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2010\09\17@114306 by RussellMc

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TECH because it shows what can be done with hand drawn graphics.

Some people have said that the referenced diagram,produced by Joesph
Minard in about 1860,  is "the best graphic ever produced".
It may not be, but it's probably the best I've ever seen. Will
interest people who would not normally care about graphs or the
subject matter.

          http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Minard.png

If you want to get maximum enjoyment from this (being an engineer
helps) you should NOT look up any commentaries or descriptions before
trying to work out all the things it tells you.

Semi spoiler only - enough to get you going.
Stop now if you want to do it entirely on your own.



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The 'graphic' depicts Napoleon's march on Moscow and subsequent
retreat and what befell his troops along the way.

It tells you where people went,when they went there , how many went
there and graphs an extra variable on he way back.

Note that units that would usually be in F is in something else that is similar.

Want MUCH more.
Gargoyle Joseph Minard either on web or in images, and be amazed.
But, this is the best.


         Russel

2010\09\17@130821 by Olin Lathrop

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RussellMc wrote:
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Minard.png

This drawing is referenced a lot.  It was also featured prominently in
Tufte's book called something like "Envisioning Information".  That book is
sortof the bible for visualization folks.


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2010\09\17@144722 by Vitaliy

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> RussellMc wrote:
>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Minard.png

I've never seen it before. It is beautiful.

Reminded me of another infographic I saw recently:

http://img.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo/business-lynch/files/4/8/4857A8FE-BDCF-4E59-A6E1-64D4028C5650.jpg

The labels are in pre-1918 Russian, so I understand that it's even more difficult for folks to guess what it represents than is the case with Minard's graph. The level of care and though put into it, are amazing.


> This drawing is referenced a lot.  It was also featured prominently in
> Tufte's book called something like "Envisioning Information".  That book
> is
> sortof the bible for visualization folks.

The Visual Display of Quantitative Information
http://amzn.com/0961392142

Just placed an order. This reminds me, Russell: please send me a PM with your shipping address. :-)

Vitaliy

2010\09\17@153138 by Oli Glaser

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From: "RussellMc" <spam_OUTapptechnzTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 4:42 PM
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <.....piclistKILLspamspam@spam@mit.edu>
Subject: [TECH]:: The best graphical representation ever produced?

> TECH because it shows what can be done with hand drawn graphics.
>
> Some people have said that the referenced diagram,produced by Joesph
> Minard in about 1860,  is "the best graphic ever produced".
> It may not be, but it's probably the best I've ever seen. Will
> interest people who would not normally care about graphs or the
> subject matter.
>
>           http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Minard.png

Lovely piece of work - I (think I) remember seeing it a long time ago somewhere (maybe in school)

Anyway, it turned into a black hole for me... spent the next couple of hours reading about the campaign and other Napoleonic escapades.. :-)
Yesterday it was the Radioactive Boy Scout...
You keep getting me with these posts Russell - one minute I'm working and the next I'm off at a tangent reading up on some random subject of interest you have posted about :-)

2010\09\17@174207 by James Newton

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Subject: [TECH]:: The best graphical representation ever produced?

TECH because it shows what can be done with hand drawn graphics.

Some people have said that the referenced diagram,produced by Joesph
Minard in about 1860,  is "the best graphic ever produced".
It may not be, but it's probably the best I've ever seen. Will
interest people who would not normally care about graphs or the
subject matter.

          http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Minard.png

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2010\09\17@182352 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:42 AM, RussellMc wrote:

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>           http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/
> Minard.png

Do you think he used a Microsoft tool for that, or something open  source?

 :-)
BillW

2010\09\17@221550 by Vitaliy

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William "Chops" Westfield wrote:
>>           http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/
>> Minard.png
>
> Do you think he used a Microsoft tool for that, or something open  
> source?

AFAICT it was a proprietary in-house tool.

Vitali

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