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2011\09\03@041007 by V G

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Hey all, does anyone know of any virtual machines (VMs) for PICs? A Java
virtual machine would be cool

2011\09\03@053311 by cdb

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::Hey all, does anyone know of any virtual machines (VMs) for PICs? A Java.

If you mean Java for Pics then there is Muvium by James Caska, I believe he was in talks with Microchip at one time.

http://muvium.com/

If you mean hosted on a PC, then I don't know.

Colin

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2011\09\03@054055 by V G

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On Saturday, September 3, 2011, cdb <.....colinKILLspamspam@spam@btech-online.co.uk> wrote:

> If you mean hosted on a PC, then I don't know.

Yes, I meant a JVM or another VM running on the PIC itself.

I know some arm devices can execute java byte code directly

2011\09\03@140118 by Peter Johansson

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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 4:09 AM, V G <x.solarwind.xspamKILLspamgmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all, does anyone know of any virtual machines (VMs) for PICs? A Java
> virtual machine would be cool.

I am aware of a few projects that come close.  There is TinyVM leJOS
which run a subset of the JVM on the Lego Mindstorms CPU brick.  These
could possibly be ported to the PIC architecture.

There is also EmkbedVM (http://www.clifford.at/embedvm/) which is not
a JVM but designed to be very portable across MCUs and uses a very
small footprint.

-p

2011\09\03@161533 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Sep 3, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Peter Johansson wrote:

>> any virtual machines (VMs) for PICs?

Parallax "BASIC Stamp."
Forth.

Did you want to include PIC32?  They ought to be capable of quite a lot.

BillW

2011\09\03@183257 by V G

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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 4:15 PM, William "Chops" Westfield <.....westfwKILLspamspam.....mac.com>wrote:

>  Parallax "BASIC Stamp."
> Forth.
>

Hate BASIC and Forth.


> Did you want to include PIC32?  They ought to be capable of quite a lot.
>

Yeah, PIC32 is fine. A JVM should be able to run on a PIC32. I know there
are JVMs that can run on AVR32 (via Linux)

2011\09\03@203535 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:32 AM, V G <EraseMEx.solarwind.xspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
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>> Did you want to include PIC32?  They ought to be capable of quite a lot.
>>
>
> Yeah, PIC32 is fine. A JVM should be able to run on a PIC32. I know there
> are JVMs that can run on AVR32 (via Linux).

Just remember that AVR32 family has different class of device, the AP7
core has existing full-fledge Linux support. But it is called "mature device"
by Atmel which means that they are going to be dead. Atmel is using
ARM9 (embedded MPU) in that embedded Linux market. The emphasis
on the AVR 32bit is now for the microcontroller space (UC3 core)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVR32
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_devices.asp?category_id=163&family_id=607&subfamily_id=2138&tool_id=4116

And Atmel now does not really use AVR32, rather 32bit AVR.

Technically some of the UC3 family (say AT32UC3A3xxx family), are
capable of using uCLinux (no MMU), but the support is not there yet.


-- Xiaofan

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