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'[PIC] Does MPLAB v7.60a actually WORK on ICD2?'
2007\09\14@112619 by Bob Axtell

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For some reason, my XP's won't run ICD2 properly with MPLAB v60a.
But MPLAB v7.40 works just fine.

Why is it always ME who has to wring out Microchip's stuff?

--Bob

2007\09\14@114654 by Mauricio Giovagnini

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Bob I've used ICD2 with MPLAB 7.60 (without the a) and Im using it with MPLAB 7.62 without having noticed anything wrong.



----- Mensaje original ----
De: Bob Axtell <spam_OUTengineerTakeThisOuTspamcotse.net>
Para: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <.....piclistKILLspamspam@spam@mit.edu>
Enviado: viernes 14 de septiembre de 2007, 12:25:34
Asunto: [PIC] Does MPLAB v7.60a actually WORK on ICD2?

For some reason, my XP's won't run ICD2 properly with MPLAB v60a.
But MPLAB v7.40 works just fine.

Why is it always ME who has to wring out Microchip's stuff?

--Bob

2007\09\14@120143 by Mohit Mahajan

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>Im using it with MPLAB 7.62 without having noticed anything wrong.
Same here.

Mauricio Giovagnini wrote:
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2007\09\14@121144 by Morgan Olsson

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Den 2007-09-14 17:46:51 skrev Mauricio Giovagnini <EraseMEmaugiovagninispam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTyahoo.com.ar>:

My collegue have used theese versions MPLAB with ICD2.

There are both hardware and software problems.


Note that we and at least one more user here ave had problems when PortB internal pullups are enabled.
(A PIC18FJ running at VCC=VDD=2,5V)
Problems showed when using "Real-ICE" but ICD are measured to be close to signal level problems too.

It works for us to either
a) shut of PortB pullups.
b) configure the ICD pins as outputs and set them low.

One more thing Micochip did not tell...



OH, and my collegue have had lots of problems with MPLAB and the drivers on WinXP.
MPLAB and sometimes WinXP need to be restarted some times a day :(

Also, we broke WinXP by pluggin in a serial-USB and dumping data to it
WinXP suddenly "detected a mouse", "autoinstalled" it, hung, and broke the filesystem :( :(

Can this autodestroumyself idiocracy be turned off?

Or we will try to move to only run windows in software emulators, or tools under wine.

/Morgan

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--
Morgan Olsson

2007\09\14@121426 by Bob Axtell

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Mauricio Giovagnini wrote:
> Bob I've used ICD2 with MPLAB 7.60 (without the a) and Im using it with MPLAB 7.62 without having noticed anything wrong.
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> ----- Mensaje original ----
> De: Bob Axtell <KILLspamengineerKILLspamspamcotse.net>
> Para: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <RemoveMEpiclistTakeThisOuTspammit.edu>
> Enviado: viernes 14 de septiembre de 2007, 12:25:34
> Asunto: [PIC] Does MPLAB v7.60a actually WORK on ICD2?
>
> For some reason, my XP's won't run ICD2 properly with MPLAB v60a.
> But MPLAB v7.40 works just fine.
>
> Why is it always ME who has to wring out Microchip's stuff?
>
> --Bob
>  
Are you using XP Home Edition?

--Bob

2007\09\14@121740 by Bob Axtell

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Mohit Mahajan wrote:
>> Im using it with MPLAB 7.62 without having noticed anything wrong.
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> Same here.
>  
But so far, nobody is running 7.60a successfully, is that right?

--Bob


2007\09\14@125802 by WH Tan

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2007/9/15, Bob Axtell wrote:

> But so far, nobody is running 7.60a successfully, is that right?


Now I am running MPLAB v7.62...  But I can't recall any serious
problem with ICD2 when I was using v7.60a.  And my OS is Xp Pro.


Best regards,

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WH Tan

2007\09\14@131154 by John Chung

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I am using 7.6 with ICD2 right now. So far okay.

John



--- Mauricio Giovagnini <spamBeGonemaugiovagninispamBeGonespamyahoo.com.ar>
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2007\09\14@132314 by Bob Axtell

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John Chung wrote:
> I am using 7.6 with ICD2 right now. So far okay.
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> John
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I'm stumped. Why me? I get bunches of USB comm errors, on all 3 machines,
with 7.60a. With 7.4, all 3 work fine.

Well, I am running again on 7.40. Thanks for all the responses.
It HAS to be me.... somehow.

-=-Bob


2007\09\14@133937 by Rikard Bosnjakovic

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On 14/09/2007, Bob Axtell <engineerEraseMEspam.....cotse.net> wrote:

> Well, I am running again on 7.40. Thanks for all the responses.
> It HAS to be me.... somehow.

FWIW, the ICD2 fails miserably when I try to use 16F628A-chips. Any
other chip works perfectly, but not the 628As. Microchip has no clue
as to why, and the only way they've helped me regarding that matter is
to give me questions which I answered in the first posting when
contacting the support.

I have tried only one ICD2, though, but atleast you're not on your own.


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- Rikard - http://bos.hack.org/cv/

2007\09\14@135216 by Olof Larsson

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Morgan Olsson skrev:
> Den 2007-09-14 17:46:51 skrev Mauricio Giovagnini <EraseMEmaugiovagninispamyahoo.com.ar>:
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> Also, we broke WinXP by pluggin in a serial-USB and dumping data to it
> WinXP suddenly "detected a mouse", "autoinstalled" it, hung, and broke the filesystem :( :(
>
> Can this autodestroumyself idiocracy be turned off?
>  

I used to have that all the time when using at GPS->serial-USB->PC
setup. If the GPS was already sending NMEA messages when the USB dongle
was plugged in, XP would detect it as some kind of MS mouse most of the
time. Obvious solution is to make sure there is no traffic on the serial
port until XP has properly detected and installed the USB device.
Another solution is to allow the bogus mouse driver to be installed,
stop the incoming serial traffic (to prevent old XP from hanging) and
then select "disable this device" (or whatever the exact wording is) on
the mouse in the Device Manager.

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2007\09\14@140049 by Mauricio Giovagnini

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Why Bob, Im just curios.  Can't you download 7.62?


----- Mensaje original ----
De: Bob Axtell <RemoveMEengineerTakeThisOuTspamspamcotse.net>
Para: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <EraseMEpiclistspamspamspamBeGonemit.edu>
Enviado: viernes 14 de septiembre de 2007, 14:22:27
Asunto: Re: [PIC] Does MPLAB v7.60a actually WORK on ICD2?

John Chung wrote:
> I am using 7.6 with ICD2 right now. So far okay.
>
> John
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I'm stumped. Why me? I get bunches of USB comm errors, on all 3 machines,
with 7.60a. With 7.4, all 3 work fine.

Well, I am running again on 7.40. Thanks for all the responses.
It HAS to be me.... somehow.

-=-Bob

2007\09\14@141625 by Herbert Graf

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On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 08:25 -0700, Bob Axtell wrote:
> For some reason, my XP's won't run ICD2 properly with MPLAB v60a.

Working fine for me. TTYL


2007\09\14@143309 by Olof Larsson

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Thinking about it the trick might also have been uninstalling the ms
crack pot mouse driver... it was a year ago or so I did this and my
memory is globally declared volatile. Try either disabling the device or
uninstalling the driver when the USB installation has gone haywire.

Olof Larsson skrev:
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2007\09\14@150255 by Morgan Olsson

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Den 2007-09-14 19:51:31 skrev Olof Larsson <KILLspamolof.larssonspamBeGonespamtelevilt.se>:

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Problem was that when rebooting, XP hang when trying to finish the install.
No way around, to abort, what we could see.

2007\09\14@163235 by Herbert Graf

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On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 19:51 +0200, Olof Larsson wrote:
> Morgan Olsson skrev:
> > Den 2007-09-14 17:46:51 skrev Mauricio Giovagnini <@spam@maugiovagnini@spam@spamspam_OUTyahoo.com.ar>:
> >
> >
> > Also, we broke WinXP by pluggin in a serial-USB and dumping data to it
> > WinXP suddenly "detected a mouse", "autoinstalled" it, hung, and broke the filesystem :( :(
> >
> > Can this autodestroumyself idiocracy be turned off?
> >  
>
> I used to have that all the time when using at GPS->serial-USB->PC
> setup. If the GPS was already sending NMEA messages when the USB dongle
> was plugged in, XP would detect it as some kind of MS mouse most of the
> time. Obvious solution is to make sure there is no traffic on the serial
> port until XP has properly detected and installed the USB device.
> Another solution is to allow the bogus mouse driver to be installed,
> stop the incoming serial traffic (to prevent old XP from hanging) and
> then select "disable this device" (or whatever the exact wording is) on
> the mouse in the Device Manager.

Yes, very annoying issue. Off the top of my head, it's the "M" character
that screws Windows up into thinking it's a mouse. Why this is still an
issue in windows is a mystery, they've known about it for ages. TTYL

2007\09\14@192510 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/15/07, Bob Axtell <spamBeGoneengineerspamKILLspamcotse.net> wrote:
> John Chung wrote:
> > I am using 7.6 with ICD2 right now. So far okay.
> I'm stumped. Why me? I get bunches of USB comm errors, on all 3 machines,
> with 7.60a. With 7.4, all 3 work fine.
>
> Well, I am running again on 7.40. Thanks for all the responses.
> It HAS to be me.... somehow.

Are you using the original ICD2 or a clone? Sometimes that makes
a big difference.


Xiaofan

2007\09\15@024353 by John Chung

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--- Xiaofan Chen <.....xiaofancspam_OUTspamgmail.com> wrote:

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I am using an original ICD2. Do you want the firmware
number?

John


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2007\09\15@030037 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 9/15/07, John Chung <TakeThisOuTkravnusKILLspamspamspamyahoo.com> wrote:

> I am using an original ICD2. Do you want the firmware
> number?

I am asking Bob, not you. ;-)
He seems to recommend some ICD2 clones from Ebay
so I am suspecting that he is using an ICD2 clone.
I do not like ICD2, let alone clone ICD2....

Xiaofan

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