Post by thread:[PIC]Re: spam

> As I become member, I wanted to post a prototype board made by me easy > to make and use, FREE (28pin pic16,18) and I was promted that I am a > known SPAM !!! > Working with PIC from 1995. > Really difficult site. > Best regards > Joe If you want to make a fuss 1. Know that you should tag messages appropriately 2. Know that this isn't a site, its a mailing list (at least underneath all the sites that make it read like a forum etc) 3. Know that shouting doesn't get you anywhere 4. Contact the list admin if you have any specific problems

Sorry, I didn't get to the stage to write even one word when I was promted Thank you for the advise how to use am mailing list Best regards On Nov 8, 2007 5:54 PM, Steve Howes <spam_OUTsteveTakeThisOuTgeekinter.net> wrote: {Quote hidden}> > > As I become member, I wanted to post a prototype board made by me easy > > to make and use, FREE (28pin pic16,18) and I was promted that I am a > > known SPAM !!! > > Working with PIC from 1995. > > Really difficult site. > > Best regards > > Joe > > If you want to make a fuss > > 1. Know that you should tag messages appropriately > 2. Know that this isn't a site, its a mailing list (at least > underneath all the sites that make it read like a forum etc) > 3. Know that shouting doesn't get you anywhere > 4. Contact the list admin if you have any specific problems > > -

joseph gross wrote: > Sorry, I didn't get to the stage to write even one word when I was promted > Thank you for the advise how to use am mailing list Are you talking about the web site at piclist.com? If so - you're not alone, I have tried editing/posting things on there several times and have always been defeated. It's a tremendously useful resource and James et al. have put a lot of work and energy into it, so I am grateful and not complaining. There are lots of other ways to post code, and posting a link on this list will help people find it. -- Timothy J. Weber http://timothyweber.org

If people have problems with piclist.com and don't tell me what the problem is, how can I fix it? I can tell you this: The wikispammers have NO problem posting junk on the site that I have to clean up. David Carey edits pages on a regular basis. I edit my own page there (as a user) quite often and have no problem doing so. I post links and comments constantly. Mr. Gross isn't telling us what IP address the system blocked, but I would be willing to bet that it was listed at spamhaus et all as a compromised system: One that is infected and has been used to send spam. Or he happened to use a keyword that is very common in wikispam such as [URL] (piclist.com uses html not wiki code, as the form clearly says). And if you can't post something, for pete sake email it to me. It's not like I'm hiding. My email address is everywhere... Just ask the spammers. <Wanders off grumbling> -- James. {Original Message removed}

James Newton wrote: > If people have problems with piclist.com and don't tell me what the problem > is, how can I fix it? I know. I know! I think the problem is that, the times I've tried it, I just get confused to the point where I can't even explain what just happened, so I'm a bit embarrassed, a bit out of patience/time to spend on whatever it was (say, correcting or adding something small on some page), and not even sure how I would start reporting a problem... Maybe the best way I can put it is that, while I'm immensely grateful that it exists as a body of *content,* I don't feel confident that I understand the *form* of the thing well enough to work with it. Which, again, is hard to say because it's just vague criticism, and I know you put more work into it than you'd like and don't need extra vague criticism. -- Timothy J. Weber http://timothyweber.org

I have to admit too that I tried to get around the site a few days ago - something I haven't done much of (I'm on email) and it was confusing. The general idea I came away with was that I couldn't get my arms around _how_ the site was organized so I could go to what I wanted, or even know what all was there. Perhaps looking at it from the point of view of different types of user goals - forum user, file searcher, PIC person, AVR person, etc and offering quick structures for them to follow would help. I'm not complaining... Since I don't have the time to help change it, I'm fine with whatever you have. But since you asked... ;) Timothy Weber wrote: {Quote hidden}> James Newton wrote: > > I know. I know! I think the problem is that, the times I've tried it, > I just get confused to the point where I can't even explain what just > happened, so I'm a bit embarrassed, a bit out of patience/time to spend > on whatever it was (say, correcting or adding something small on some > page), and not even sure how I would start reporting a problem... > > Maybe the best way I can put it is that, while I'm immensely grateful > that it exists as a body of *content,* I don't feel confident that I > understand the *form* of the thing well enough to work with it. Which, > again, is hard to say because it's just vague criticism, and I know you > put more work into it than you'd like and don't need extra vague criticism.

The search engine works pretty well, if slowly. -----Original Message----- From: .....piclist-bouncesKILLspam@spam@mit.edu [piclist-bouncesKILLspammit.edu] On Behalf Of Dr Skip Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 13:14 To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC]Re: spam I have to admit too that I tried to get around the site a few days ago - something I haven't done much of (I'm on email) and it was confusing. The general idea I came away with was that I couldn't get my arms around _how_ the site was organized so I could go to what I wanted, or even know what all was there. Perhaps looking at it from the point of view of different types of user goals - forum user, file searcher, PIC person, AVR person, etc and offering quick structures for them to follow would help. I'm not complaining... Since I don't have the time to help change it, I'm fine with whatever you have. But since you asked... ;) Timothy Weber wrote: {Quote hidden}> James Newton wrote: > > I know. I know! I think the problem is that, the times I've tried it, > I just get confused to the point where I can't even explain what just > happened, so I'm a bit embarrassed, a bit out of patience/time to spend > on whatever it was (say, correcting or adding something small on some > page), and not even sure how I would start reporting a problem... > > Maybe the best way I can put it is that, while I'm immensely grateful > that it exists as a body of *content,* I don't feel confident that I > understand the *form* of the thing well enough to work with it. Which, > again, is hard to say because it's just vague criticism, and I know you > put more work into it than you'd like and don't need extra vague criticism.