the above site.

Version I use at

       http://others.servebeer.com/misc/xxcopy.exe


       Russell




I use xcopy (on windows machine):
xcopy "C:\start_directory\*.*" "N:\destination_dir" /E /I /Y
/D
/E - copy of dir and sub-dir
/I - create new dir if need
/Y - yes to replacements of existing files
/D - copy only modified files

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2008\07\24@044227 by Artem Zezyulinskiy

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Yes, it works for new _and_ modified files.

I created a batch file with this command and a windows planified task to
execute file on widows start up (open a session).
But i don't find anything to do this on close session.

Do you know how i can execute a file on Windows Shut-down or Session close?

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2008\07\24@045037 by Artem Zezyulinskiy

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Thank, Russel

I have download free xxcopy version. It's more powerfull that simple
xcopy :)

But for this time i'm happy with xcopy.


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2008\07\24@051549 by Tony Smith

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> Josh,
> I use Sync Toy.  It has been reliable and easy to set up.
> www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=E0FC1
154-C975-4814-9649-CCE41AF06EB7&displaylang=en
> bill


I used to use SyncToy, (well, only a few times), I liked it until someone
here pointed out it leaves little droppings all over the place.  I hadn't
noticed, but it does; it creates little temp or id files in the directories.

Other than that it works well for the price.

Tony

2008\07\24@070706 by Josh Koffman

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On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Tony Smith <RemoveMEajsmithTakeThisOuTspambeagle.com.au> wrote:
> I used to use SyncToy, (well, only a few times), I liked it until someone
> here pointed out it leaves little droppings all over the place.  I hadn't
> noticed, but it does; it creates little temp or id files in the directories.
>
> Other than that it works well for the price.

Hm...I had a poke around and you are right, there are some .dat files
that it has placed there. For the moment I'll just accept it as it
only seems to have placed the files in the root directory of what I'm
syncing. So since I'm syncing two directories (plus subs) there's only
two files. Not so bad...

Josh
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2008\07\25@003005 by Vitaliy

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Apptech wrote:
> Have a look at XXCOPY.
> You'll never go back ! :-)
>
>        http://www.xxcopy.com

I actually bought a license for my machine at work (after Russell suggested
it a while back). Great program.

Vitaliy

2008\07\31@142540 by Nicola Perotto

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Hi all,
I use the "Synchronize Dirs" command of Total Commander
http://www.totalcommander.com (trial available).
It works very well.
       Nic


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