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'[PICLIST] [EE] 3V i2c screen control'
2000\08\25@055826 by John Perkinton

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I have to interface some i2c based moble telephone lcd displays to some
pic16f84s. However the operating voltages of the screens are 3Volt. I have
not tested the lcds yet, but am I correct in thinking that the i2c will
still be running at 5v or will it be at 3v.

Also, if the i2c is at 3V does anyone have know of a suitable bi-directional
buffer for i2c to convert the data and clock to 3v from 5v and vice versa. I
saw a buffer type interface before which did a similar job before to let the
i2c bus travel long distances over cables.

Another possibility might be to run the pic at a lower voltage, but there
will be other components driven by it, including an RS232 serial line driver
which must have 5v as it generates +10 and -10 from the 5v supply current.

The circuit must be very reliable, so I don't really want to chance driving
the rx and tx to the serial driver at 3v if poss.

Any suggestions ?

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2000\08\25@082253 by Alan B. Pearce

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For the I2C interface check the Philips I2C specification document on their
website. It shows level conversion being done with just 2 FET's. I have not done
it but others have reported on this list that it is really that simple to do

>Another possibility might be to run the PIC at a lower voltage, but there
>will be other components driven by it, including an RS232 serial line driver
>which must have 5v as it generates +10 and -10 from the 5v supply current.

Use the MAX3232E as the RS232 converter. It will operate from 3V and give the
+/-10V out. Then your only problem is to see if the PIC will work at a fast
enough clock rate when run on 3V.

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2000\08\28@091245 by Marc

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> I have to interface some i2c based moble telephone lcd displays to some
> pic16f84s. However the operating voltages of the screens are 3Volt. I have
> not tested the lcds yet, but am I correct in thinking that the i2c will
> still be running at 5v or will it be at 3v.

Check it now!  Most probably it runs at 3v.

> Another possibility might be to run the pic at a lower voltage, but there
> will be other components driven by it, including an RS232 serial line driver
> which must have 5v as it generates +10 and -10 from the 5v supply current.

Use a MAX3232 or similar.

When your circuit is as it appears - consist only of PIC, LCD, RS232 and
few minor components, it is really best & easiest to use whatever voltage
the LCD requires.

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2000\08\28@131554 by Chris Carr

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If you go to
www-us.semiconductors.philips.com/i2c/facts/#levelshifting
it shows you how to interface 5volt and 3.3volt i2c busses together just
using a couple of fets

regards
Chris Carr

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