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'[PICLIST] +AFs-PIC+AF0-: BROWN OUT QUESTION'
2001\10\04@113937 by Lawrence Lile

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I understand that its needed if the psu droops but does this happen that
often in reality?



YES YES YES YES.  Brownouts are caused by many events on power lines -
switching, reclosers, temporary short circuits, fried squrrels that pick the
wrong two conductors to jump between, Birds with birdbrains, other people
turning on their Dr. Frankenstien 2000 amp arc generators, and so on.  We
nearly had a recall of a product which was not brownout proof, and caused
headaches whenever  one of these events occurred.

Every time the wind blows hard, sticks, squirrels, birds, and other detritus
touches power lines.  If these sticks and squirrels are wet (usually) they
make a short circuit.  Big circuit breakers, called reclosers, are located
in substations around the power network.  These babies will interrupt the
power for a few milliseconds, hoping the fault will clear itself, whenever
Rocky tries to surf on both power lines.  Generally, Rocky is roast after a
few milliseconds, and falls to his doom.  If the recloser turns back on, and
still finds a short circuit, it interrupts power for a longer period, maybe
1 second.  Most reclosers are programmed to try a third time, and interrupt
for up to 7 seconds.  Every power company programs their reclosers
differently, for different numbers of seconds and different number of tries.
Your product has to survive this abuse.  No AC powered product should be
without brownout protection in some form.


Check my web page for more diatribes on brownouts:
http://members.socket.net/+AH4-llile/acad1.htm

-- Lawrence Lile



+ACo- For non-US readers: Rocky the Squirrel is a famous US cartoon character.

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'[PIC]: Re: +AFs-PIC+AF0-: BROWN OUT QUESTION'
2001\10\04@214354 by Kevin Olalde

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Does anyone know what is the +AH4- supposed to be in the below url?  I fixed the
tag line too.

Kevin

Lawrence Lile wrote:
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2001\10\04@220720 by Tom Messenger

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Try a tilde (~)

ie., change:
> http://members.socket.net/+AH4-llile/acad1.htm

to:
http://members.socket.net/~llile/acad1.htm




At 09:44 PM 10/4/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know what is the +AH4- supposed to be in the below url?  I
fixed the
>tag line too.
>
>Kevin
>

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2001\10\05@100048 by Lawrence Lile

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For some reason, Kevin, when I send text to the PIClist, and that text is
read by a copy of Eudora, the reply from Eudora email users comes back with
this garbled code instead of brackets.  I have pulled out all my hair trying
to fix it, and have given up.  Since I don't have Eudora around, I can't
really set up a test.  There is some magical Outlook express MIME/text
setting that is set on my computer, and my efforts to change it have not
resulted in anything but trouble and the more I mess around with them the
worse it gets.   My apologies, try to ignore it.  Aren't computers wonderful
<Sarcasm> ?

--Lawrence Lile

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2001\10\05@102733 by Bob Barr

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Lawrence Lile wrote:
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>For some reason, Kevin, when I send text to the PIClist, and that text is
>read by a copy of Eudora, the reply from Eudora email users comes back with
>this garbled code instead of brackets.  I have pulled out all my hair
>trying
>to fix it, and have given up.  Since I don't have Eudora around, I can't
>really set up a test.  There is some magical Outlook express MIME/text
>setting that is set on my computer, and my efforts to change it have not
>resulted in anything but trouble and the more I mess around with them the
>worse it gets.   My apologies, try to ignore it.  Aren't computers
>wonderful
><Sarcasm> ?
>

I don't think the problem occurs only with Eudora. I use a Hotmail account
with the Netscape 4.7 browser.

Sometimes your brackets come through as intended and sometimes they come
through garbled.

Regards, Bob


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2001\10\05@164626 by Sean H. Breheny

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Hi Bob,

He doesn't mean that you have to have Eudora to SEE the problem, he says
that posts which originate from him are OK, but when someone with Eudora
REPLIES to his posts, the REPLY has the weird encoding(which is visible to
ANY email client), which then gets perpetuated whenever someone replies to
the reply. Do I have it right Lawrence?

Sean

At 10:27 AM 10/5/01 -0400, you wrote:

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2001\10\05@170206 by Bob Barr

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"Sean H. Breheny" wrote:
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>He doesn't mean that you have to have Eudora to SEE the problem, he says
>that posts which originate from him are OK, but when someone with Eudora
>REPLIES to his posts, the REPLY has the weird encoding(which is visible to
>ANY email client), which then gets perpetuated whenever someone replies to
>the reply. Do I have it right Lawrence?
>

Thanks for the clarification.

I wonder if Eudora users can see the brackets getting mangled when they post
their replies. I use the '[PIC]', '[OT]', etc portions of the subject line
to filter emails into separate mail folders. Maybe I should add the '+AFs-'
versions as well. :=)

Regards, Bob


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