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2004\09\29@135845 by Robert Rolf

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Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:

>>HOWEVER what I have not investigated is what the ICD2 can do
>>with the Vpp voltage. Is it adjustable, or is it fixed like the ICD1.
>>That is about the only difference that I can think of that might
>>make them want to obsolete the ICd1.
>
>
> What about maintaining a separate batch of engineering
> documentation ? The adminstration and quality control
> of the docs are a fair bit of the total cost of keeping an
> old product line up-to-date.
>
> After all, *every* company phases out old products now
> and then...

Sure.
But since the 'product' is software based, there is no good
reason to NOT keep it up to date, given that the changes
in the newer chips is a slight change in the way that programming
is done. They only have to support the few commands that ICSP
requires. Set address, read, erase, program, bulk erase.
The drivers for the ICD1/2 are already written. They only
need build the data tables for the new chips.

Microchip, what is the REAL reason you have stopped supporting
ICD1 & 2? Whatever happened to 'the customer is usually right'?

Robert


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2004\09\29@141118 by Bob Axtell

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Has Microchip stopped supporting ICD2?

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2004\09\29@150228 by Igor Pokorny

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I would like to add my two pences to this discussion...

I tried to change a  firmawere in ICD1 to be able to use it with MPLAB
6.x.... Alan was right pointing to inability to set different Vpp by
ICD1, but the problem is even deeper. When I was able to buy ICD2 clone
for $40 for my personal using I resigned.

Igor    

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2004\09\29@192710 by Ken Pergola

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Bob Axtell wrote:

> Has Microchip stopped supporting ICD2?

Hi Bob,

Not too worry, they have not. The origin of this thread was that I saw a
post on the Microchip Forums indicating that the ICD 2 *clones* *might* not
work with MPLAB IDE 7.0. I don't know how that poster would mention MPLAB
IDE 7.0 since it is not due out until around the beginning of December from
what I've heard from Microchip. It was irresponsible for me to start this
thread based on that speculative information, but I only did it as an
attempt at feeble humor: to me it just seemed funny if the poster's
statement was true -- it conjured up images of 'The Empire Strikes Back' and
'Attack of the (ICD 2) Clones'. I'm sorry.

Actually the good news is that Microchip made a post on the forums that
MPLAB IDE 7.0 will be the version where you won't need to download
thirty-something megabytes to get it.

Best regards,

Ken Pergola


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