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2006\03\28@095639 by Maarten Hofman

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Rochester, 28 maart 2006.

I would go with the PicKit 2. I've only had positive experiences with it so
far, it supports the devices you mentioned (it might need a firmware
upgrade, but those are painless), and I think it will be supported by MPLAB
soon. Of course, I'm a bit biased, as I got three of them from Microchip,
and worked with the El Cheapo and JDM programmers before (which both work
fine, but are slower and have a different range of supported components).

Greetings,
Maarten Hofman.

2006\03\29@154423 by Howard Winter

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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:56:38 -0500, Maarten Hofman wrote:

> Rochester, 28 maart 2006.
>
> I would go with the PicKit 2. I've only had positive experiences with it so
> far, it supports the devices you mentioned (it might need a firmware
> upgrade, but those are painless), and I think it will be supported by MPLAB
> soon.

According to their web site, the PICkit 2 doesn't support the 16F88 - a glaring omission, IMHO!  And one of
the OP's requirements, unfortunately.  I like it because it's so easy to carry around - not that I wear mine
on a neckstrap, of course :-)

I wish they'd get a move on with incorporating its support into MPLAB - that "soon" has been going on for
months...

Cheers,



Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\03\29@165622 by Maarten Hofman

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> According to their web site, the PICkit 2 doesn't support the 16F88 - a
> glaring omission, IMHO!  And one of
> the OP's requirements, unfortunately.  I like it because it's so easy to
> carry around - not that I wear mine
> on a neckstrap, of course :-)


I'm reasonably certain I programmed a 16F88 with the PicKit 2 only two days
ago. It is true that the 16F88 doesn't fit on their demo board, but it works
quite well ICSP. If you look at their most recent source code, is seems that
support of 16F88 is included, see file: PICkit.cpp which includes comment
"// covers the 16F87/88 family". I will try it again soon, and let you know
the results.


> I wish they'd get a move on with incorporating its support into MPLAB -
> that "soon" has been going on for
> months...


I agree... It would be very useful.

Greetings,
Maarten Hofman.

2006\03\29@174621 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 3/30/06, Howard Winter <spam_OUTHDRWTakeThisOuTspamh2org.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> According to their web site, the PICkit 2 doesn't support the 16F88 - a glaring omission, IMHO!

It does support programming 16F87/88 but with one exception. The second
config word is not supported. So if the second config word at 0x2008 can
be leave as default, then 16F87/88 are suported by PICkit 2.

> I wish they'd get a move on with incorporating its support into MPLAB - that "soon" has been going on for months...

It will probably integrated into MPLAB 7.4 according to MPLAB forum.

Moreover, the next version of PICkit 2 will have some more functions which
will make it even more useful. Stay tuned.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2006\03\29@180322 by Howard Winter

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Xiaofa n,

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:46:20 +0800, Xiaofan Chen wrote:

> On 3/30/06, Howard Winter <.....HDRWKILLspamspam@spam@h2org.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > According to their web site, the PICkit 2 doesn't support the 16F88 - a glaring omission, IMHO!
>
> It does support programming 16F87/88 but with one exception. The second
> config word is not supported. So if the second config word at 0x2008 can
> be leave as default, then 16F87/88 are suported by PICkit 2.

Ah, thanks for that.  I know it's not in the latest list on the web site (although Maarten says it's in the
file that's in the latest software distribution) so it's nice to know the exact situation.

> > I wish they'd get a move on with incorporating its support into MPLAB - that "soon" has been going on for
months...
>
> It will probably integrated into MPLAB 7.4 according to MPLAB forum.

That's what I'm hoping - I was hoping it was going to be in 7.3, too!  :-)

> Moreover, the next version of PICkit 2 will have some more functions which
> will make it even more useful. Stay tuned.

Sounds good - breath duly bated!  :-)

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\03\29@201317 by Nicolas

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> Moreover, the next version of PICkit 2 will have some more functions which
> will make it even more useful. Stay tuned.

hum could it be some debugging capabilities ?

Nicolas

2006\03\30@083400 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 3/30/06, Nicolas <aazhydspamKILLspamgmail.com> wrote:
> > Moreover, the next version of PICkit 2 will have some more functions which
> > will make it even more useful. Stay tuned.
>
> hum could it be some debugging capabilities ?
>
> Nicolas
>

According to the following Microchip Forum thread, yes.
http://forum.microchip.com/tm.aspx?m=144747

Regards,
Xiaofan

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