Post by thread:[PIC] MPLAB 10 and ICD support

Hi all! Recently, I have assisted a Microchip forum, where I have heard from the Microchip staff that they will jump around MPLAB 9 and they will release directly MPLAB 10. This IDE will be very different from what we use now. They say that ICD2 and Pickit2 will not be recommended (but supported) for work with MPLAB 10. I wonder if ICD2 will support the new chips from Microchip or it will be only for ICD3? The RealICE is still a hi end debug tool and ICD3 is a replacement for ICD2. What do you think about it? PS. sorry for my English - I continue to learn it :) -- Artem

Why is Pickit 2 not recommended? It works fine for me. Jo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Artem Zezyulinskiy" <spam_OUTartemzezTakeThisOuTsedatelec.com> To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <.....piclistKILLspam@spam@mit.edu> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:23 AM Subject: [PIC] MPLAB 10 and ICD support {Quote hidden}> Hi all! > > Recently, I have assisted a Microchip forum, where I have heard from the > Microchip staff that they will jump around MPLAB 9 and they will release > directly MPLAB 10. This IDE will be very different from what we use now. > > They say that ICD2 and Pickit2 will not be recommended (but supported) > for work with MPLAB 10. > > I wonder if ICD2 will support the new chips from Microchip or it will be > only for ICD3? > > The RealICE is still a hi end debug tool and ICD3 is a replacement for > ICD2. > > What do you think about it? > > PS. sorry for my English - I continue to learn it :) > > -- > Artem > > --

>I wonder if ICD2 will support the new chips from Microchip >or it will be only for ICD3? The advertising on the Microchip web site already says the ICD2 is not recommended for use with new devices. Due to various limitations with the internal hardware of the ICD2 I doubt that it will continue to be supported for new devices. Also note that Microchip are running a program to trade in an ICD2 and get 25% off a new debug tool, such as an ICD3 or Real ICE. Note that some revisions of the ICD2 will not work with Vista 64 (not sure about Vista 32, but it may be that as well) due to internal hardware problems in the ICD2. >The RealICE is still a hi end debug tool and ICD3 is a replacement for >ICD2. Essentially yes, but when you look at the Real ICE feature list it does have significant extra features. The ICD3 is also a lot faster than the ICD2 as it can run at USB2 High Speed, where the ICD2 can run at only Full Speed, and it has a lot more debugging features for the higher end target chips.

Alan B. Pearce a écrit : > The advertising on the Microchip web site already says the ICD2 is not > recommended for use with new devices. Due to various limitations with the > internal hardware of the ICD2 I doubt that it will continue to be supported > for new devices. Ok > Also note that Microchip are running a program to trade in > an ICD2 and get 25% off a new debug tool, such as an ICD3 or Real ICE. It is only for ICD3 not for Real ICE, right? > Essentially yes, but when you look at the Real ICE feature list it does have > significant extra features. The ICD3 is also a lot faster than the ICD2 as > it can run at USB2 High Speed, where the ICD2 can run at only Full Speed, > and it has a lot more debugging features for the higher end target chips. > but real ice have trace capability. It is really useful? -- Artem

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Artem Zezyulinskiy <artemzezKILLspamsedatelec.com> wrote: > but real ice have trace capability. It is really useful? In my opinion analysing the tracebuffer is one of the most useful thing when you are dealing with complex code. So for example you can look back when a variable set into a wrong value or at which point your function got called or what branch of program flow it went before the wrong value set. Sometimes is much better than conditional breakpoints. Tamas > > -- > Artem > > -

:::: Also note that Microchip are running a program to trade in :::: an ICD2 and get 25% off a new debug tool, such as an ICD3 or :::: Real ICE. :: It is only for ICD3 not for Real ICE, right? Nope, I got a 25% discount on my purchase of a Real Ice. The only gotchya is once the discount code is emailed to you, they reckon you only have 30 days to redeem it. Colin -- cdb, .....colinKILLspam.....btech-online.co.uk on 10/28/2009 Web presence: http://www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: http://www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7988359