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2006\01\23@125427 by Jack Warren

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Hello everyone.

I traded in a Christmas gift card for a copy of Myke Predko's 'Programming and
Customizing PICmicro® Microcontrollers', ISBN 0-07-136172-3.

As I read the book, I found many references to an included CD-ROM containing
all the experiments and other useful software, however my copy doesn't have the
CD.  It does, however have a PC board for a simple programmer...  I checked
with Barnes&Noble and a second copy has no CD either.

Does anyone have any information whether the CD is actually part of the book
and if not, how I can get in touch with the author?

I tried the email address posted in the book and the one on Myke's web site, to
no avail.  I also looked for the book's source code on his site, again no luck.

Any info would be appreciated.


Thanks,
Jack

2006\01\23@131007 by Scott Pierce

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I bought the book a couple years ago and it did indeed come with a
CD.  Back around the time I bought the book I was able to contact Myke
successfully although it did take him better than a week to respond.  The
contents of the CD are about 150 Megs if I remember correctly.

If you're planning on using the Programmer PCB your best bet is to buy a
kit of parts that is available specifically for the PCB.  I think I bought
the kit for around $11.00.  Be sure to download the latest update of the El
Cheapo software from Myke's website (http://www.myke.com).  It contains some bug
fixes.

Scott Pierce

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2006\01\23@133438 by Robert A LaBudde

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At 12:53 PM 1/23/2006, Jack wrote:
>I traded in a Christmas gift card for a copy of Myke Predko's 'Programming
>and
>Customizing PICmicro® Microcontrollers', ISBN 0-07-136172-3.
>
>As I read the book, I found many references to an included CD-ROM containing
>all the experiments and other useful software, however my copy doesn't
>have the
>CD.  It does, however have a PC board for a simple programmer...  I checked
>with Barnes&Noble and a second copy has no CD either.

Myke Predko books are poorly edited (full of errors and typos), and no
longer come with CD's or other items mentioned consistently throughout the
book.

Apparently a cost-cutting measure.

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2006\01\23@183146 by Bob Liesenfeld

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Jack Warren wrote:

> Hello everyone.
>
> I traded in a Christmas gift card for a copy of Myke Predko's 'Programming and
> Customizing PICmicro® Microcontrollers', ISBN 0-07-136172-3.

Don't feel too bad about missing out on the CD-ROM.  I bought a copy of the book
when the CD was included and it was as problematic as the text was (is).  Few of
the links worked so you had to search for the file in question (which often had a
completely different name from the one listed) and there was much missing material.

The book itself was essentially unreadable with the typos and missing sections of
text.

I would be careful with the PIC programmer as shown in the book.  In my copy at
least, there are some mislabeled / backwards components.

Its really too bad this book turned out so awful ....I can tell there is a wealth
of information in it, but it is an impossible read.  (At least my copy was).

Bob

2006\01\23@211524 by kravnus wolf

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contact me off the list. I have the CD

John

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2006\01\24@085359 by alan smith

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Years ago, Myke was an active member of this list, but I haven't seen anything posted on here for several years (hey Andy Warren...are YOU still around?).  At that time, he was working for Celestica in Toronto or Monteral, but perhaps has moved on and I no longer have his contact information.


               
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2006\01\24@092208 by Rolf

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I have the CD too.

100MB in total, but, it has:
MPLab, 5.11 @ 10Meg
PDF's (Datasheets) @ 53 Meg
UMPS @ 8 Meg

Really, the Code folder at 9 Meg, and the HTML Folder at 12 Meg is all
that you will find useful.

I'd be happy to send them wherever. Given that you have the book I don;t
see a problem with copyrights, etc.

Rolg

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2006\01\24@155157 by Sean C. Malloy

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I'm also using that book as a guide while teaching myself PIC programming,
and, indeed, electronics in general.

> It does, however have a PC board for a simple programmer.

There's no CD, just a PCB.  I was able to find the source online after some
searching (I think I googled one of the file names and PIC).  It sounds like
several others on here have offered it to you.

In the interest of making things harder on myself, I've chosen to use a more
feature-rich PIC (16F88) than what Myke uses in his book.  This makes the
source code somewhat less useful to me.  And the 16F88's not supported by
the free version of the C compiler that Myke mentions in his book, and I've
had to use other, less satisfactory alternatives.  The '88's also not
supported by the programmer that came with the book, and I ordered a USB one
from KitsRUs that seems to work just fine.

The book seems useful from the standpoint of showing the basic algorithms
for how to do things, but there are some frustrating bits.  Like hard-coded
delay loop constants that are dependent on how fast you clock the PIC, and
not clearly explained (206?  How'd he get 206 for the initial value of this
loop?).  Parts of the schematic drawing that aren't explained anywhere (the
most recent of these turned out to be Mickey Mouse Logic gates, which Myke
explains in another of his books).  There are also experiments that assume a
good bit of prior knowledge, etc.

Some of the things included are fun small projects, though.  Just don't use
this book as your only guide.  123 Robotics Experiments does a better job of
explaining the basics of electronics than does this book, for example.  I've
also found it useful to have the data sheet for my PIC printed out, in a
binder, highlighted, and full of notes in the margins.

I'm muddling through it, though.  I can blink LEDs, use a 10, 6 or 2-wire
interface to display text on a $4 surplus LCD, etc.  Fun stuff.

And if you come across a non-crippled C-compiler with a decent optimizer
that costs less than $100, then please let me know!  The stuff that I've
found so far is only fit for small projects that will never be run on
anything other than a breadboard.  So far, I'm resisting writing everything
in assembly language.  I'll probably break down at some point.

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Sean C. Malloy                        smalloyspamKILLspamio.com

2006\01\24@162014 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> And if you come across a non-crippled C-compiler with a
> decent optimizer
> that costs less than $100, then please let me know!

C18 student version? It tells me it will disable some optimizations, I
don't think I will care. But: 18F only.

Wouter van Ooijen

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2006\01\29@113310 by Dan Goodwin

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Hi Jack,

I just checked my copy and it came with the CD.

Regards,
Dan


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