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'[PICLIST] [ADMIN]: Bouncing from Texas again?'
2001\03\21@120139 by Alan B. Pearce

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I have received several bounced emails from this mornings messages again. It
looks like the site in texas is doing it again. I wish they would fix their Beta
software!!

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2001\03\21@122206 by D Lloyd

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Same here.....

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Sorry, bad joke.

Dan




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I have received several bounced emails from this mornings messages again.
It
looks like the site in texas is doing it again. I wish they would fix their
Beta
software!!

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2001\03\21@124248 by John Pfaff

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This list is becoming Tiggerific (bouncy flouncy trouncy pouncy fun fun fun
fun fun)

(A slightly better joke IMO)

{Original Message removed}

2001\03\21@144505 by jamesnewton

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I'm sorry, but I've had it...

...From now on, I'm dropping bouncers from the list as fast as I can
identify them...

...no warning, no digest first, nothing but delete. Automatic.

...and if I can remember how, and the other admins agree, I'm going to block
people from problem servers from re-subscribing. (Mike? Help? and can we set
the message they get to explain why and how to get a free email account from
a more reliable server?)

Anyone who wants to can get a mail.yahoo.com email account and subscribe
from there. You can even do pop3 and smtp (use an email client like Eudinky
or Outhouse) if you are willing to get one SPAM from them per month. I do,
and its not a bad deal.

They also do a fair job of limiting the junkmail.

Or, for a small fee, you can have a public email account at spamcop.com and
use that for your subscription. NO junkmail and help to kill spammers as
well.

And I have never seen a bounce from yahoo.com or from spamcop.com. Running
an email server is not rocket science (I can even do it) and there is just
no excuse for these repeated problems from lame ISPs. I have nothing against
the people who are subscribing from these servers, but I can't let their
ISP's incompetence hassle the rest of the list members when other options
ARE available.

For the rest of us, the postbot at
http://www.piclist.com/techref/postbot.asp

automatically removes bounces so if you want to
EraseMElistservspammitvma.mit.edu?body=SET%20PICList%20NOMAIL> to turn off the deliver of PICList posts via email (while still allowing YOU
to post) and just use the postbot to read the posts, you can avoid the
bounce problem that way.

Sorry its gotten to be such a problem.

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2001\03\21@182319 by Chris Carr

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> Sorry its gotten to be such a problem.
>
Hey James, There's no reason for you to apologise for the
incompetence of Time Warner.

Termination with extreme prejudice of these problem accounts
gets my vote. I do not see why you should waste time with them.

Barring subscription applications from problem ISP's is also a good idea.
I've no doubt that you could produce a diplomatic rejection explaining
why the application has been rejected and what to do about it.

Dealing with multiple copies just irritates me but for some subscribers
to the PicList in other parts of the world, this unnecessary traffic takes
time which costs money

Regards

Chris

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'[PICLIST] [ADMIN]: Bouncing from Texas again?'
2001\04\02@051552 by John Lawton Electronics
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At 18:43 21/03/01, John wrote:
>This list is becoming Tiggerific (bouncy flouncy trouncy pouncy fun fun fun
>fun fun)
>
>(A slightly better joke IMO)

Tiggers don't like spam

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