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'[PIC] MPLab old versions or PUM boot loader'
2008\03\25@130128 by Clint Sharp

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Is there a version of MPLAB IDE out there that came with the *full*
PICStart Plus firmware for the flash module? I suspect that the version
with my current install are bootloader free and as I'm having problems
getting a dead PUM to work again when I use my PICKit2 to program it. If
anyone has a hex file for the bootloader used that would be nice as
well...
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Clint Sharp

2008\03\25@175208 by Clint Sharp

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xIn message <spam_OUTz8KCiiAhmS6HFwTJTakeThisOuTspamclintsmc.demon.co.uk>, Clint Sharp
<.....piclistKILLspamspam@spam@mit.edu> writes
>Is there a version of MPLAB IDE out there that came with the *full*
>PICStart Plus firmware for the flash module? I suspect that the version
>with my current install are bootloader free and as I'm having problems
>getting a dead PUM to work again when I use my PICKit2 to program it. If
>anyone has a hex file for the bootloader used that would be nice as
>well...

Bad form replying to my own post I know, but, I believe the file I need
is PSF410.HEX? Anyone got a copy?
>--
>Clint Sharp

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Clint Sharp

2008\03\25@194844 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Clint Sharp <piclistspamKILLspammit.edu> wrote:
>  xIn message <.....z8KCiiAhmS6HFwTJKILLspamspam.....clintsmc.demon.co.uk>, Clint Sharp
> <EraseMEpiclistspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTmit.edu> writes
> >Is there a version of MPLAB IDE out there that came with the *full*
> >PICStart Plus firmware for the flash module? I suspect that the version
> >with my current install are bootloader free and as I'm having problems
> >getting a dead PUM to work again when I use my PICKit2 to program it. If
> >anyone has a hex file for the bootloader used that would be nice as
> >well...
>
> Bad form replying to my own post I know, but, I believe the file I need
> is PSF410.HEX? Anyone got a copy?

I do not see any file named PSF410 in my MPLAB 8.02 installation.

You can go to http://support.microchip.com/ and raise a ticket with them.
Maybe they will send you the file.

Xiaofan

2008\03\25@195004 by Dwayne Reid

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At 01:44 PM 3/25/2008, Clint Sharp wrote:

>I believe the file I need is PSF410.HEX? Anyone got a copy?

I have PSF30040.HEX from MPLab 5.7.040 and PSF31100 from MPLab 7.50

Would either of those work for you?

dwayne

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(780) 489-3199 voice          (780) 487-6397 fax
http://www.trinity-electronics.com
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2008\03\26@050513 by Clint Sharp

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In message <@spam@20080325234938.819FHPTNDNKILLspamspampriv-edtnaa06.telusplanet.net>,
Dwayne Reid <KILLspamdwaynerKILLspamspamplanet.eon.net> writes
>At 01:44 PM 3/25/2008, Clint Sharp wrote:
>
>>I believe the file I need is PSF410.HEX? Anyone got a copy?
>
>I have PSF30040.HEX from MPLab 5.7.040 and PSF31100 from MPLab 7.50
>
>Would either of those work for you?
>
>dwayne
Thanks Dwayne but I think they are for the old 17C44 chip not the flash
upgrade module.

I have now found a 'full' hex file for the PUM which includes the
bootloader , it's over 360K in length unlike the hex files distributed
with MPLAB (don't understand why Mchip don't include a version of it
with MPLAB anyway?) and after reprogramming the PUM  using the 5 pin
ICSP header it works perfectly.
>
>--
>Dwayne Reid   <RemoveMEdwaynerTakeThisOuTspamplanet.eon.net>
>Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd    Edmonton, AB, CANADA
>(780) 489-3199 voice          (780) 487-6397 fax
>http://www.trinity-electronics.com
>Custom Electronics Design and Manufacturing
>

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Clint Sharp

2008\03\26@074858 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Clint Sharp <spamBeGonepiclistspamBeGonespammit.edu> wrote:
> I have now found a 'full' hex file for the PUM which includes the
> bootloader , it's over 360K in length unlike the hex files distributed
> with MPLAB (don't understand why Mchip don't include a version of it
> with MPLAB anyway?) and after reprogramming the PUM  using the 5 pin
> ICSP header it works perfectly.

I agree it is strange that Microchip does not distribute the full hex
file for the PUM.

Anyway, PICkit 2 is way better than PS+. Since you have
the PICkit 2, you can forget about the PS+.

Xiaofan

2008\03\26@081420 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> Anyway, PICkit 2 is way better than PS+. Since you have
> the PICkit 2, you can forget about the PS+.

Don't forget that pickit2 and ICD2 do flash chips only. I still need my
PS+ every now and then to program an OTP chip, for instance a 16C745.

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2008\03\26@093351 by Xiaofan Chen

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On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Wouter van Ooijen <TakeThisOuTwouterEraseMEspamspam_OUTvoti.nl> wrote:
> > Anyway, PICkit 2 is way better than PS+. Since you have
> > the PICkit 2, you can forget about the PS+.
>
> Don't forget that pickit2 and ICD2 do flash chips only. I still need my
> PS+ every now and then to program an OTP chip, for instance a 16C745.
>

I see. This makes sense.

The last time I worked with an OTP PIC was the PIC16C72A back
in 2002 when we switched from programming in house to Microchip
factory programming of the code I wrote in year 2000. I was using
Promate II at at time.

The product is still selling well (>150k per year?) at a very healthy
margin. I think healthy margin in that niche in the industry automation
market normally means >100%.

Xiaofan

2008\03\26@163813 by Dwayne Reid

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At 03:03 AM 3/26/2008, Clint Sharp wrote:
> >
> >Would either of those work for you?
>
>Thanks Dwayne but I think they are for the old 17C44 chip not the flash
>upgrade module.

I should have thought of that.  I suspect that you are correct.


>I have now found a 'full' hex file for the PUM which includes the
>bootloader , it's over 360K in length unlike the hex files distributed
>with MPLAB (don't understand why Mchip don't include a version of it
>with MPLAB anyway?) and after reprogramming the PUM  using the 5 pin
>ICSP header it works perfectly.

Did you find it online?  Can you post the URL?

Thanks!

dwayne  (who still hasn't installed PUMs in his PS+ programmers).

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Dwayne Reid   <RemoveMEdwaynerspamTakeThisOuTplanet.eon.net>
Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd    Edmonton, AB, CANADA
(780) 489-3199 voice          (780) 487-6397 fax
http://www.trinity-electronics.com
Custom Electronics Design and Manufacturing


'[PIC] MPLab old versions or PUM boot loader'
2008\04\25@021507 by Satyadev Vyas
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Can you please tell me where you got the full hex file from? I have similar
problem.

Or if you can be so kind as to email the file to me??

My email address is satyadev.vyas AT gmail.com.

Thanks.

Satyadev Vyas



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