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'FW: Unsubscribe?'
1995\09\27@000447 by GILBERT, Mark

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>From: owner-piclist
>To: Multiple recipients of list PICLIST
>Subject: Unsubscribe?
>Date: Tuesday, 26 September, 1995 10:26PM
>
>I'm sorry to be the 10^6 th person to ask but ...
>
>How do you UNsubscribe this list?
>
>Dan
You may leave  the list at any  time by sending a "SIGNOFF  PICLIST" command
to
spam_OUTLISTSERVTakeThisOuTspamMITVMA.BITNET (or .....LISTSERVKILLspamspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU). You can also tell
LISTSERV
 Cheers Mark.


'HELP UNSUBSCRIBE!'
1995\12\01@084858 by Christopher
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an someone please tell me how to un-subscribe!@

-Crhis

1995\12\02@041111 by Wynn Rostek

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At 01:40 PM 12/1/95 EST, you wrote:
>an someone please tell me how to un-subscribe!@
>
>-Crhis
>

Chris,

Send a message to LISTSERVspamKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following body:

SIGNOFF PICLIST

That's supposed to do it.  (The list server is a different address from the
mail burster.)

Wynn Rostek


'How to unsubscribe?'
1996\03\31@115534 by Per Bunch
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Hi

How do I unsubscribe the PIC list?

Sincerely

Per Bunch
Per Bunch


'How to unsubscribe?'
1996\05\01@165240 by derek
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yes how do you do it!!!!

>Hi
>
>How do I unsubscribe the PIC list?
>
>Sincerely
>
>Per Bunch
>Per Bunch


Teleworking - a way of life.
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'How to unsubscribe from piclist??'
1996\11\25@042949 by Joseph Tan
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nyone know how to get out of pic list. It is over loading my
mails....
Thank you.


'How to unsubscribe from this list?'
1997\01\01@142243 by Andre Venter
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It was a great experience lurking here for the past 8 months but my work
takes me in a different direction, so have a goo new year guys...

Andre

'HELP I CAN'T UNSUBSCRIBE'
1997\01\02@082325 by n/a

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hello,
               How I can unsubscribe ?????

       agsb@

1997\01\02@082957 by Clewer,Brian

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You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF PICLIST" command
to .....LISTSERVKILLspamspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU (or EraseMELISTSERVspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTMITVMA.BITNET).
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From: owner-piclist
To: Multiple recipients of list PICLIST
Subject: HELP I CAN'T UNSUBSCRIBE
Date: 02 January 1997 10:52

hello,
               How I can unsubscribe ?????

       agsb@

'How to unsubscribe from this list?'
1997\01\02@133306 by Paul Bulmer

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In message <m0vfWDC-000aw1Cspamspam_OUTaztec.co.za>, Andre Venter
<@spam@anventerKILLspamspamAZTEC.CO.ZA> writes
>It was a great experience lurking here for the past 8 months but my work
>takes me in a different direction, so have a goo new year guys...
>
>Andre
I'm trying to get of this list help !!
--
Paul Bulmer


'I Cant seem To unsubscribe'
1997\02\21@084915 by Barry Bridgman
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    Hi there

    Trafic is getting a bit much for my poor mailbox so I am going to have
    to unsubscribe trouble is when I send the unsubscribe command I get a
    reply saying that I am subscribed under a different name. I there any
    chance that the list controller could unsubscribe me.

    Its been great listening to you all Bye


    Barry Bridgman

1997\02\21@110601 by all (Stephen Birchall)

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>     Hi there
>
>     Trafic is getting a bit much for my poor mailbox so I am going to have
>     to unsubscribe trouble is when I send the unsubscribe command I get a
>     reply saying that I am subscribed under a different name. I there any
>     chance that the list controller could unsubscribe me.
>
>     Its been great listening to you all Bye
>


To:   KILLspamLISTSERVKILLspamspammitvma.mit.edu


simply put in the main message

unsubscribe piclist

1997\02\21@214513 by Hamilton Feltman

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At 04:02 PM 2/21/97 +0000, you wrote:
>>     Hi there
>>
>>     Trafic is getting a bit much for my poor mailbox so I am going to have
>>     to unsubscribe trouble is when I send the unsubscribe command I get a
>>     reply saying that I am subscribed under a different name. I there any
>>     chance that the list controller could unsubscribe me.
>>
>>     Its been great listening to you all Bye
>>
>
>
>To:   RemoveMELISTSERVTakeThisOuTspammitvma.mit.edu
>
>
>simply put in the main message
>
>unsubscribe piclist
>
>

It's usually a little deeper than that. After moving my provider 3 times, I
figured out you must have exactly the same email address to unsubscribe.
Why would it be different? Any number of reasons. You MUST send the
unsubscribe command from the same location that you subscribed from. It's a
security thing.



Hamilton Feltman
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Programmer and Sound Engineer
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'How to Subscribe & unsubscribe?'
1997\04\01@061834 by Dennis Frost
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Hi people.

I have a friend who would like to get onto the list & I will soon need to
get off it for a month or two.
What is the listservers addr and what commands do I use?
I have long since lost my original subscription confirmation & with it
these details.

I have tried looking through the 10 000 archieved piclist emails I have but
it is a hopeless task.

Cheers
       Dennis
____________________________________________________
S.A. email:     TakeThisOuTdennis.frostEraseMEspamspam_OUTpixie.co.za
U.S. email:     RemoveMEdennisfrostspamTakeThisOuThotmail.com
Tel:   +27 331 965125       Cel:   +27 83 2275216
Pietermaritzburg, South Africa
____________________________________________________

1997\04\01@082254 by Alan Nickerson

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Dennis Frost wrote:

 Hi people.

 I have a friend who would like to get onto the list & I will soon
 need to
 get off it for a month or two.
 What is the listservers addr and what commands do I use?
 I have long since lost my original subscription confirmation & with
 it
 these details.

 I have tried looking through the 10 000 archieved piclist emails I
 have but
 it is a hopeless task.

 Cheers
         Dennis
 ____________________________________________________
 S.A. email:     dennis.frostEraseMEspam.....pixie.co.za
 U.S. email:     EraseMEdennisfrostspamhotmail.com
 Tel:   +27 331 965125       Cel:   +27 83 2275216
 Pietermaritzburg, South Africa
 ____________________________________________________

Send an E-Mail to: RemoveMElistservEraseMEspamEraseMEmitvma.mit.edu
With a message body of: unsubscribe piclist

You send this message from the subscribed E-Mail address.
You will receive a response that will require you to simpley reply to
the
response, This is to authenticate your request.

This information is also available in the PICLIST Archive website:
http://www.428main.com/piclist/about.html

Alan Nickerson

1997\04\01@083332 by gtham

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Dennis Frost wrote:
>
> Hi people.
>
> I have a friend who would like to get onto the list & I will soon need to
> get off it for a month or two.
> What is the listservers addr and what commands do I use?
> I have long since lost my original subscription confirmation & with it
> these details.
>
> I have tried looking through the 10 000 archieved piclist emails I have but
> it is a hopeless task.

Still got a copy of my 'welcome letter'.  Here go:

To send  a message to  all the people  currently subscribed to  the
list,
just send mail to RemoveMEPICLISTspam_OUTspamKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU. This is called "sending mail
to
the list", because  you send mail to a single  address and LISTSERV
makes
copies   for  all   the  people   who  have   subscribed.  This
address
(RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU)  is also  called  the "list  address". You
must
never try to send any command to that address, as it would be
distributed
to all the people  who have subscribed. All commands must  be sent to
the
"LISTSERV address",  EraseMELISTSERVspamspamspamBeGoneMITVMA.MIT.EDU (or
RemoveMELISTSERVKILLspamspamMITVMA.BITNET).
It is  very important to understand  the difference between the  two,
but
fortunately it  is not complicated.  The LISTSERV  address is like  a
FAX
number that connects you to a machine, whereas the list address is like
a
normal voice line connecting  you to a person. If you  make a mistake
and
dial the FAX number when you wanted  to talk to someone on the phone,
you
will quickly  realize that you used  the wrong number and  call again.
No
harm will have been done. If on the other hand you accidentally make
your
FAX call  someone's voice  line, the  person receiving  the call  will
be
inconvenienced, especially if your FAX then re-dials every 5 minutes.
The
fact that  most people  will eventually  connect the  FAX machine  to
the
voice line to  allow the FAX to  go through and make the  calls stop
does
not mean  that you  should continue  to send FAXes  to the  voice
number.
People would just get mad at you.  It works pretty much the same way
with
mailing  lists, with  the difference  that  you are  calling hundreds
or
thousands of people  at the same time, and consequently  you can expect
a
lot of people to get upset if  you consistently send commands to the
list
address.

You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF PICLIST"
command
to LISTSERVSTOPspamspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU (or spamBeGoneLISTSERVSTOPspamspamEraseMEMITVMA.BITNET). You can also
tell
LISTSERV how you want  it to confirm the receipt of  messages you send
to
the list.  If you  do not trust  the system, send  a "SET  PICLIST
REPRO"
command and LISTSERV will  send you a copy of your  own messages, so
that
you can see that  the message was distributed and did  not get damaged
on
the  way. After  a while  you  may find  that this  is getting
annoying,
especially if  your mail program  does not tell  you that the  message
is
from you when it  informs you that new mail has  arrived from PICLIST.
If
you send  a "SET PICLIST ACK  NOREPRO" command, LISTSERV will  mail you
a
short acknowledgement instead, which will  look different in your
mailbox
directory. With most mail programs you will know immediately that this
is
an  acknowledgement  you  can  read  later. Finally,  you  can  turn
off
acknowledgements completely with "SET PICLIST NOACK NOREPRO".

Following  instructions from  the list  owner, your  subscription
options
have been set to "MIME" rather than the usual LISTSERV defaults. For
more
information about subscription options, send a "QUERY PICLIST" command
to
KILLspamLISTSERVspamBeGonespamMITVMA.MIT.EDU (or EraseMELISTSERVspamEraseMEMITVMA.BITNET).

Contributions sent to this list are automatically archived. You can get
a
list of the available archive files by sending an "INDEX PICLIST"
command
to  @spam@LISTSERV@spam@spamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU  (or  spamBeGoneLISTSERVspamKILLspamMITVMA.BITNET). You  can
then
order  these  files  with  a  "GET PICLIST  LOGxxxx"  command,  or
using
LISTSERV's database  search facilities.  Send an "INFO  DATABASE"
command
for more information on the latter.

This  list is  available  in digest  form.  If you  wish  to receive
the
digested  version  of the  postings,  just  issue  a SET  PICLIST
DIGEST
command.

Please note that  it is presently possible for other  people to
determine
that  you are  signed up  to the  list through  the use  of the
"REVIEW"
command,  which  returns   the  e-mail  address  and  name   of  all
the
subscribers. If  you do not  want your name to  be visible, just  issue
a
"SET PICLIST CONCEAL" command.

More  information on  LISTSERV  commands  can be  found  in the
LISTSERV
reference  card, which  you can  retrieve  by sending  an "INFO
REFCARD"
command to .....LISTSERVspam_OUTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU (or TakeThisOuTLISTSERV.....spamTakeThisOuTMITVMA.BITNET).

Gustaf

'Thanks all for Subscribe & unsubscribe info'
1997\04\02@032359 by Dennis Frost

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----------------------------------------------

Thanks everyone for the info on how to subscribe & unsubscribe. I promise
not to lose it again! (Hopefully)

Dennis
____________________________________________________
S.A. email:     TakeThisOuTdennis.frostKILLspamspamspampixie.co.za
U.S. email:     .....dennisfrostspamRemoveMEhotmail.com
Tel:   +27 331 965125       Cel:   +27 83 2275216
Pietermaritzburg, South Africa
____________________________________________________


'UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UNSUBSCRIBE UN'
1997\06\13@010923 by Claude Wright
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UNSUBSCRIBE
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1997\06\13@011927 by tjaart

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Claude Wright wrote:
>
> UNSUBSCRIBE etc..
RTFM
RTFM
RTFM
RTFM
RTFM
RTFM
RTFM
RTFM
RTFM

--
Friendly Regards

Tjaart van der Walt
RemoveMEtjaartspamspamBeGonewasp.co.za
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'suggestion as to Re: UNSUBSCRIBE'
1997\08\20@085025 by Roger Books
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Is there some way to set up a filter so everyone in the world doesn't
get messages from the list with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line?  This
seems to me to be the one biggest source of noise from the list.  Maybe
a filter with UNSUBSCRIBE cut out to those on the list and an automated
response that told the sender how to unsubscribe?

I don't know how much control the users have on MIT's list server, so
if this is impossible just ignore it.

Roger

1997\08\20@143114 by Ian Cameron

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> Is there some way to set up a filter so everyone in the world doesn't
> get messages from the list with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line?  This
> seems to me to be the one biggest source of noise from the list.  Maybe
> a filter with UNSUBSCRIBE cut out to those on the list and an automated
> response that told the sender how to unsubscribe?
>
> I don't know how much control the users have on MIT's list server, so
> if this is impossible just ignore it.

It should be possible to do something like this using procmail as a
front end on the list server address, using it to forward all
legitimate mail on to the list, and do something else with subscribe
and unsubscribe requests.

It should be possible to configure procmail in such a way that you
could:

1 Delete subscribe and unsubscribe requests.
2 Reply to the sender with a help text on subscribing/unsubscribing.
3 Silently do what the sender originally intended.

If you are getting really tired of these messages, you could filter
mail locally using procmail, or a reasonable Windoze mailer which
allows mail filtering.

I use procmail to delete junk mail here, and it works reasonably
well.  At the moment I do not delete the subscribe/unsubscribe
requests but maybe I will soon !

What I find incredible is that after a flood of messages on the topic
of how to deal with these requests which get sent to the list, three
messages have subsequently appeared on the list requesting
unsubscription !  No wonder these people are unsubscribing, they
obviously don't read the list, either that or they're brain dead :-)

Cheers, Ian.

1997\08\20@183421 by Martin R. Green

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What's equally as strange, this list is a standard listserver.  Every list
I've ever been on uses the same method to unsubscribe, it's not like
PICLIST uses non-standard commands.  Also, as is the case on every list
I've ever subscribed to, the first thing you get when you subscribe is
instructions for, among other things, unsubscribing!  What do people do
with these things?

Sigh...

Oh well.

Martin R. Green
spamBeGoneelimar@spam@spamspam_OUTbigfoot.com

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From:   Ian Cameron[SMTP:TakeThisOuTI.A.CameronspamspamOPEN.AC.UK]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 20, 1997 3:29 PM
To:     PICLISTEraseMEspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        Re: suggestion as to Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

> Is there some way to set up a filter so everyone in the world doesn't
> get messages from the list with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line?  This
> seems to me to be the one biggest source of noise from the list.  Maybe
> a filter with UNSUBSCRIBE cut out to those on the list and an automated
> response that told the sender how to unsubscribe?
>
> I don't know how much control the users have on MIT's list server, so
> if this is impossible just ignore it.


It should be possible to do something like this using procmail as a
front end on the list server address, using it to forward all
legitimate mail on to the list, and do something else with subscribe
and unsubscribe requests.

It should be possible to configure procmail in such a way that you
could:

1 Delete subscribe and unsubscribe requests.
2 Reply to the sender with a help text on subscribing/unsubscribing.
3 Silently do what the sender originally intended.

If you are getting really tired of these messages, you could filter
mail locally using procmail, or a reasonable Windoze mailer which
allows mail filtering.

I use procmail to delete junk mail here, and it works reasonably
well.  At the moment I do not delete the subscribe/unsubscribe
requests but maybe I will soon !

What I find incredible is that after a flood of messages on the topic
of how to deal with these requests which get sent to the list, three
messages have subsequently appeared on the list requesting
unsubscription !  No wonder these people are unsubscribing, they
obviously don't read the list, either that or they're brain dead :-)

Cheers, Ian.

1997\08\20@185339 by William Chops Westfield

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   What's equally as strange, this list is a standard listserver.  Every list
   I've ever been on uses the same method to unsubscribe.

Newbie!

   it's not like PICLIST uses non-standard commands.

In fact, the last message I tried to send about this topic WAS rejected
by the list server, which said "this looks like a listserver command, which
should be sent to the listserver."  So it looks to ME like the filter you're
all asking for already exists (and yet we still get messages.  Hmm.)

Matter of fact, the lists I've belonged to that HAVE put unsubscribe
instructions at the bottom of every message STILL get "unsubscribe"
messages sent to the list members.  (fools being so inventive.)

So just shut up already!  If it annoys you, feel free to forge an
unsubscribe message for anyone who asks, so that they will be unsubscribed
before they reach the "I know, I'll repeat the text 10000 times and threaten
to sue" stage.

BillW

1997\08\21@125106 by Martin R. Green

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Bill, my comments were not meant to be hostile, I'm surprised you responded
that way.  Anyway, I like your suggestion re forging an unsubscribe for the
uninformed (of course, only if they supply their return address).  It's
easy to do and does stop them from complaining in the future.  The only
problem of course is that they'll never know how to REALLY unsubscribe from
a list.


CIAO - Martin R. Green
RemoveMEelimarEraseMEspamspam_OUTbigfoot.com

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From:   William Chops Westfield[SMTP:@spam@billwRemoveMEspamEraseMECISCO.COM]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 20, 1997 6:52 PM
To:     EraseMEPICLISTspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject:        Re: suggestion as to Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

   What's equally as strange, this list is a standard listserver.  Every
list
   I've ever been on uses the same method to unsubscribe.

Newbie!

   it's not like PICLIST uses non-standard commands.

In fact, the last message I tried to send about this topic WAS rejected
by the list server, which said "this looks like a listserver command, which
should be sent to the listserver."  So it looks to ME like the filter
you're
all asking for already exists (and yet we still get messages.  Hmm.)

Matter of fact, the lists I've belonged to that HAVE put unsubscribe
instructions at the bottom of every message STILL get "unsubscribe"
messages sent to the list members.  (fools being so inventive.)

So just shut up already!  If it annoys you, feel free to forge an
unsubscribe message for anyone who asks, so that they will be unsubscribed
before they reach the "I know, I'll repeat the text 10000 times and
threaten
to sue" stage.

BillW


'Fw: UNSUBSCRIBE PICLIST'
1997\10\08@125523 by Stomp Laszls
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Feladó: Stomp László <@spam@stompspam_OUTspam.....szabinet.hu>
Címzett: spamBeGonePICLISTEraseMEspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
Tárgy: UNSUBSRIBE
Dátum: 1997. október 6. 19:00

UNSUBSCRIBE <PICLISTspamBeGonespamMITVMA.MIT.EDU>  RemoveMEstomp@spam@spamspamBeGoneszabinet.hu
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'I have unsubscribed from the list'
1997\11\17@062856 by sajjad.akhtar
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    Hi all
    i have unsubsribed from the dicussion list due to .... to much trafic
    around 100 messages daily.

    If any one have any thing to discuss please send me my message
    directly. Thanks ..


    Sajjad Akhter

    email: .....sajjad.akhterSTOPspamspam@spam@usa.net


'Please unsubscribe the user: jaudette@matrox.com'
1997\12\15@200224 by Karl Baker
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The user no longer works at out company and his account will be removed.


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Karl Baker                                              x.2360
Unix Systems Administrator                      
MIS Department                          

Matrox Electronic Systems Inc.           http://www.matrox.com
1055 St-RŽgis
Dorval, QuŽbec
Canada, H9P 2T4
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'help unsubscribe'
1998\02\05@175023 by Walter Crauwels
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Hello
can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe @ which adress
Thanks
 

1998\02\06@042120 by Morgan Olsson

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At 23:24 1998-02-05 +0100, you wrote:
>    Hello can anyone tell me how to unsubscribe @ which  adress Thanks

Send

unsubscribe piclist

As a message (in the body, not subject field)
to LISTSERVEraseMEspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu

You have to do it with your own return adress set exactly like when you
subscribed. (Will be if you have not changed your adress)

Regards
/Morgan
/  Morgan Olsson, MORGANS REGLERTEKNIK, SE-277 35 KIVIK, Sweden \
\  RemoveMEmrtspamspamBeGoneiname.com, ph: +46 (0)414 70741; fax +46 (0)414 70331    /


'How to unsubscribe or signoff this list'
1998\04\20@134612 by Michael Hagberg
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You may leave  the list at any  time by sending a "SIGNOFF  PICLIST" command
to
spamBeGoneLISTSERVKILLspamspam@spam@MITVMA.BITNET (or LISTSERVspam_OUTspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU).

after seeing four postings today i thought it would be a good day to post
this.

michael

1998\04\20@140109 by Jason Sachs

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>Reply-To:     pic microcontroller discussion list
<spamBeGonePICLIST@spam@spamMITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>Sender:       pic microcontroller discussion list
<RemoveMEPICLISTEraseMEspamKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU>
>From:         Michael Hagberg <spamBeGonemhagbergspam_OUTspamRemoveMESIGNALHILL.NET>
>Subject:      How to unsubscribe or signoff this list
>To:           .....PICLISTspamRemoveMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU

speaking of meta-list postings...

is there a reason this mailing list puts the mailing list's address in
the reply-to field? it makes it easier to unintentionally post a private
reply to the list...

Jason Sachs
Electrical Engineer

Deka Research & Development
340 Commercial Street
Manchester, NH 03101
(603) 669 5139 x327

1998\04\20@161504 by Matt Bonner

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Jason Sachs wrote:

> is there a reason this mailing list puts the mailing list's address in
> the reply-to field? it makes it easier to unintentionally post a private
> reply to the list...
>
As far as I'm concerned, this is a good thing.  With 1200+ subscribers,
it's likely that many of them will be interested in the response.

Ask a public question, expect a public response...

--Matt

1998\04\21@071115 by Caisson

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> Van: Matt Bonner <mbonnerspam@spam@SUNADA.COM>
> Aan: EraseMEPICLISTRemoveMEspamSTOPspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Onderwerp: Re: How to unsubscribe or signoff this list
> Datum: maandag 20 april 1998 22:13
>
> Jason Sachs wrote:
>
> > is there a reason this mailing list puts the mailing list's address in
> > the reply-to field? it makes it easier to unintentionally post a
private
> > reply to the list...
> >
> As far as I'm concerned, this is a good thing.  With 1200+ subscribers,
> it's likely that many of them will be interested in the response.
>
> Ask a public question, expect a public response...
>
> --Matt

I've got 2 options here in 'Internet Mail' :  'Group answer' or 'Author
answer'.
Both go to RemoveMEPICLISTKILLspamspamTakeThisOuTMITVA.MIT.EDU .  I would expect the latter to be
private mail (and have mistakingly posted private mail in this list :-( )
..

Greetz,
 Rudy Wieser

'List address strangeness (was How to unsubscribe..'
1998\04\21@073444 by n Midgley

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> > is there a reason this mailing list puts the mailing list's address in
> > the reply-to field? it makes it easier to unintentionally post a


I'm glad I'm not the only one to wonder about this. It seems to upset
Outlook terribly - if I click the reply button, Outlook crashes. For other
reasons (to do with X.400 gateways and other ghastly stuff) it means I
can't see who sent the posting.

The Hang Gliding list, to which I also subscribe, has the senders name
in the 'From:' field and the list server address in the 'To:' field. Not that
I'm
complaining, you understand.

Just thought I'd say.

John M

1998\04\21@100214 by William Cornutt

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Twice when I attemped to post a reply and used 'reply to author'
I ssent email to the person who posted, not the list.
So, sometimes it is the other way.

Bill C.  spamBeGonewcornuttspam@spam@slip.net

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1998\04\28@071713 by J.C BOTMA

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Dear friends,

Could anybody perhalps help me to sign off from the list ?

Best wishes,
George Smith.

1998\04\28@132321 by Sujay Sirur

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Hi J. C. Botma,

You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF PICLIST" command
to RemoveMELISTSERVspam_OUTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU (or LISTSERVspamspamMITVMA.BITNET).

At 13:05 4/28/98 +0200, J.C BOTMA wrote:
>Dear friends,
>
>Could anybody perhalps help me to sign off from the list ?
>
>Best wishes,
>George Smith.
>
>
with best wishes and regards
Sujay Sirur

Email: spam_OUTsirurspam_OUTspamspam_OUTgiasbg01.vsnl.net.in
Home: 604, Chitrapur Housing Society, Plot no 68, 15th Cross, 8th Main,
Malleshwaram
           Bangalore 560 055. INDIA   Tel. no: 91-80-344-3688

=================================================================
               If love is in the air, then its polluted :-) :-)
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'procedure to unsubscribe'
1998\05\11@232852 by Sujay Sirur
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You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF PICLIST" command
to LISTSERVspam_OUTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU (or RemoveMELISTSERVKILLspamspam@spam@MITVMA.BITNET).

At 12:07 5/11/98 -0400, Eric Tailleur wrote:
>What's the procedure to unsubscribe ???
>
with best wishes and regards
Sujay Sirur

Email: sirurspamBeGonespam.....giasbg01.vsnl.net.in
Home: 604, Chitrapur Housing Society, Plot no 68, 15th Cross, 8th Main,
Malleshwaram
           Bangalore 560 055. INDIA   Tel. no: 91-80-344-3688

'Re[2]: Unsubscribe'
1998\05\19@104016 by Martin Green

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    I keep seeing people recommending SIGNOFF PICLIST as the command to
    leave the list, but most list servers use UNSUBSCRIBE instead.  Try
    this:

    Send an email to KILLspamLISTSERVspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU with UNSUBSCRIBE PICLIST in
    the body of the message.  You can leave the subject line blank.

    Also, make sure your return address is set to the same one you used to
    subscribe, otherwise the list server won't know who to unsubscribe.


    HTH - Martin.


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Author:  pic microcontroller discussion list <spam_OUTPICLISTspamKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> at
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Date:    5/18/98 10:05 PM


Wow, I thought I was the only one having problems getting off this list! I too
have tried several times to get off the list but it hasn't had much effect. I
still get all those email's. But now I get them twice, one to each of my email
addresses.
HELP!!!!!
Paul

Robert McAtee wrote:

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'Why I'm not unsubscribed'
1998\06\20@032531 by Fabrizio Trentin
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I receive the messages from the list but I'm unsubscribed, why? Someone can
delete me? Tanks
Fabrizio

This is the message that I've received by listsrv:
>> SIGNOFF PICLIST
>You have been removed from the PICLIST list.
>Summary of resource utilization
>-------------------------------
>CPU time:        0.744 sec                Device I/O:      158
>Overhead CPU:    0.073 sec                Paging I/O:        8
>CPU model:        9121

1998\06\21@094547 by Morgan Olsson

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Maybe you have more than one adress (remailer etc?)
and subscribed to that adress?
/Morgan


At 17:03 1998-06-19 +0200, you wrote:
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'[OT]Re: Unsubscribe'
1998\06\23@134239 by Bob Blick

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If you want to unsubscribe, two things you need to do:

1) address your email to KILLspamlistservspamBeGonespammitvma.mit.edu, not
@spam@piclistSTOPspamspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu

2) fix your mail program, so it doesn't send html or rich text, or
whatever. Otherwise you might never get unsubscribed. This is what your
message looks like on my end:

Parts/attachments:
  1   OK    ~1 lines  Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
  2        ~10 lines  Text (charset: ISO-8859-1)
----------------------------------------


 [Part 1, Text/PLAIN (charset: ISO-8859-1 "Latin 1")  1 lines]
 [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part]


 [Part 2, Text/HTML (charset: ISO-8859-1 "Latin 1")  10 lines]
 [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file]

'HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE TO THIS LIST'
1998\06\25@163800 by Timothy D. Gray

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Note : this is sent to everyone upon subscribing.

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'HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE TO THIS LIST [admin; suggest ch'
1998\06\25@195650 by James Cameron

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Timothy D. Gray wrote:
> Note : this is sent to everyone upon subscribing.

Yes.  And I suggest that the command confirmation message that is sent
out before this message be adjusted so that people have to read and
understand how to unsubscribe before they find the instructions on how
to confirm their subscription.

--
James Cameron                              (james.cameronspam_OUTspam@spam@digital.com)
Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

1998\06\26@071333 by Caisson

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> Van: James Cameron <.....james.cameronspamspam.....DIGITAL.COM>
> Aan: PICLISTKILLspamspamEraseMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Onderwerp: Re: HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE TO THIS LIST [admin; suggest change]
> Datum: vrijdag 26 juni 1998 1:33
>
> Timothy D. Gray wrote:
> > Note : this is sent to everyone upon subscribing.
>
> Yes.  And I suggest that the command confirmation message that is sent
> out before this message be adjusted so that people have to read and
> understand how to unsubscribe before they find the instructions on how
> to confirm their subscription.
>
> --
> James Cameron                              (EraseMEjames.cameron@spam@spam@spam@digital.com)
> Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

How many times do you ('you' ment as 'the piclist-group')
subscribe/unsubscribe to this list anyway ?  I have done one of those two
once, some months ago.  I can't remember for my life what I send & where,
if my life depended on it.  So I saved my Welcoming message for later use.
But what of those people who want to join this list. Where can they get the
information about how to do that.  Only by word of mouth ....  So please,
don't be rude to people who aren't on the list already or have, mostly
_not_ on purpose, discarded their welcoming message.

Greetz,
 Rudy Wieser

1998\06\26@210840 by James Cameron

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Caisson wrote:
> How many times do you ('you' ment as 'the piclist-group')
> subscribe/unsubscribe to this list anyway ?

Frequency of task is irrelevant.  Frequency of questions asking how is
relevant.

> So please, don't be rude to people who aren't on the list already or have,
> mostly _not_ on purpose, discarded their welcoming message.

Me?  I don't think I was rude.  I'll check.  I guess you mean 'all'.

Alternative suggestion; I'm on several distribution lists, and I see the
best practices and the worst.  Add a one or two line trailer to the
messages either pointing to a page explaining how to unsubscribe, or
just the instructions.  Don't use a header line "X-Unsubscribe:" because
most people don't seem to know how to check message headers.

Where would I find data for 2SK2175 MOSFET?  Is it logic level?

--
James Cameron                              (@spam@james.cameronspamspamKILLspamdigital.com)
Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

1998\06\29@070450 by Caisson

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> Van: James Cameron <spamBeGonejames.cameronRemoveMEspamEraseMEDIGITAL.COM>
> Aan: RemoveMEPICLISTKILLspamspamRemoveMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Onderwerp: Re: HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE TO THIS LIST [admin; suggest change]
> Datum: zaterdag 27 juni 1998 2:11
>
> Caisson wrote:
> > How many times do you ('you' ment as 'the piclist-group')
> > subscribe/unsubscribe to this list anyway ?
>
> Frequency of task is irrelevant.  Frequency of questions asking how is
> relevant.

Frequency of question can be irritating. Absense of information is
relevant. (it's not the same person asking the same question over and over
..)

> > So please, don't be rude to people who aren't on the list already or
have,
> > mostly _not_ on purpose, discarded their welcoming message.
>
> Me?  I don't think I was rude.  I'll check.  I guess you mean 'all'.

As explicitily said above : ('you' ment as 'the piclist-group').

Think about this : You are a newling somewhere and you ask some of the
other people (who are already the for some time) where you can take a
leak.You don't get any answer.  Would you think that is rude ?   Would you
think it is rude to get an answer like 'the guys before you asked the same
question, I don't like to tell you (again)' ?

> Alternative suggestion; I'm on several distribution lists, and I see the
> best practices and the worst.  Add a one or two line trailer to the
> messages either pointing to a page explaining how to unsubscribe, or
> just the instructions.  Don't use a header line "X-Unsubscribe:" because
> most people don't seem to know how to check message headers.

Maybe a un/subscription should be done by way of the subject-line ?  Or
maybe a un/subscription message could be send to anyone who sends a message
with less than a few (maybe 2) lines ?

> Where would I find data for 2SK2175 MOSFET?  Is it logic level?

Can't answer that one :-)

> --
> James Cameron                              (TakeThisOuTjames.cameronspamdigital.com)
> Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

Greetz,
 Rudy Wieser


'PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE CLAUDIO RACHIELE'
1998\08\14@083353 by cousens
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Claudio Rachiele IW0DZG wrote:
>
>  My company office is closed until August 24th.

Hey, Andy / Jordy looks like it's up to you

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email: spamBeGonecousensKILLspamspamTakeThisOuTher.forthnet.gr  phone: + 3081 380534
snailmail:  Folia, Agia Fotini, Karteros, Heraklion  Crete, Greece.

1998\08\14@093811 by Sean Breheny

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Guys,

Unsubscribing him won't make any difference! Remember, even unsubscribed
people can send mail to the list!

Sean


On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Peter Cousens wrote:

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1998\08\14@101544 by Nuno Pedrosa

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Well, yes. But I believe the problem is not Claudio sending mails...
The problem is that _stupid_ mail robot that someone configured in his
address. Unsubscribing will still allow him to send mails, but should
stop that _stupid_ robot from receiving mails and auto-answer every
single one.

Did I already mention that I find that mail robot _really_ _stupid_?

Well, if I don't write again, I wish you all a very nice weekend!

Nuno.

Sean Breheny wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> Unsubscribing him won't make any difference! Remember, even unsubscribed
> people can send mail to the list!

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__B//|\\P___________________________________________\' / `/______\/____
   `-' "Try and leave this world a little better than you found it..."

1998\08\14@110118 by Don

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In a way, this CLAUDIO stuff is kind of funny ! I do a lot of lurking,
and I've seen some pretty nasty comments made to people who were trying
to unsubscribe. Seems nobody wanted to let them. Ironically, now
everybody wants Claudio to unsubscribe. I havent bothered to check any
archives, and I dont know or care much about email tracing and so forth,
but I cant help but wonder if Claudio is somehow related to some of the
people begging to be unsubscribed ??
Don



Sean Breheny wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> Unsubscribing him won't make any difference! Remember, even unsubscribed
> people can send mail to the list!
>
> Sean
>
>

'How to unsubscribe'
1998\08\19@012034 by tjaart

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Tony Goodman wrote:


> Thanks for all the great info!I just can't handle all the mail.

Sigh.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT EMAIL ADDRESSES
1) PICLIST   = this list (what you are reading now)
2) LISTSERV  = the address to send commands to

If you can't grasp this, you should ask someone to help you.

To recap (again, and again, and again, and again, and again ad naseum) :

Point 1 :
You may leave the list at any time by writing "SIGNOFF PICLIST" in the body
of at message to LISTSERVSTOPspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU.

Point 2 :
The list server doesn't give a shit if you write 'unsubscribe' ten gazillion tim
es in any
number of messages to the list (PICLISTSTOPspamspamKILLspamMITVA.MIT.EDU). This is for the Piclist
traffic (what you are reading now).

Point 3 :
If you have your email address changed, and try to send commands to the server,
you will have to fool it into thinking that it was sent from you old address. Ev
en
better, unsubscribe BEFORE changing you email address.

Point 4 :
You may think your email looks snazzy with all the HTML turds in it, but to
the rest of the world, it is a pain in the ass. Not only is it only unsupported
by
half the damn email readers, it is TOTALLY INCOMPREHENSIBLE to the
list server. You can send unsubscribe command in any fucking font and size
with pictures of Pamela Anderson, you ain't going nowhere, baby.

Point 5 :
Using automated "I am out of the office for the weekend" may dazzle your
colleges with your impressive command of Microsoft products, but it
irritates and infuriates the other 99.99% when all mail from the PIClist is
returned with this incredibly informative and exciting message.

--
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Tjaart van der Walt
@spam@tjaart.....spamspamwasp.co.za

'(O[h]T[edious]) Unsubscribers!'
1998\08\19@054101 by gley John

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I subscribed to the Linux debian-user mailing list for a while, and
their list server seems to add unsubscribe instructions automatically to
the end of every message. Cuts down on the number of
errm...inappropriate unsubscribe messages. Amazingly, it doesn't get rid
of them all. Can the piclist server do something similar?

By the way, thanks to the various Linux advocates on this list - I'm
infected now. For revenge, I shall be asking detailed questions on the
subject of sendmail configuration files.

John Midgley

1998\08\19@095043 by Bob Blick

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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Midgley John wrote:
> By the way, thanks to the various Linux advocates on this list - I'm
> infected now. For revenge, I shall be asking detailed questions on the
> subject of sendmail configuration files.

You might give qmail a try. I hear it's less of a pain.
-Bob

1998\08\19@115914 by Peter L. Peres

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On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Bob Blick wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Midgley John wrote:
> > By the way, thanks to the various Linux advocates on this list - I'm
> > infected now. For revenge, I shall be asking detailed questions on the
> > subject of sendmail configuration files.
>
> You might give qmail a try. I hear it's less of a pain.
> -Bob

According to the results of a recent discussion, both qmail and sendmail
run equally well in a stand-alone dial-up host. For a nethost, qmail is
liked more by some, but sendmail/others dominate in numbers for now. I run
sendmail on dialup (look at my header).

Sendmail config files are not to be understood. There is the Installation
& Operation guide that should be printed out only for serious use ( see in
/usr/doc/sendmail/...). Otherwise, install one of the default configs
(DNS-less, expensive smart host == ISP for dialup), tweak as indicated,
and it works all the time.

If you need a working file, I'll email you mine (the one I'm using now).

hope this helps,

Peter

'[OT] Tedious unsubscribers and sendmail'
1998\08\20@042433 by Frank A. Vorstenbosch

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Midgley John wrote:
>
> By the way, thanks to the various Linux advocates on this list - I'm
> infected now. For revenge, I shall be asking detailed questions on the
> subject of sendmail configuration files.

SENDMAIL TRICK #1:
If you do not want your sendmail program to do a DNS lookup on the host
names in the configuration file, then specify the IP address in square
brackets, as in [192.168.10.3].

Frank
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'******* HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM PICLIST******'
1998\08\24@090709 by Russell McMahon

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To unsubscribe from the PICLIST:

Send a message to

                       LISTSERV.....spamMITVMA.MIT.EDU.

In the BODY of the message put

                       SIGNOFF PICLIST

The Subject may contain anything you wish (or nothing at all).

NB:        Be SURE that the address you use for this message is the
one above.
              The address which you use for PICLIST postings can NOT
be used
               for unsubscribe messages.

               If you have your email address changed, unsubscribe
BEFORE
               changing your email address - you can't do it
afterwards..

'How to unsubscribe'
1998\08\30@070527 by tjaart

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Mscaff wrote:

> How can i get out of this list ?

Sigh.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT EMAIL ADDRESSES
1) PICLIST   = this list (what you are reading now)
2) LISTSERV  = the address to send commands to

If you can't grasp this, you should ask someone to help you.

To recap (again, and again, and again, and again, and again ad naseum) :

Point 1 :
You may leave the list at any time by writing "SIGNOFF PICLIST" in the body
of at message to KILLspamLISTSERVspam_OUTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU.

Point 2 :
The list server doesn't give a sh*t if you write 'unsubscribe' ten gazillion tim
es in any
number of messages to the list (spam_OUTPICLISTspamTakeThisOuTMITVA.MIT.EDU). This is for the Piclist
traffic (what you are reading now).

Point 3 :
If you have your email address changed, unsubscribe BEFORE changing.

Point 4 :
You may think your email looks snazzy with all the HTML turds in it, but to
the rest of the world, it is a pain in the ass. Not only is it only unsupported
by
half the damn email readers, it is TOTALLY INCOMPREHENSIBLE to the
list server. You can send unsubscribe command in any f@#$%ing font and size
with nude pictures of Pamela Anderson, you ain't going nowhere, baby.

Point 5 :
Using automated "I am out of the office for the weekend" may dazzle your
colleges with your impressive command of Microsoft products, but it
irritates and infuriates the other 99.99% when all mail from the PIClist is
returned with this incredibly informative and exciting message.

--
Regards

Tjaart van der Walt
.....tjaart.....spamRemoveMEwasp.co.za


'List-wide question: Mini-FAQ {How to unsubscribe} '
1998\11\13@161655 by Mark Willis
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I post a mini-FAQ monthly to another mailing list;  It mainly contains
just a little reminder of how to behave on the mailing list
(Ettiquette), and the rest of the thing is about the 5 ways to
unsubscribe from that list...

 Is this a good idea here, as well?  It's subject line sez
"[Service-Dogs] Mini-FAQ, Rev. Oct 20 1998", so when revised it's
obvious what it is & how recent it is (& the experts can easily ignore
it on sight <G>)

 Mainly offering the idea, I could post something like this monthly,
this is a quick slash job on the Service-Dogs list & not necessarily
accurate in any way!  <G>  It seems to sorta partially reduce "Please
Unscribe Me" traffic, of course that mailing list IS different...

 Probably mainly a question for Jory?

---  Begin  ---
   HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE

There one ways that works to get off the list.  DO NOT post to the
list.  This might get you off, but is the worst way to do it; A post to
the list goes to all subscribers, is VERY slow and gets everyone angry
with you.  If %administrator% misses seeing it (and she may not read all
of every post), you don't get off the list.

Do NOT post to Mark requesting an unsubscribe.  Mark CANNOT unsubscribe
you. He will simply delete your request.

 Post to:

spam_OUTLISTSERVTakeThisOuTspamEraseMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU (i.e. EraseMELISTSERVspamBeGonespamKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU)

from the address at which you are subscribed containing nothing but

unsubscribe PICList

in the first line of the message, from the address at which you are
subscribed.  This is automatically executed and is the fastest method.
The message must contain the exact words "unsubscribe PICList", no
other spelling works.

 If you are trying to unsubscribe from an address different from the
one you subscribed from, you must include that original address like
this:  on the first line of the message:
unsubscribe PICList <oldaddress>

 If you have difficulties, or do not understand what to do, send an
e-mail message to:

%administrator% (I'm not sure if Jory et al want questions coming in!)

and they/he will try to help you.  Do tell her you want help with the
PICList as they may run more than one list!

   PURPOSE and ETIQUETTE

 This list is for the specific purpose of providing a forum about the
use, learning about, safety with, and enjoyment of MicroChip PICs. Other
support "Glue" chips are acceptable off-topic subjects, to some extent.

 Commercial posts, flaming, spamming, virus warnings, etc. do not
belong in this mailing list, and posting same could result in
%administrator% removing you from the list.  Humor happens here, and is
welcome so long as it doesn't result in bodily harm from too many list
readers falling out of their chairs, and so long as it's kept in
reasonable bounds. Humor isn't the purpose of the list, but the good
laugh provided (relevant to PICs especially) is very welcome on
occasion!

 Posting messages to the list is restricted to subscribers, who are
defined as anyone posting with a logon name and address identical to one
in the list of subscribers.  You cannot post to the list either from a
different address or if you are unsubscribed.

 [For more information about this mailing list, post to:

RemoveMELISTSERVspamBeGonespamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU (i.e. @spam@LISTSERVspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU)

with the text

info PICLIST

in the first line of your message.]

 This Mini-FAQ, approved by %administrator%, is posted by Mark Willis
monthly (early in the month), to help %administrator% out.  Suggested
updates or changes:

Post to:

%administrator%

with a copy if desired to

TakeThisOuTmwillisKILLspamspam@spam@nwlink.com

 Mark will post this with this EXACT same title [unless revised, then
the revision date will change] to help keep the list uncluttered with
"unsubscribe" requests, and will e-mail it to anyone on request.

---  End  ---

 Mark, .....mwillisRemoveMEspamnwlink.com


'Mini-FAQ work-up (was Re: Unsubscribe)'
1998\12\02@141231 by Mark Willis
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Paul B. Webster VK2BZC wrote:
>
> Mark Willis wrote:
>
> >   Folks:  I've started zapping off a canned "Here's how to
> > unsubscribe" sheet to these folks, you can ignore 'em if you want to
> > <G>
>
>   I think you may have failed to mention that sending HTML to the
> listserver is not going to work either.  Gotta cover all options!
> --
>   Cheers,
>         Paul B.

 cc'ed to Jory - Might as well keep this short but make it more robust,
to solve all likely problems!  <G>

 Ya know, that's REALLY a good point, Paul!  I will add in an etiquette
summary (Talking with Jory, he'd said he'd be happy to have me put a
monthly mini-FAQ out, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to
hear 'em.  Jory's the list god, here, of course, but he's busy - so
whatever will make the list flow smoother, I'll go for - and if he's
unhappy, I'll change it <G>)  What I have right now is:

 Subject line, something like "PICList Mini-FAQ {Revised Dec. 02, 1998}
- How to unsubscribe"

---  Begin Paste  ---
   ETIQUETTE

HTML posts are not workable on the PICList;  Many recipients on the
PICList cannot read your post if you have HTML turned on when you post.
Please turn HTML off when you post to the PICList, for fellow list
members' sake!  Many pieces of newer software (Particularly NetScape,
MSIE, and Outlook Express) start off with HTML ON as the default for all
posts.  Also, you might look for the "Address Book Card" option and
disable it (It just wastes bandwidth for most people on the PICList.)

 {MW note:  Anyone want to work on a quick web page on how to set up
different browsers properly to work with the PicList?  I just use
NetScape right now, may try Opera next}

The list is for the purpose of discussing PICs for the most part, some
humor happens here of course, keep it in balance, though, please - if
you MUST post humor to the list, please cut off all the forwards and so
on to keep the post size down, some people pay per byte they get in
e-mail, so think minimalist here.  {MW Note: Trying to say to just keep
it to the setup & punch line <G>}

Binaries should be for the most part kept OFF the list (Post a URL for
people to download it themselves, or e-mail to just those who request
it), for the same reason;  Source code is treated differently, if you
need to show a piece of code to ask for help in debugging it, but if you
can put it on a web page that's perhaps even better & is {MW Note: I
think?  Folks?} preferred.

   HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE

There is ONLY one way that works to get off the list.  DO NOT post to
the list.  A post to the list goes to all subscribers, gets everyone
angry with you;  And, you don't get off the list that way!

Do NOT post to me requesting an unsubscribe.  I CANNOT unsubscribe
you. I will simply delete your request, perhaps after sending you
a copy of this Mini-FAQ.  YOU and only you can unsubscribe yourself.

 Post to:

KILLspamLISTSERVspamTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU (i.e. TakeThisOuTLISTSERVspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU)

from the address at which you are subscribed containing nothing but

unsubscribe PICList

in the first line of the message, from the address at which you are
subscribed.  This is automatically executed.  The message must contain
the exact words "unsubscribe PICList", no other spelling works.  AND,
you must have HTML turned OFF, or the list server will NOT understand
what you're saying.

 If you are trying to unsubscribe from an address different from the
one you subscribed from, you must include that original address like
this:  on the first line of the message:
unsubscribe PICList <oldaddress>

 Good luck!

 Mark Willis, RemoveMEmwillisspamspamSTOPspamnwlink.com

---  End Paste  ---

 Mark

1998\12\02@144943 by Matt Bonner

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Mark,

A couple of suggestions/additions:
1. Off topic posts should have [OT] somewhere in the subject line, not
   [ot], not {OT}, etc.  (to keep a manageable number of filters)
2. Descriptive subject lines (eg: "Problem with TMR0 interrupt",
   not "Question")

Thanks for the good work, Matt

1998\12\05@115126 by Adriano De Minicis

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Hi Mark,

I have one more suggestion for the mini-FAQ:

- For everybody that receive piclist as a daily digest:
 Be sure to correct manually the subject line as appropriate when
 replying to a message, otherwise the reply will appear with a
 subject like "Re: PICLIST Digest - 2 Dec 1998 to 3 Dec 1998".

Adriano

'(OT) Re: unsubscribe picklist'
1998\12\06@191310 by Russell McMahon

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Presumably this was accidental humor:

In the same message:

>Please un subscribe me from piclist
>Too much email, email provider too slow to manage volume


           AND

>-----------------------------------------------
>FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com


PS - no dig at Rich intended - just struck me as funny.

'Mini-FAQ work-up (was Re: Unsubscribe)'
1998\12\06@222923 by Mark Willis

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Good suggestions from jcline, mbonner, adriadm & jory incorporated,
how's this:

 I haven't done tons of HTML, Jonathan;  I have an HTML to Text tool,
I'll play with that as we go here.  I'd throw this at my web space at
NWLink, if I do that.  (Might change ISP's eventually, so I may snag web
space elsewhere.)

 Subject line, something like "PICList Mini-FAQ {Revised Dec. 06, 1998}
- How to unsubscribe"

---  Begin Paste  ---
   LIST ETIQUETTE

 HTML posts are not workable on the PICList;  Many recipients on the
PICList cannot read your post if you have HTML turned on when you post.
Please turn HTML off when you post to the PICList, for fellow list
members' sake!  Many pieces of newer software (Particularly NetScape,
MSIE, and Outlook Express) start off with HTML ON as the default for all
posts.  Also, you might look for the "Address Book Card" option and
disable it (It just wastes bandwidth for most people on the PICList.)

 {MW note:  Anyone want to work on a quick web page on how to set up
different browsers properly to work with the PicList?  I just use
NetScape right now, may try Opera next}

 Off topic posts should start with [OT], or at least include it
somewhere in the subject line, not [ot], not {OT}, etc.  (This lets
users who get lots of e-mail keep a manageable number of filters.)

 Try to use descriptive subject lines (eg: "Problem with TMR0
interrupt", or "16F84 Oscillator not starting", not "Question" or "Help
Me!")

 Also, if you set the PICList to send you a daily digest:  Be sure to
correct manually the subject line as appropriate when replying to a
message, otherwise the reply will appear with a subject like
 "Re: PICLIST Digest - 2 Dec 1998 to 3 Dec 1998", not
 "Re: 16F84 Oscillator not starting" which was what you were replying
to, and it will fragment the discussion somewhat.

 The list is for the purpose of discussing PICs for the most part, some
humor happens here of course, keep it in balance, though, please - if
you MUST post humor to the list, please cut off all the forwards and so
on to keep the post size down, some people pay per byte they get in
e-mail, so think minimalist here.  {MW Note: Trying to say to just keep
it to the setup & punch line <G>}

 Binaries should be for the most part kept OFF the list (Post a URL for
people to download it themselves, or e-mail to just those who request
it), for the same reason;  Source code is treated differently, if you
need to show a piece of code to ask for help in debugging it, but if you
can put it on a web page that's perhaps even better & is {MW Note: I
think?  Folks?} preferred.  {Some really like the code in-line, as they
read the PICList off-line; so maybe that should be Binaries NO, Source
Yes?}

 Replies automatically get sent to the PIClist by default.  So, if you
intend a personal reply, make sure you're sending to the right
address (remove the PICList from the addresses in your e-mail program.)

   HANDY LINKS

 {What I want to have here is just a few handy links that'll get
newbies off & running, not necessarily one comprehensive list - A
pointer *to* a comprehensive list would be ideal.  I've used David
Tait's PIC links, so I put that in here, I'll definitely take
suggestions, maybe make a link to a comprehensive list?  Is there a PIC
WebRing?}

 Microchip Corporation, Manufactures PICs:
http://www.microchip.com/
 PICList Archive:
http://www.iversoft.com/piclist/ ?????.  {MW Note: I'm offline & I'm not
sure which of several URLs I have is the right one;  Someone please
remind me & I'll fix this <G>}
 Jonathan's PICmicro Meta-URL List:
www.ee.calpoly.edu/~jcline/pic-links.htm
 David Tait's PIC Links:
http://www.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/files/piclinks.html

   FFFAQ - Very-frequently asked questions

 The differences between the 16C84 and the 16F84 are, that the F84 part
has more register space & more program space & EEProm storage, and that
some of the code protection bits are inverted - and there are more code
protection options.  If you don't code protect your 16x84 parts, you
should be able to interchange most everything else - reading the data
sheets, of course, is a GOOD idea, as always, they are on Microchip's
web pages.  {From memory, corrections for better accuracy welcomed, I've
been meaning to re-read these data sheets, mostly 16C622 & 16C66 stuff
until lately. <G>}

   LIST SERVER COMMANDS

 {I'll put a quick "how to get a refcard" summary in here, just a
1-liner, for Folks needing to look up Set Repro, etc.}

   HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE

 There is ONLY one way that works to get off the list.  Please, DO NOT
post to the whole list.  A post to the list goes to all subscribers,
gets everyone angry with you;  And, you don't get off the list that way!

Do NOT post to me requesting an unsubscribe.  I CANNOT unsubscribe
you. I will simply delete your request, perhaps after sending you
a copy of this Mini-FAQ.  YOU and only you can unsubscribe yourself.

 Post to:

.....LISTSERVEraseMEspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU (i.e. spamBeGoneLISTSERVspamRemoveMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU)

from the address at which you are subscribed, containing nothing but

unsubscribe PICList

in the first line of the message, from the address at which you are
subscribed.  This is automatically executed.  The message must contain
the exact words "unsubscribe PICList", no other spelling works.  AND,
you must have HTML turned OFF, or the list server will NOT understand
what you're saying.

 If you are trying to unsubscribe from an address different from the
one you subscribed from, you must include that original address like
this:  on the first line of the message:
unsubscribe PICList <oldaddress>

 Good luck!

 Mark Willis, .....mwillisEraseMEspamnwlink.com

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'help to unsubscribe'
1998\12\08@123936 by felix centeno

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<META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hi Piclisters, I just change of ISP and I need
to change the e-mail address to the list, but I lost the Instructions of the
List, Please , How unsubcribe my old e-mail and subcribe my new e-mail
address.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>

</x-html>


'How do I Unsubscribe?'
1999\01\04@142735 by Cary Smith
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Hello,
   I am trying to unssubscirbe from this newgroups. I lost the original
email I got after I joined . Could someone help me please. Thank You.

Cary Smith

Bob Blick wrote:

{Quote hidden}

1999\01\04@150341 by mahfoud rahal

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Just send "unsubscribe piclist" to spampiclistspam_OUTspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu
Bye.




______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

1999\01\04@161039 by Wolfgang Kynast

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mr> Just send "unsubscribe piclist" to spampiclist@spam@spamSTOPspammitvma.mit.edu

Not at all. Sent a mail to spamBeGonelistservspamBeGonespam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu
containing the line

 unsubscribe piclist

And please do not send such stuff to the list, send it
DIRECTLY to the one who asked.

Regards,
Wolfgang

PIC links:
http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/wky/pic.htm

1999\01\06@070805 by Dr. Imre Bartfai

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Maybe to RemoveMElistservRemoveMEspamRemoveMEmitvma.mit.edu ?

On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, mahfoud rahal wrote:

{Quote hidden}


'[OT] How to Unsubscribe from the PICList'
1999\02\01@042404 by Mark Willis
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(List members:  Sorry but it's been too frequent lately, maybe if I go
list-wide here it'll hold them off for long enough for me to get the
Mini-FAQ polished up.  Grumble <G>)

HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE

There is ONLY one way that works to get off the list.  DO NOT post to
the list.  A post to the list goes to all subscribers, gets everyone
angry with you;  And, you don't get off the list that way!

Do NOT post to me requesting an unsubscribe.  I CANNOT unsubscribe
you. I will simply delete your request, perhaps after sending you
a copy of this Mini-FAQ.  YOU and only you can unsubscribe yourself.

 Post to:

spam_OUTLISTSERV@spam@spamMITVMA.MIT.EDU (i.e. TakeThisOuTLISTSERVspam_OUTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU)

from the address at which you are subscribed containing nothing but

unsubscribe PICList

in the first line of the message, from the address at which you are
subscribed.  This is automatically executed.  The message must contain
the exact words "unsubscribe PICList", no other spelling works.  AND,
***you must have HTML turned OFF***, or the list server will NOT
understand what you're saying.

 If you are trying to unsubscribe from an address different from the
one you subscribed from, you must include that original address like
this:  on the first line of the message:
unsubscribe PICList <oldaddress>

 Good luck!

 Mark Willis, KILLspammwillis.....spamTakeThisOuTnwlink.com

'HELP! UNSUBSCRIBE'
1999\02\28@075903 by Charlie Stubbs

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IT'S TIME TO GO.
ENJOYED THE COMMENTS FROM ONE AND ALL.
LEARNED MUCH, CONTRIBUTED LITTLE

bUT HOW THE HECK DO YOU UNSUBSCRIGBE???????

1999\02\28@084705 by Keith Weber

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-----------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe I believe you need to post a message with a subject
UNSUBSCRIBE and in the message box put your e-mail address.  If that
doesn't work put UNSUBSCRIBE PICLIST in the message box.

Keith

>IT'S TIME TO GO.
>ENJOYED THE COMMENTS FROM ONE AND ALL.
>LEARNED MUCH, CONTRIBUTED LITTLE
>
>bUT HOW THE HECK DO YOU UNSUBSCRIGBE???????
>

1999\02\28@094150 by Sean Breheny

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At 08:59 AM 2/28/99 PST, you wrote:
>IT'S TIME TO GO.
>ENJOYED THE COMMENTS FROM ONE AND ALL.
>LEARNED MUCH, CONTRIBUTED LITTLE
>
>bUT HOW THE HECK DO YOU UNSUBSCRIGBE???????
>

Hi Charlie,

Send a message to TakeThisOuTLISTSERVEraseMEspamRemoveMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU (DO NOT SEND TO
spam_OUTPICLISTRemoveMEspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU)

with the following text in the BODY of the message (not the TITLE):

SIGNOFF PICLIST


That's it,its that easy!

Good luck,

Sean

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| Electrical Engineering Student
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'HELP! UNSUBSCRIBE'
1999\03\03@003612 by Mark Willis
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Sean Breheny wrote:
> At 08:59 AM 2/28/99 PST, you wrote:
> Send a message to spamLISTSERVspam_OUTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU (DO NOT SEND TO
> STOPspamPICLISTspam_OUTspamspamBeGoneMITVMA.MIT.EDU)
>
> with the following text in the BODY of the message (not the TITLE):
>
> SIGNOFF PICLIST

 Also, if someone has real problems, just ask me, I can help get people
unsubscribed, though I'd rather everyone unsubscribe themselves.  (Today
I'm a little under the weather, feverish etc, but that'll pass.)  I'll
get to posting the Mini-FAQ soon.

 Mark

1999\03\03@050234 by Fabien CAPELLI

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SIGNOFF PICLIST


{Quote hidden}

1999\03\03@080014 by paulb

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Fabien CAPELLI wrote:

> SIGNOFF PICLIST

 .. to the list.  Curiously, *just after*, and actually haveing the
absolute hide to quote Sean Breheny who wrote:

>>> Send a message to @spam@LISTSERVEraseMEspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU (DO NOT SEND TO
>>> PICLISTTakeThisOuTspamKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU)

 One wonders whether a license should be required to operate a computer
connected to the Internet (Yes, Tjaart, I know you agree already!)?
--
 Cheers,
       Paul B.

1999\03\03@081836 by Sean Breheny

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Dear Fabian and others,

You have the right idea,but you should have sent SIGNOFF PICLIST to

RemoveMELISTSERVTakeThisOuTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU

NOT, I REPEAT,DO NOT SEND IT TO @spam@PICLISTSTOPspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
IT WILL NOT WORK AND WILL SIMPLY GET PEOPLE ANGRY.

Thanks,

Sean

At 10:59 AM 3/3/99 +0100, you wrote:
>SIGNOFF PICLIST
>
>
>> {Original Message removed}

'HELP! UNSUBSCRIBE [OT]'
1999\03\03@122331 by Gerhard Fiedler

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At 23:58 03/03/99 +1000, Paul B. Webster VK2BZC wrote:
>Fabien CAPELLI unbelievably wrote:
>
>> SIGNOFF PICLIST
>
>  One wonders whether a license should be required to operate a computer
>connected to the Internet (Yes, Tjaart, I know you agree already!)?

judging from what happens on the roads, this wouldn't really change much --
as intriguing as the idea is... :)

ge

1999\03\03@171757 by Mark Willis

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I'm thinking I should change in the Mini-Faq from:

> Send a message to TakeThisOuTLISTSERVTakeThisOuTspamRemoveMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU (DO NOT SEND TO
> spam_OUTPICLISTspamspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU)
>
> with the following text in the BODY of the message (not the TITLE):
>
> SIGNOFF PICLIST

to

> Send a message to LISTSERV.....spam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU with the following text
> in the Text BODY of the message (not the TITLE/SUBJECT line):
>
> SIGNOFF PICLIST
>
> (DO NOT SEND TO the PICList messages address,
>  spamBeGonePICLISTspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU, as that WILL NOT WORK!)

 Maybe people aren't understanding the difference between the
post-to-whole-list address, and the Order-The-Listbot-about address?

 I've seen a web page that another mailing list I'm on uses to
subscribe and unsubscribe people to/from that list, that's a possibility
here, something we could link into the FAQ perhaps (I'll have to read up
here, won't I?)

 Mark

'About UNSUBSCRIBE, to all'
1999\03\03@172953 by Mark Willis

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One problem with long unsub trailers is that they don't always get
snipped off by some posters (I've seen a few posts where someone snipped
off lots of the other posters' POSTS, but left all the unsub trailers.
Ack.)  I joked with one list admin to charge a deposit of $10 to join
her list, then people get a refund if they unsub themselves on their
own, or lose it if tossed for abuse or they ask "how do I unsubscribe?"
list-wide <EG>  (Mostly teasing Mimi, she's a nice character, neither of
us would do such a thing but it's a fun thought <G>)

 Could someone run a list-wide survey, if appropriate?  Does someone
have a program where people could forward an e-mailed survey & we could
see what was voted for?  (Just thinking about it at this point, but
knowing if the resources are out there would be good.  Talk to me
off-list, probably.  Thinking of asking "What's the worst problem(s) you
have on the PICList", and "What do you like the most", etc., and for any
good ideas.)

 A web-based FAQ and unsubscribe location would make good sense, I'll
talk with Jory later & see what he's thought of (He's had more time than
I and has far more experience running his list here!)

 Mark

Quentin wrote:
{Quote hidden}

'HELP! UNSUBSCRIBE [OT]'
1999\03\03@215705 by Gerhard Fiedler

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At 14:16 03/03/99 -0800, Mark Willis wrote:
{Quote hidden}

maybe better. maybe even better to put the addresses in lower case, and
only the DO NOT SEND TO in upper case -- hard to figure out how those
characters work :)

another idea for the mini faq, if it's a web page, would be to include a
TakeThisOuTlistserv@spam@spam@spam@... link right there, to make sure they get it right. and
it might be good to include the hint that it's important to send the
unsubscribe message from the same account to where the piclist messages get
originally delivered. sometimes this gets confuse with forwarding.

ge

'HELP! - I'm an idiot UNSUBSCRIBE [OT]'
1999\03\04@001408 by Tjaart van der Walt

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Mark Willis wrote:
>
> I'm thinking I should change in the Mini-Faq from:
>
> > Send a message to TakeThisOuTLISTSERVspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU (DO NOT SEND TO
> > KILLspamPICLISTKILLspamspamspamBeGoneMITVMA.MIT.EDU)
> >
> > with the following text in the BODY of the message (not the TITLE):
> >
> > SIGNOFF PICLIST
>

>   I've seen a web page that another mailing list I'm on uses to
> subscribe and unsubscribe people to/from that list, that's a possibility
> here, something we could link into the FAQ perhaps (I'll have to read up
> here, won't I?)
>
>   Mark

I would gladly post such a FAQ, and (un)subscribing
form on my web page.

--
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1999\03\04@061432 by Alan Nickerson

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There are SUBSCRIBE  and UNSUBSCRIBE instructions on the PICList Web Archive
page at http://www.iversoft.com/piclist/about.html

Alan

{Original Message removed}

1999\03\04@094929 by Dave Evans

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I feel that a lot of the improperly addressed
unsubscribe messages are not from people
who entered the wrong address.

They merely clicked on "reply" in a
message that they had received from
the list.

Perhaps a specific warning that this
won't work would be appropriate, along
with the other messages that have
been suggested.



Dave
EraseMEdave.evansRemoveMEspam@spam@dlcc.com

> {Original Message removed}

1999\03\04@150634 by Gerhard Fiedler

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At 06:13 03/04/99 -0500, Alan Nickerson wrote:
>There are SUBSCRIBE  and UNSUBSCRIBE instructions on the PICList Web Archive
>page at http://www.iversoft.com/piclist/about.html

this -- or any other faq -- doesn't or wouldn't help much if the link to
the faq is not appended to each message sent to the list, i guess.

ge

'Instead of unsubscribe miniFAQ'
1999\03\04@182522 by Snail Instruments

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I have noticed, that some people, despite of how many times they received
detailed unsubscribe instructions, no matter how the listserv address is
capitalized, they know the only action - press the replay button.

So I have tried one trick - to setup my own return address as
RemoveMElistservspamspamEraseMEmitvma.mit.edu for a moment and send an e-mail with unsubscribe
instructions to the poor man who asks for help. The mail has listserv
address in the Reply to field, so if the recipients only hits the reply
button, the address is already correct. Just don't forget to set it back for
other mail. Of course you have to send it directly and not thru the list.

Hopefuly this action may help to keep the unnecessary traffic down, or did I
overlooked something ?

Josef

'HELP! UNSUBSCRIBE [OT]'
1999\03\04@210448 by Mark Willis

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Worst case, it only takes me 2 messages (Initial command and a
confirm) to delete an account.  I could probably cope with that, though
it WOULD be a lot faster if people would read the directions (I'm
catching up after a really hard week last week, up to Monday on all mail
(ahead of it on threads that caught my attention.)  Should catch up
fully today (Spend much of the day on it.)

 Mark

'[OT] UNSUBSCRIBE options'
1999\03\04@211739 by Mark Willis

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(continuing the thread about unsubscribes, FAQ pointers, etc. etc.)

 If we go with an appended trailer after each message, "Short and
sweet" is good (as each add-on goes to each of us in the list, for each
of umpteen messages a day.  One line would be good.)

 I'll keep reading the list manual, see how to do that/if it can be
done, and talk to Jory;  Would a monthly or weekly or even daily FAQ
pointer post, be less obnoxious, or many one-liners/day?  I'm leaning
towards the weekly FAQ pointer, 3-5 lines, maybe once a week.  I could
do that through an autoresponder type setup, (say on Netscape.Net),
pretty easily I think.

 I'll pile up options & overwhelm Jory here -

 Let's let this cook for a bit while I read the huge manual <G>

 Mark

'HELP! - I'm an idiot UNSUBSCRIBE [OT]'
1999\03\04@215547 by Bob Drzyzgula

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(I still haven't resubscribed as "STOPspambob.....spamdrzyzgula.org", sorry)

Dave raises a good point. I must say that I have often
been frustrated by the fact that the PICLIST inserts a
Reply-To: that directs all responses only to the list.
This makes it somewhat more difficult to reply to only
the sender of a message, for example.

Perhaps if the default reply-to was something else, there
would be less nonsense on the list. Here's one suggestion:
Change the logic in the list server such that, for this
message, had I gotten around to changing my subscription
:-) Reply-To: would get set to:

 Reply-To: PICLIST at MITVMA.MIT.EDU comma bob at drzyzgula.org <piclist-faq@mi
tvma.mit.edu>

Where piclist-faq would simply echo back to the sender a
message explaining various things like how to unsubscribe,
how to edit the To: line to do what you probably wanted,
etc. Then, regular posters would know what to do, it would
become more clear when you were posting to the list and
when you were sending a private response, and bozos would
simply get their stuff thrown back at them along with a
small bit of polite clue assistance.

Just an idea.

--Bob
spamBeGonebobRemoveMEspamRemoveMEdrzyzgula.org

On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 06:46:43AM -0800, Dave Evans wrote:
{Quote hidden}

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'Instead of unsubscribe miniFAQ'
1999\03\05@030031 by Tjaart van der Walt

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Snail Instruments wrote:
>
> I have noticed, that some people, despite of how many times they received
> detailed unsubscribe instructions, no matter how the listserv address is
> capitalized, they know the only action - press the replay button.
>
> So I have tried one trick - to setup my own return address as
> spamlistservspamspamspammitvma.mit.edu for a moment and send an e-mail with unsubscribe
> instructions to the poor man who asks for help. The mail has listserv
> address in the Reply to field, so if the recipients only hits the reply
> button, the address is already correct. Just don't forget to set it back for
> other mail. Of course you have to send it directly and not thru the list.
>
> Hopefuly this action may help to keep the unnecessary traffic down, or did I
> overlooked something ?

I reckon it is a great idea! I wonder if one can do this automatically?
Is there anyone who can set up their mailer to reply to such
persons directly with the listserver as return address, a blank subject line,
and the body :

SIGNOFF PICLIST

Hit reply and send back

This should cut back on the traffic.
Josef, you are a genius!

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'[OT] UNSUBSCRIBE options'
1999\03\05@091421 by Roger Shane

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I'm on another list that assigns a seperate unsubscribe address for each
person and, I'm sure, filters of some sort to implement automatically...my
footer is:

---
You are currently subscribed to treatment as: spamBeGonerogerspamwnet.net.th
To unsubscribe send a blank email to
EraseMEleave-treatment-3447GEraseMEspamlistserv.waternet.com


Don't know if this is feasible/useable here or not, just my 2 baht 50
satangs worth.

Regards/Roger, in Bangkok
----------
From:   Mark Willis[SMTP:spamBeGonemwillisspam_OUTspam.....NWLINK.COM]
Sent:   Friday, March 05, 1999 9:16 AM
To:     spamPICLISTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject:        [OT] UNSUBSCRIBE options

(continuing the thread about unsubscribes, FAQ pointers, etc. etc.)

 If we go with an appended trailer after each message, "Short and
sweet" is good (as each add-on goes to each of us in the list, for each
of umpteen messages a day.  One line would be good.)

 I'll keep reading the list manual, see how to do that/if it can be
done, and talk to Jory;  Would a monthly or weekly or even daily FAQ
pointer post, be less obnoxious, or many one-liners/day?  I'm leaning
towards the weekly FAQ pointer, 3-5 lines, maybe once a week.  I could
do that through an autoresponder type setup, (say on Netscape.Net),
pretty easily I think.

 I'll pile up options & overwhelm Jory here -

 Let's let this cook for a bit while I read the huge manual <G>

 Mark





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1999\03\05@092521 by Tjaart van der Walt

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Mark Willis wrote:
>
> (continuing the thread about unsubscribes, FAQ pointers, etc. etc.)
>
>   If we go with an appended trailer after each message, "Short and
> sweet" is good (as each add-on goes to each of us in the list, for each
> of umpteen messages a day.  One line would be good.)
>
>   I'll keep reading the list manual, see how to do that/if it can be
> done, and talk to Jory;  Would a monthly or weekly or even daily FAQ
> pointer post, be less obnoxious, or many one-liners/day?  I'm leaning
> towards the weekly FAQ pointer, 3-5 lines, maybe once a week.  I could
> do that through an autoresponder type setup, (say on Netscape.Net),
> pretty easily I think.
>
>   I'll pile up options & overwhelm Jory here -
>
>   Let's let this cook for a bit while I read the huge manual <G>

It is a good idea Mark but - these, uhm, persons who send the
offending unsubscribe messages to the list, can't even read
the 'To:' address on their mailers, so there is no reason to
beleive they would read any of the FAQ messages at all.

Do you know if it is possible to set up a mailer to check for
the keyword 'unsubscribe', and then :
1) Change its own reply-to address to listserv (this is the hard part, I suppose)
2) Have no subject line
3) Have UNSUBSCRIBE PICLIST in the body, and if the list server will ignore it,
  also contain something like "Hit reply - you will get a second confirmation message"
4) Change its own reply-to address back

Ideally, we could also add a few profanities, but we could leave that for now ;)

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1999\03\05@142937 by Gerhard Fiedler

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At 14:17 03/05/99 +0200, Tjaart van der Walt wrote:
>Do you know if it is possible to set up a mailer to check for
>the keyword 'unsubscribe', and then :
>1) Change its own reply-to address to listserv (this is the hard part, I
>suppose)
>2) Have no subject line
>3) Have UNSUBSCRIBE PICLIST in the body, and if the list server will ignore
>it,
>   also contain something like "Hit reply - you will get a second
>confirmation message"
>4) Change its own reply-to address back

i don't know about the list server, but with my email client this would
(almost) be possible, if i understand you correctly. the tough part for an
email client is not to put in the reply-to header (i can do that, and put
in there whatever i want), but to reply only to the "offender". this seems
to be beyond the scope of most normal email client filters.

ge

1999\03\05@161509 by Mark Willis

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Tjaart van der Walt wrote:
>
> Mark Willis wrote:
> >
> > (continuing the thread about unsubscribes, FAQ pointers, etc. etc.)
> > <snipped>
> >   Let's let this cook for a bit while I read the huge manual <G>
>
> It is a good idea Mark but - these, uhm, persons who send the
> offending unsubscribe messages to the list, can't even read
> the 'To:' address on their mailers, so there is no reason to
> beleive they would read any of the FAQ messages at all.
>
> Do you know if it is possible to set up a mailer to check for
> the keyword 'unsubscribe', and then :
> 1) Change its own reply-to address to listserv (this is the hard part, I suppo
se)
> 2) Have no subject line
> 3) Have UNSUBSCRIBE PICLIST in the body, and if the list server will ignore it
,
>    also contain something like "Hit reply - you will get a second confirmation
message"
> 4) Change its own reply-to address back
>
> Ideally, we could also add a few profanities, but we could leave that for now
;)
>
> --
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> Tjaart van der Walt        X  ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN
> KILLspamtjaartspamwasp.co.za  / \ AGAINST HTML MAIL

 I don't think the Subject line being blank is a necessity at all.  I
think it just plain is IGNORED (I've put a copy of the text body in the
subject line, a number of times, on various mailing engines & had zero
problems.  Ignored is ignored is ignored <G>)  I'll read the manual on
that to check.

 It's going to take until Monday for me to get a chance to read the
manual (I'll take ALL DAY today to get my inbox read at this rate!) and
there are a few other things going on (Turns out my ISP is, knowingly or
not, harboring a company that sells SPAMware, if they're going to keep
doing that I'll be moving to another ISP by Monday or so, I'm hoping
they just nuke them.)  And today's Rent day (Probably ought to go handle
that! <G>)

 I've set up a smaller group on an e-mail, we can all discuss this off
the list somewhat I suppose, to not flood those who aren't interested.
I'll catch up today on everything.  I thought of something like that in
the message off-group already, but until I read the manual I'll not know
what the mail list server CAN do, or if it'd be better to do something
else in parallel (I have, Um, "MANY" computers here, it'd be easy enough
to have one set up a proposed e-mail for me, quoting the person who
posted any mail with "Unsub" or "Signoff" or whatever in the subject or
text, running NetTamer or something, and I could just hit Send or
Delete, on one of the tiny Siig 286's I have here.  Or an old 386 or 486
or spare slower Pentium.)

 Mark

1999\03\05@161513 by Mark Willis

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Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
{Quote hidden}

 No software engineers on the list, are there?  <EG>

 I suspect something is out there under Linux to do just that, need to
go look!

 Mark

1999\03\05@170121 by Alan King

picon face
 Unsubscribe is a pretty useless word in Piclist context.  Why not just
have the list look through the messages coming in, and if unsubscribe is
anywhere in it, remove that email address from the list.
 The list is checking at least part of the message for dupes anyway, so
looking for that shouldn't add too much.  Would also instantly kill all
the unsubscribe discussions! ;)  If I were a betting man, (Ha, $100
anyone?) I'd put money on the people who want to be on the list figuring
out how to get back on (and avoiding the word 'unsubscribe'!) working a
lot better than people who don't have a clue figuring out how to get
off.  No redirecting or any other complicated crap, just SIGNOFF PICLIST
everyone who sends a mail with unsubscribe anywhere in it..
Alan



Mark Willis wrote:
>
> Tjaart van der Walt wrote:
> >
> > Mark Willis wrote:
> > It is a good idea Mark but - these, uhm, persons who send the
> > offending unsubscribe messages to the list, can't even read
> > the 'To:' address on their mailers, so there is no reason to
> > beleive they would read any of the FAQ messages at all.

'HELP! UNSUBSCRIBE [OT]'
1999\03\06@171921 by Mark Willis

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Adriano De Minicis wrote:
{Quote hidden}

 The other thing (if we do it like the one list done this way) is that
the message could include a rev. level, so each time it changes, even
the experienced people know (they could choose to filter ising a
"contains" versus "is" rule, if they didn't want to read 'em, but if we
put administrativa in there, new subscribers would have a chance etc.,
and the experienced users probably "should" check each new revision out,
to know what's changed?)

 Now, if I can get to reading the manual <G>

 Mark

1999\03\06@175534 by Gerhard Fiedler

picon face
At 14:18 03/06/99 -0800, Mark Willis wrote:
>  The other thing (if we do it like the one list done this way) is that
>the message could include a rev. level, so each time it changes, even
>the experienced people know (they could choose to filter ising a
>"contains" versus "is" rule, if they didn't want to read 'em, but if we
>put administrativa in there, new subscribers would have a chance etc.,
>and the experienced users probably "should" check each new revision out,
>to know what's changed?)

yes, that's good. maybe check also into a combination of previously
proposed procedures: everybody who sends something containing "unsubscribe"
to the piclist, gets automatically a copy of the faq sent to him (rather
than unsubscribed), with the listserv address in the reply-to header (and
containing a mailto link within the message, and ... geez, the "internet
license" idea really looks attractive :).

ge

'[OT] UNSUBSCRIBE options'
1999\03\07@150815 by Dwayne Reid

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>Do you know if it is possible to set up a mailer to check for
>the keyword 'unsubscribe', and then :
>1) Change its own reply-to address to listserv (this is the hard part, I
suppose)
>2) Have no subject line
>3) Have UNSUBSCRIBE PICLIST in the body, and if the list server will ignore
it,

** insert a line with the word 'END' in it.  Then the following lines can
contain all the informative stuff.

>   also contain something like "Hit reply - you will get a second
confirmation message"


Dwayne Reid   <dwaynerspamspam@spam@planet.eon.net>
Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd    Edmonton, AB, CANADA
(403) 489-3199 voice          (403) 487-6397 fax

Celebrating 15 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 1999)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address.
My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive
unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial
email.

'I'm sorry please unsubscribe me .'
1999\03\09@070859 by Amr Ahmed A.

picon face
Hi All,

I'm very sorry please unsubscribe me from this PICLIST
i found these cracks in the net ,i say that i can share it with
the other

i will stop sending these massegs

SORRY
AMR
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______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

'Instead of unsubscribe miniFAQ'
1999\03\11@072721 by paulb

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Hello Tjaart.

> Is there anyone who can set up their mailer to reply to such
> persons directly with the listserver as return address, a blank
> subject line, and the body :

> SIGNOFF PICLIST

> Hit reply and send back

 How is this supposed to work?  The reply would be "quoted" with a ">"
sign just as I have quoted you above, and would mean nothing to the
listserver.

 It is very tricky to teach someone who doesn't understand how dumb
they are!  *That's* the challenge!
--
 Cheers,
       Paul B.

1999\03\11@080639 by Tjaart van der Walt

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"Paul B. Webster VK2BZC" wrote:
>
> Hello Tjaart.
>
> > Is there anyone who can set up their mailer to reply to such
> > persons directly with the listserver as return address, a blank
> > subject line, and the body :
>
> > SIGNOFF PICLIST
>
> > Hit reply and send back
>
>   How is this supposed to work?  The reply would be "quoted" with a ">"
> sign just as I have quoted you above, and would mean nothing to the
> listserver.

I have posted an automatic subscribe/unsubscribe "mailto" link on my page :
http://www.wasp.co.za/~tjaart/piclist.html
Step one : Click & send.
Step two : Get confirmation request from server. reply 'OK' and send.

>
>   It is very tricky to teach someone who doesn't understand how dumb
> they are!  *That's* the challenge!
Remote assault by email would be much more satisfying.
Step one : Click button
Step two : Download .wav file of screams.
Maybe I'll write a java application <G>.....

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'[PicList] Quarterly Unsubscribe proposal/ideas'
1999\03\13@165035 by Mark Willis

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Having looked up the "How to make the PICList pop out data to everyone
on the list" data in the manuals, we can now go to a Quarterly (or so)
unsubscribe notice to everyone - I don't want to make it TOO often, so
I'm thinking every two months, or Quarterly.

 This notice whould have the e-mail address you're subscribed to the
PICList in it, so you know where you're subscribed through.

 It'll be set so it is a "Ignore this & you'll stay on the list" post -
so when & if we do this, don't reply unless you want off the list!  But
do reply if you do want off the list.

 I'm posting this in case anyone has major objections, etc.;  I think a
posted bi-weekly (or so) "Mini-FAQ" pointer is still a good idea
(Something like "Here's where the PICList Mini-FAQ resides: http : //
blah blah blah" <G> though with a real URL not a mangled one.)  A quick
one-liner, with a pointer to the Mini-FAQ, which'd have pointers to
Tjaarts' "How to unsubscribe/subscribe" etc. info etc. etc. <G>  (Might
incorporate Tjaarts' code inline?  Maybe volunteer him to do the whole
thing?  <EG>)

 Anyways, any major objections/problems/etc with this?  I'm thinking of
having it first fire off on 4/1, then however often sounds best from
there.  4/1 sounds really appropriate for this, somehow, but maybe I
should plan this on 3/29 or something instead lest it be taken wrong...

 Mark

1999\03\14@180422 by Dwayne Reid

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face
Mark Willis wrote:

>Having looked up the "How to make the PICList pop out data to everyone
>on the list" data in the manuals, we can now go to a Quarterly (or so)
>unsubscribe notice to everyone - I don't want to make it TOO often, so
>I'm thinking every two months, or Quarterly.
>
>  This notice whould have the e-mail address you're subscribed to the
>PICList in it, so you know where you're subscribed through.
>
>  It'll be set so it is a "Ignore this & you'll stay on the list" post
>so when & if we do this, don't reply unless you want off the list!  But
>do reply if you do want off the list.

For what its worth, the STAMPS list sends their 'BOING' message every
weekend.  If it bounces or if the recipient replies to that message, the
recipient is automatically unsubscribed.

>From my point of view, once a week is just fine.  Just be sure that it is
set as you describe (ignore / delete this message and all is well).

Just one person's opinion.

dwayne


Dwayne Reid   <@spam@dwaynerspamplanet.eon.net>
Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd    Edmonton, AB, CANADA
(403) 489-3199 voice          (403) 487-6397 fax

Celebrating 15 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 1999)

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Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address.
My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive
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email.


'[OT] Unsubscribe'
1999\11\01@235001 by Peter Schultz
flavicon
face
Hi,
Please tell me the listserver address.
Thank you,
PeterS


'RV: UNSUBSCRIBE"""'
1999\12\21@100333 by Mauricio Jancic
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please, to "unsubscribe"  refer to http://www.piclist.com and have a look at the listserv commands.

       Mauricio

-----Mensaje original-----
De:     Silicon Freak [SMTP:siliconfreakRemoveMEspamPD.JARING.MY]
Enviado el:     Martes, 21 de Diciembre de 1999 11:15 a.m.
Para:   spamPICLISTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
Asunto: UNSUBSCRIBE

UNSUBCRIBE

1999\12\21@211751 by Mauricio Jancic

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-----Mensaje original-----
De:     Mauricio Jancic [SMTP:mrjancicspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTsion.com]
Enviado el:     Martes, 21 de Diciembre de 1999 11:53 a.m.
Para:   'spam_OUTsiliconfreak@spam@spamRemoveMEpd.jaring.my'; 'piclist'
Asunto: RE: UNSUBSCRIBE

please, to  [Mauricio Jancic]  " unsubscribe refer to http://www.piclist.com and have a look at the listserv commands.

       Mauricio

-----Mensaje original-----
De:     Silicon Freak [SMTP:spamsiliconfreakspamspamPD.JARING.MY]
Enviado el:     Martes, 21 de Diciembre de 1999 11:15 a.m.
Para:   @spam@PICLISTspam_OUTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
Asunto: UNSUBSCRIBE

[Mauricio Jancic]  " UNSUBCRIBE [Mauricio Jancic]  "


'[OT]how to unsubscribe'
2000\06\05@104219 by Soon Lee
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Sorry Guys
got to mial here but i forget how to unsubscribe. please kindly help me
Thanks

2000\06\05@122437 by Soon Lee

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Sorry Guys
got to mail here but i forget how to unsubscribe. please kindly help me
Thanks

2000\06\05@123919 by Soon Lee

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Sorry Guys
got to mial here but i forget how to unsubscribe. please kindly help me
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2000\06\05@124130 by jamesnewton

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Wow. First one of these in a while....

see
http://www.piclist.com

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 07:41
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Subject: [PICLIST] [OT]how to unsubscribe


Sorry Guys
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'[PICLIST] I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE----How do I do?'
2002\03\04@150704 by geci
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2002\03\04@152750 by Mark Skeels

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2002\03\04@165224 by Chris Loiacono

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I don't think he's going to want to buy a mug.
This was the guy that didn't want to buy a book to read it and learn how to
do what he wanted, he wanted the list to do everything for him,...
Now he want's someone to tell him how to unsubscribe!

What was that acronym?......RTM, DIY, etc...



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>I want to be out the list...how do I do????.
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2002\03\04@201910 by Dale Botkin

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We've ***GOT*** to get that on the web site FAQ page!!!  8-)

Not that anyone would ever read it before asking on the list how to
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2002\03\04@204425 by Jon Baker

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> We've ***GOT*** to get that on the web site FAQ page!!!  8-)

> On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, David Bengtson wrote:

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2002\03\04@204916 by Fowler, Paul B.

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What will really tick off those who want to unsubscribe is that you
just like in most the other postings, you missed a step.

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2002\03\04@231033 by Rudy Rudy

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Hmmm...  interesting!!!  But how about if I want to UNSUBSCRIBLE, do I
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2002\03\04@231621 by Chris Loiacono

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You can answer that yourself:
Do you follow the same steps as anybody else at anything?

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2002\03\04@234912 by Dale Botkin

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> > But really, I would like to extend my sincere apology to Mr Ciorciari.
> > I was a little annnoyed, but I never intended him to become
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You'll have to do it via email, he apparently figured it out about 20
seconds after sending the email in question and got himself unsubscribed.

8-)

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2002\03\04@235359 by Chris Loiacono

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2002\03\05@013929 by Matt Pobursky

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On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:18:13 -0600, Dale Botkin wrote:
>We've ***GOT*** to get that on the web site FAQ page!!!  8-)
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>Not that anyone would ever read it before asking on the list how
>to unsubscribe, of course.  Did you know that most incompetent
>people are not capable of understanding that they're
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>

That reminds me of a question...

Why do politicians think passing new laws will prevent crime?
After all, "law abiding citizens" are by definition, ummm... law
abiding.

Whereas criminals on the other hand, aren't -- and by definition
ignore the law...

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2002\11\03@212418 by Jinx
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Sigh...    :>

> Sigh...
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2002\11\05@194249 by Barry Gershenfeld

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Drat! It's spelled correctly!
Now what do we do??
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2003\09\01@050045 by Joe McCauley
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Not having gotten any mail from the list for several days, I cheched my
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The following is what I got back

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Now I know I did not set the NOMAIL option. Has this happened to anyone else
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'[ADMIN:] UNSUBSCRIBED?'
2004\01\30@060044 by Jonathan Johnson
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G'Day mate,
It appears I was unsub'd sometime last night I think.(no friday posts)

I was just wondering if there was any prob with my mail server?

Bounces? or anything like that?


Cheers,

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'[OT:] unsubscribe'
2004\03\03@135427 by James Newton, Host
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source= http://www.piclist.com/piclist/2004/03/03/114412a.txt?

Sorry Jeff, you don't get away that easy.

To leave the PICList you have to offer good advice for a long time but with
a really lousy attitude and call people names despite repeated warnings to
be polite.

Or join the list and troll up a flame war your first day.

Or piss and moan about how the list would go out of business if it were a
company (when it obviously isn't).

Or use a single incident to claim that all women are inferior.

Something like that is required...

...or you could buy a T-Shirt with the instructions on it.

<GRIN>

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2004\03\03@141543 by Russell McMahon

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> To leave the PICList you have to ....

Or get terminally annoyed at all the other people doing things to try and
get themselves off the list.

Or .....

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2004\03\03@153959 by Mike

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Sorry Jeff, you don't get away that easy. To leave the PICList you have to
offer good advice for a long time but with a really lousy attitude and call
people names despite repeated warnings to be polite. Or join the list and troll
up a flame war your first day. Or piss and moan about how the list would go
out of business if it were a company (when it obviously isn't). Or use a single
incident to claim that all women are inferior. Something like that is required...
...or you could buy a T-Shirt with the instructions on it. <GRIN>


ROFL. You must mean the list of commands to send LISTSERV. I think Jeff
should just send the command to receive digest versions in text (or just shut
off the mail) and browse the online archived list whenever he wants.

Mike

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2004\03\03@170704 by Carlos Marcano

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From: James Newton, Host


>Sorry Jeff, you don't get away that easy.

>To leave the PICList you have to offer good advice for a long time but with
>a really lousy attitude and call people names despite repeated warnings to
>be polite.

>Or join the list and troll up a flame war your first day.

>Or piss and moan about how the list would go out of business if it were a
>company (when it obviously isn't).

>Or use a single incident to claim that all women are inferior.

>Something like that is required...

>...or you could buy a T-Shirt with the instructions on it.

  Hard day/week/month, James?

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2004\03\03@174850 by James Newton, Host

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Just a twisted sense of humor.

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Subject: Re: [OT:] unsubscribe

From: James Newton, Host


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  Hard day/week/month, James?

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2004\03\03@191311 by James Newton, Host

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Mike  says:
> ...browse the online archived list...

Any complaints, suggestions, or questions about the piclist.com archive? I
just realized that I really haven't had much feedback about it at all, and I
know a lot of people use it.

Things I want to add:
1. Ability to go to the next message by clicking on the first link in the
message window.

2. Ability to reply without the nasty little interface between the browser
and email client.

3. Ability to rate posts (perhaps a few links right at the start that all
take you to the next message, but rate this one differently?)

4. Ability to filter out or sort posts based on prior rating. Especially in
the search.

5. Tracking posters by average rating of their posts. Filtering out people
who annoy you.

Let me know... This is the only archive left, unless someone else wants to
start one.

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'[OT:] unsubscribe ..mod parent up!.....(Score: -1'
2004\03\03@202409 by Dan Devine

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On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 16:09, James Newton, Host wrote:
> source= http://www.piclist.com/piclist/2004/03/03/153959a.txt?

> 3. Ability to rate posts (perhaps a few links right at the start that all
> take you to the next message, but rate this one differently?)
>
> 4. Ability to filter out or sort posts based on prior rating. Especially in
> the search.
>
> 5. Tracking posters by average rating of their posts. Filtering out people
> who annoy you.
>
> Let me know... This is the only archive left, unless someone else wants to
> start one.
>
I'm enjoying all of this, cheers to the funny unsubscribe thread...



I like the idea of moderation based upon feedback from a random
selection of readers, perhaps you could incorporate some slash (slashdot
like automatic somthing-or-other) like elements on the threads.

The list could sorta police itself based on reader "juror duty"...  I
think that the back-end codebase for a web setup is open, graft in some
new headings/images and install on server....(fine print, big pipe
required)

Moderation "can" be fun....As an author, if you had a really bad
history, you'd be posting from a -1 score right off the bat, readers
could filter messages based upon score (i.e.: don't show me troll msgs
or one-day flame starters...).


Moderation totals:-1, Informative

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2004\03\03@203410 by Mark Jones

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Well, I'm a dick.  I have lamented not having a digest form every day while
cleaning up my jam packed email.  Guess I should have read the FAQ huh?
Right there plain as day.

Thank you Mike for pointing out my stupidly in such a nice manner.  Guess I
would have deserved a nasty comment from Olin for that little fopaw.  Well,
actually, I'm kind of new to listservers ... Only been using them for 4 or 5
years <giggle while hanging my head in shame>.  Ahhh yes, that is better.


{Original Message removed}

2004\03\03@204653 by Alexander JJ Rice

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On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:20:16 -0800, Mark Jones <EraseMEgrgeekEraseMEspamCOMCAST.NET> wrote:

> Well, I'm a dick.  I have lamented not having a digest form every day
> while
> cleaning up my jam packed email.  Guess I should have read the FAQ huh?
> Right there plain as day.
>
> Thank you Mike for pointing out my stupidly in such a nice manner.
> Guess I
> would have deserved a nasty comment from Olin for that little fopaw.

I think you mean faut pas or faux pas - meaning, somehting or somethings
that shouldn't or must not be done (that's what spending too much time in
france does to you). I must say in the last few years i have noticed more
and more phonetic spelling on the internet, i wonder if it a sign of
things to come, more logical spelling perhaps, or maybe a step back to the
middle ages where spelling was entirely regionalised to the point of
incomprehensibility...

Alex Rice

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'[OT]:Fw: unsubscribe PICList'
2006\09\20@131859 by Roy J. Gromlich - PA
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Sorry to be posting this here - I need to UNSUBSCRIBE this email account,
as it is going away soon.  I tried the methods shown in the FAQ, with this
result.

I read through the entire FAQ relating to the UNSUBSCRIBE action, but
can't find another way to do this.

Would some MOD please help?

Thanks - Roy J. Gromlich

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2006\09\20@133640 by Philip Pemberton

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Roy J. Gromlich - PA wrote:
> I read through the entire FAQ relating to the UNSUBSCRIBE action, but
> can't find another way to do this.

You didn't notice the tagline the list server puts on every single PICLIST
posting, then?

: View/change your membership options at
: http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist

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'[Help] Unsubscribe piclist digest'
2007\06\06@233914 by Rich
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Please unsubscribe me from the Piclist Digest but not from the Piclist.

2007\06\07@040620 by Tamas Rudnai

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Rich,

At the bottom of each mail from this list there is a link:

http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist

If you go there, in the bottom of that page there is a button [Unsubscribe
or edit options]. Just put your e-mail address in the field and click on
that button and then the next page click on [Unsubscribe].button again.

Hope it helps,
Tamas


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> Please unsubscribe me from the Piclist Digest but not from the Piclist.
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'[OT] Re: unsubscribe'
2010\03\16@214755 by Xiaofan Chen
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Add tag.

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Xiaofan Chen <spam_OUTxiaofancEraseMEspam.....gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Tech <EraseMEtechKILLspamspamspamrentron.com> wrote:
>> unsubscribe
>
> Yet another capable person leave. ;-(
> I think with more big topics like List Moderation or similar, then there
> will be more people leaving or not contributing.
>
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2010\03\16@221634 by John Gardner

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Xiaofan -

Bruce (I don't know him; bought a compiler from him once) has
been quiescent for years.

The list has gotten to be a snooze in recent years - No doubt
we need more moderation, and more Olin...

best regards,

Jack

2010\03\16@232004 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM, John Gardner <RemoveMEgoflo3STOPspamspamEraseMEgmail.com> wrote:

> Bruce (I don't know him; bought a compiler from him once) has
> been quiescent for years.

I searched within Gmail and found he indeed did not post
too much but the last one was 3 days ago (other than this).

> The list has gotten to be a snooze in recent years - No doubt
> we need more moderation, and more Olin...
>

You are of course right on "more Olin". Not so sure about
the moderation part. It must be a difficult issues for the
admins. But the other parties have their reasons as well.
I just hope this will settle down quietly.

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'[OT] Time to subscribe, time to unsubscribe.'
2010\10\26@161206 by Marechiare
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  I don't think I'll be doing EE in the near future, so, I'm
unsubscribing from this list now; still, possibly, I'll be monitoring
this list from time to time through other sources, but no postings are
planned.

Thanks for the great experience.

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2010\10\26@162830 by ivp

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> Thanks for the great experience

Bye, thanks for adding to the list. See you another day maybe

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2010\10\27@022339 by RussellMc

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>   I don't think I'll be doing EE in the near future, so, I'm
> unsubscribing from this list now

You could consider subscribing to just [OT]: :-).

You, like me :-) (and a few others) , are part of what makes the list
'more interesting' than it may otherwise be. We can't afford to lose
too many.


           TTFN*

                      Russell


* Couldn't be sure of other-lingual version which implied temporary
state with certainty - different pages translate adieu vs au revoir
differently. And ... .

2010\10\27@052602 by Oli Glaser

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On 26/10/2010 21:12, Marechiare wrote:
>     I don't think I'll be doing EE in the near future, so, I'm
> unsubscribing from this list now; still, possibly, I'll be monitoring
> this list from time to time through other sources, but no postings are
> planned.
>
> Thanks for the great experience.
>
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Will miss your contributions to the list.
I wish you luck and success in your future endeavours, bye for now.

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