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'[SX]: SX Dev tools choice'
2003\08\01@215246 by Josh Koffman

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Ok, so it looks like I may need to order some sort of Scenix
programmer/debugger soon. My choices seem to be the SXKey from Parallax,
the SXDev from SV TEHS, and the SX-Debug from Kanda. The SXDev looks
really cool, but uses an I/O pin, while the other two don't. So, which
unit would be best for the SX beginner? I'd like something that isn't
too hard to use, and is relatively stable. The Kanda unit seems to be
the cheapest, but I don't want to get stuck with something that has no
support.

Thanks!

Josh
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2003\08\01@220529 by Josh Koffman

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Ok...my bad. The SXDev doesn't need an extra pin. So I guess the
question is, are the more expensive tools worth it?

Josh

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2003\08\02@014155 by Robert Ussery

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Well, I've had good luck with the SXKey. Great IDE, ICD, and constant
software updates. The actual SXKey hardware is way overpriced, but it does a
good job, and makes life easy for the beginner. Only disadvantage to the
SXKey software is that it doesn't support command-line AFAIK, so you can
only use assembler with it, unless the compiler you happen to choose
supports the SXKey. 'Course the whole point of the SX architecture is to
program it in assembly.

- Robert




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2003\08\02@014155 by Robert Ussery

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Well, I've had good luck with the SXKey. Great IDE, ICD, and constant
software updates. The actual SXKey hardware is way overpriced, but it does a
good job, and makes life easy for the beginner. Only disadvantage to the
SXKey software is that it doesn't support command-line AFAIK, so you can
only use assembler with it, unless the compiler you happen to choose
supports the SXKey. 'Course the whole point of the SX architecture is to
program it in assembly.

- Robert




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2003\08\02@125505 by Josh Koffman

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Well, I went digging a bit deeper on the Parallax website, and I found
the SX Tech Tool Kit
(http://www.parallax.com/detail.asp?product_id=45180). At $229.99 it's a
bit more than I wanted to spend. It comes with the SXKey, a dev board,
some chips, the "Programming the SX Microcontroller" book, and some
other stuff. Not too bad I guess. Anyone have any opinions on the SXKey
versus the SXDev?

I pretty much plan on programming in assembler, so I don't really care
about not being able to use another compiler. How difficult was it to
switch from PIC to SX programmingwise?

Thanks,

Josh
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> Well, I've had good luck with the SXKey. Great IDE, ICD, and constant
> software updates. The actual SXKey hardware is way overpriced, but it does a
> good job, and makes life easy for the beginner. Only disadvantage to the
> SXKey software is that it doesn't support command-line AFAIK, so you can
> only use assembler with it, unless the compiler you happen to choose
> supports the SXKey. 'Course the whole point of the SX architecture is to
> program it in assembly.

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2003\08\02@232257 by Robert Ussery

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I actually bought the SX Tech Kit. Very nice. My only other mcu experience
at the time was the Basic Stamp, so this was quite a step. It made the
transition very easy, and the book was a great help.
I haven't had any Pic experience, but from what I've read about Pic's, the
SX is very similar in basic architecture, except for the lack of hardware
peripherals. Once you get used to the VP's, I think you should find it very
similar to the Pic.
As far as programming, I think you'll find that it's a lot more
interrupt-oriented than the Pic, due to the VP's. You need to exercise your
timing skills, and juggle multiple things in a single RTCC interrupt.


- Robert


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