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'[PICLIST] Is PicBasicPro a good compiler?'
2000\09\09@101837 by Brian Gracia

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Hello,

I found that I really do not have the time to learn pic assembly right now.
I have been looking at PicBasicPro as a development environment.  Is it
worth the $239 that they are asking.  I am a Visual Basic Programmer and
did not pay but 1/3 of this for VB6.

Also,  has anyone created a pic device that you communicate with via a PC?
This is what I want to do, so I was wondering about the serial commands.

Thanks,
Brian Gracia

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2000\09\09@105824 by Max Toole

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In a message dated 9/9/00 10:18:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
spam_OUTbgraciaTakeThisOuTspamTELOCITY.COM writes:

<< Hello,

I found that I really do not have the time to learn pic assembly right now.
 I have been looking at PicBasicPro as a development environment.  Is it
worth the $239 that they are asking.  I am a Visual Basic Programmer and
did not pay but 1/3 of this for VB6.

Also,  has anyone created a pic device that you communicate with via a PC?
This is what I want to do, so I was wondering about the serial commands.

Thanks,
Brian Gracia
 >>
I have had PBP now for about a year and a half and I think it is great.

Max

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2000\09\09@113838 by Andy Howard

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From: "Brian Gracia" <.....bgraciaKILLspamspam@spam@TELOCITY.COM>

> Hello,
>
> I found that I really do not have the time to learn pic assembly right
now.
>  I have been looking at PicBasicPro as a development environment.  Is it
> worth the $239 that they are asking.  I am a Visual Basic Programmer and
> did not pay but 1/3 of this for VB6.

Hard to say what it's worth to you. Depends on your needs and ability.

I bought a copy some time ago and still occasionally use it for quick
prototypes and small custom apps. It does most of the simple things you
might want to do very easily and quickly *BUT* it isn't any substitute for
learning assembly. Somethings are more difficult or just not possible in PBP
so you end up needing to insert chunks of inline assembler code anyway.

Learning to program in assembler language has the big advantage that it also
gives you a good insight into the processor you're using, which you'll need
whatever language you use. It really isn't difficult to learn assembler,
it's really just a load of commands that directly act on the memory or ports
of the processor. Learning about the processor and learning assembly usually
go hand-in-hand because really they're one and the same thing.

Also, assembly language is much simpler than the VB that you've already
learnt, so don't be put off be any apparent complexity, there's only 30-odd
commands to learn to cover *all* the mid-range PICs. How hard can that be?
:>
Even PicBASIC has more commands than that.

Personally, if I was starting out again I'd spend the 240 dollars on some
more hardware and a couple of good PIC books   (e.g. Easy Pic'n books and
the new edition of Myke Predko's book when it comes out this autumn). There
are several other free or cheap high level languages you might like to check
out before parting with your cash too, JAL
http://www.xs4all.nl/~wf/wouter/pic/jal/index.html, PICLite
http://www.myke.com/piclite/ and SIL http://www.kolumbus.fi/larsil/pcomp.htm
spring to mind - and there are demo versions of some C compilers available
too.  There's a huge list of language links at the Piclist FAQ site
mentioned below including several BASICs.


> Also,  has anyone created a pic device that you communicate with via a PC?
> This is what I want to do, so I was wondering about the serial commands.

Yes, there are loads of example of this kind of thing on the web, the
piclist FAQ http://www.piclist.com/faq is a good place to start looking.

This is one example of something that is very easy to do in PBP too.
There're several PicBASIC code examples at http://www.picbasic.org and at
http://www.rentron.com.













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2000\09\09@163633 by Rex's Dingo Mail

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I have been using PicBasicPro for about 3 years (started with PicBasic) and
have found it to be very effective.

Have used it for a combination of jobs from controlling freq synthesisers
(SPI commands (National LMX series) and I2C (Philips UMA series) commands).

I you are after a quick way of programming a Pic and don't want to bother
with assembly it is worth using.

Rex Pearson

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2000\09\11@092543 by Jamie Dainton

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Hello Andy,

Saturday, September 09, 2000, 16:32:13, you wrote:

>>  I have been looking at PicBasicPro as a development environment.  Is it
>> worth the $239 that they are asking.  I am a Visual Basic Programmer and
>> did not pay but 1/3 of this for VB6.

I've been a VB6 and VB5 programmer for a while now. Although I now use
Delphi a lot as it supports in line Assembly and other nice features.
If you are a reasonably competent programmer Assembly shouldn't take
more than a day or two to learn the basic of. It took me about a week
to be proficient enough to write serial comms programs complete with
parity and bidirectional data and clock lines (PS/2 style). PicBasic
is a bit like VB, simple and easy to use but not very powerful,
efficient or respectable.

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