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'[PICLIST] [ADMIN]: Piclist on Usenet?'
2001\05\01@041036 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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Apologies if this is common knowledge, but I was searching through Googles
Usenet archive and found the group comp.arch.embedded.piclist which has
thousands of posts from the PIC list.  I have never seen this group before,
certainly my ISP dosen't show this one.

What I did notice is that everyone email addresses are clearly shown,
compared to the PIClist archives which have gone to great lengths to protect
people email addresses.

Is this a genuine usenet group or some kind of virtual group linked to the
piclist?

Regards

Mike

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2001\05\01@082800 by John Pfaff

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Funny you should pick today to mention this, just last night I discovered it
on that very site (http://groups.google.com/, used to be deja.com) and was
going to mention it myself.  I was looking for an old usenet question I had
posted a long time ago, did a search on messages in all groups that my
e-mail address had posted, and found several from the PICList.  Seems that
Mr. Newton's archive isn't the only place from which to mine our addresses.
There are over 8,500 messages archived there.  So if you don't want to join
piclist.com, you can go there.

- John

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2001\05\01@102928 by Tom Crane

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> Apologies if this is common knowledge, but I was searching through Googles
> Usenet archive and found the group comp.arch.embedded.piclist which has
> thousands of posts from the PIC list.  I have never seen this group before,
> certainly my ISP dosen't show this one.

It is only on some news servers - it was not created properly (rfds, cfvs
etc.) and propagation is incomplete but it is on some of the Usenet
'backbone' sites and hence has made its way into Google's feed.

>
> What I did notice is that everyone email addresses are clearly shown,
> compared to the PIClist archives which have gone to great lengths to protect
> people email addresses.
>
> Is this a genuine usenet group or some kind of virtual group linked to the
> piclist?

Its a feed of the PICLIST gatewayed into Usenet. I don't think it works
the other way - that is posting into the newsgroup feeding back onto the
list.

I know that many people on this list disagree with its conversion to a
Usenet group despite the fact that the volume of traffic surely justifies
it.

One useful halfway measure for those of us who like to keep upto date with
PIC issues but don't want to sub to the mailing list would be a mailing
list option which allows one to 'subscribe' - that is gain posting access
to the list but which would not cause the supplied Email address to be
sent mail posted to the list.

That way, we could read the PICList via Usenet, which is a more convenient
medium for reading (IMO) and for the few occasions when wanting to post,
just post to the PICList.

Regards
Tom Crane

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2001\05\01@105751 by Bob Ammerman

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NO, thank you.

Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems
(contract development of high performance, high function, low-level
software)

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2001\05\04@151336 by Tom Crane

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In article <.....010501151918.6046KILLspamspam.....mail.rhbnc.ac.uk>, Tom Crane <EraseMEUHAP023spam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTalpha1.RHBNC.AC.UK> writes:

Further to my comments below;

> One useful halfway measure for those of us who like to keep upto date with
> PIC issues but don't want to sub to the mailing list would be a mailing
> list option which allows one to 'subscribe' - that is gain posting access
> to the list but which would not cause the supplied Email address to be
> sent mail posted to the list.

In case anybody else finds it useful..., I've since realised that the
listserver does in fact have this facility. ie. send the command,

SET PICList NOMAIL

to LISTSERVspamspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU

Regards
Tom.

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