Post by thread:[PIC] RealICE from Microchip at US$500

One of the announcement in the 16-bit seminar is that Microchip will soon come out a cheap RealICE to give the user an cheap option for ICE. It will have real time capability (better than ICD2) but it will only cost US$500. This is much cheaper than the current ICE2000 and ICE4000. The information regarding REALICE is still sparse but the following website has already mentioned it. http://www.answers.com/topic/pic-microcontroller Regards, Xiaofan

Xiaofan Chen wrote: > One of the announcement in the 16-bit seminar is that Microchip will soon > come out a cheap RealICE to give the user an cheap option for ICE. It will > have real time capability (better than ICD2) but it will only cost US$500. > This is much cheaper than the current ICE2000 and ICE4000. > > The information regarding REALICE is still sparse but the following > website has already mentioned it. > http://www.answers.com/topic/pic-microcontroller > > Regards, > Xiaofan > Very good. ICD2 has too many problems for people to depend heavily on it. --Bob

On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 05:06 -0700, Bob Axtell wrote: > Xiaofan Chen wrote: > > One of the announcement in the 16-bit seminar is that Microchip will soon > > come out a cheap RealICE to give the user an cheap option for ICE. It will > > have real time capability (better than ICD2) but it will only cost US$500. > > This is much cheaper than the current ICE2000 and ICE4000. > > > > The information regarding REALICE is still sparse but the following > > website has already mentioned it. > > www.answers.com/topic/pic-microcontroller > > > > Regards, > > Xiaofan > > > Very good. ICD2 has too many problems for people to depend heavily on it. Really? I've depended pretty heavily on it and have rarely been disappointed. There are a few "quirks" involved when using an ICD2, and there are limitations, but as long as you keep them in mind I find it to be a wonderful tool. TTYL

On 6/9/06, Herbert Graf <spam_OUTmailinglist2TakeThisOuTfarcite.net> wrote: > > > > > Very good. ICD2 has too many problems for people to depend heavily on it. > > Really? > > I've depended pretty heavily on it and have rarely been disappointed. > > There are a few "quirks" involved when using an ICD2, and there are > limitations, but as long as you keep them in mind I find it to be a > wonderful tool. > I think ICD2 is really value for money. Still I think it won't be as good as a real ICE. As a programmer it also leaves out some features. For example: 1) to go to Hi-Z mode after programming so that program can start to run 2) to control the sequence of target Vdd and Vpp Maybe this is hardware/firmware related limitations. I just tried it with Explorer 16 board dsPIC33 demo program and stepping through the small program proves to be not as fast as I want. Regards, Xiaofan

How is the explorer 16 board? Any major quirks after the change. Should I read up dspic more to know what they are talking about in the seminar? John --- Xiaofan Chen <.....xiaofancKILLspam@spam@gmail.com> wrote: {Quote hidden}> On 6/9/06, Herbert Graf <mailinglist2KILLspamfarcite.net> > wrote: > > > > > > > Very good. ICD2 has too many problems for people > to depend heavily on it. > > > > Really? > > > > I've depended pretty heavily on it and have rarely > been disappointed. > > > > There are a few "quirks" involved when using an > ICD2, and there are > > limitations, but as long as you keep them in mind > I find it to be a > > wonderful tool. > > > > I think ICD2 is really value for money. Still I > think it won't be as good as > a real ICE. As a programmer it also leaves out some > features. For example: > 1) to go to Hi-Z mode after programming so that > program can start to run > 2) to control the sequence of target Vdd and Vpp > Maybe this is hardware/firmware related limitations. > > I just tried it with Explorer 16 board dsPIC33 demo > program and stepping > through the small program proves to be not as fast > as I want. > > Regards, > Xiaofan > --

On 6/10/06, kravnus wolf <.....kravnusKILLspam.....yahoo.com> wrote: > How is the explorer 16 board? Any major quirks after > the change. Should I read up dspic more to know what > they are talking about in the seminar? > > John The seminar is just an introduction. I have read a bit the family manual and the programmer's reference manual. They handed out the programmer's reference manual during the seminar. I need to read more on the C30 manual. I still have the faulty board but I will probably fix it myself once I have access to a good soldering iron. It is still working but I need to take care of the reset switch... Regards, Xiaofan