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'[PIC] Trouble Programming PIC16f1503 with PicKit3'
2012\05\17@190344 by Jason White

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Hello, I just recently got a PicKit 3 and some of the new(ish)
PIC16F1503 microcontrollers. I have the PIC hooked up correctly -as
far as I can tell at least. Power, data, clock, etc. all are hooked up
to the programmer on a solderless breadboard. When it comes time to
program the MCU the programmer does not detect the device at all
(device ID 0x00), when I put another MCU [a PIC16f690] in its place it
works just fine. I've tried both LVP and normal programming modes in
the IDE [MPLABX] to no avail. Just a note: I don't have any pull
up/down resistors in place, but I don't believe their needed.

Since I'm rather new to this programmer I must be making some mistake,
if anyone has some tips or tricks to make this work it would be
greatly appreciated.

-- Jason Whit

2012\05\17@194226 by A. Sergio Sena

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Are you powering the PIC on the protoboard, or by the PK3 ?
There is an option on MPLAB to power the PIC by the programmer.

Regards,
Sérgio






On 18 May 2012 00:03, Jason White <spam_OUTwhitewaterssoftwareinfoTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com> wrote:
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2012\05\17@211318 by Jason White

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> Are you powering the PIC on the protoboard, or by the PK3 ?
> There is an option on MPLAB to power the PIC by the programmer.
>
> Regards,
> Sérgio

It is powered through the protoboard.

-- Jason White

2012\05\17@220105 by Dwayne Reid

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At 05:03 PM 5/17/2012, Jason White wrote:
>Hello, I just recently got a PicKit 3 and some of the new(ish)
>PIC16F1503 microcontrollers. I have the PIC hooked up correctly -as
>far as I can tell at least. Power, data, clock, etc. all are hooked up
>to the programmer on a solderless breadboard. When it comes time to
>program the MCU the programmer does not detect the device at all
>(device ID 0x00), when I put another MCU [a PIC16f690] in its place it
>works just fine. I've tried both LVP and normal programming modes in
>the IDE [MPLABX] to no avail. Just a note: I don't have any pull
>up/down resistors in place, but I don't believe their needed.
>
>Since I'm rather new to this programmer I must be making some mistake,
>if anyone has some tips or tricks to make this work it would be
>greatly appreciated.

I would be tempted to pull the chip from the breadboard and just mini-hook clips to connect to its pins.  Or: solder wires to a socket.

I suspect that you may be running into capacitive coupling between the CLK and DATA pins - some plastic breadboards have extremely high capacitance between the rows.

Regardless, it should take only a few minutes to try this out.

dwayne

PS - I am assuming that you didn't swap the clk & data pins on the chip.

dwayne

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2012\05\18@042108 by Jan-Erik Soderholm

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Hi.

You have checked that the chip is supported by the PICkit3?
It should be, but sometimes one need the latest support files
and so on.

> I have the PIC hooked up correctly -as
> far as I can tell at least.

Then tell us how! :-)

Without knowing more (or seeing the actual setup) I'm
guessing that you simply are doing something wrong... :-)

Jan-Erik.





Jason White wrote 2012-05-18 01:03:
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2012\05\18@070849 by Mark Hanchey

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On 5/17/2012 7:03 PM, Jason White wrote:
> Hello, I just recently got a PicKit 3 and some of the new(ish)
> PIC16F1503 microcontrollers. I have the PIC hooked up correctly -as
> far as I can tell at least. Power, data, clock, etc. all are hooked up
> to the programmer on a solderless breadboard

Do you have another 16F1503 chip that you can swap out  ? Sometimes it can just be a bad chip. It doesn't happen often but it does happen. I had a dead 24X  pic the other day and nothing I could do would make it work with the programmer, swapped it out and circuit works fine now.
Mark

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