Searching \ for '[PIC] Anyone using the ASUS EEE notebook for PIC w' in subject line. ()
Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure! Help us get a faster server
FAQ page: www.piclist.com/techref/microchip/devices.htm?key=pic
Search entire site for: 'Anyone using the ASUS EEE notebook for PIC w'.

Exact match. Not showing close matches.
PICList Thread
'[PIC] Anyone using the ASUS EEE notebook for PIC w'
2008\01\15@200925 by Marcel Duchamp

picon face
Anyone using the ASUS EEE notebook for PIC work?

I have been thinking about a lightweight tool to take to work and home
that can run MPLAB and an ICD2 for PIC work.

The EEE marketing droid speak on the ASUS website indicates that it can
run XP.  I'm curious as to whether anyone has done this and has any
input on the subject.

Thanks!

2008\01\15@210855 by Herbert Graf

flavicon
face

On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 17:08 -0800, Marcel Duchamp wrote:
> Anyone using the ASUS EEE notebook for PIC work?
>
> I have been thinking about a lightweight tool to take to work and home
> that can run MPLAB and an ICD2 for PIC work.
>
> The EEE marketing droid speak on the ASUS website indicates that it can
> run XP.  I'm curious as to whether anyone has done this and has any
> input on the subject.

Personally I'm waiting for the new model. The current one has a 480pixel
high screen. This is not enough to be comfortable with pretty much any
OS config other then that included.

Even distros like xubuntu (optimized for less powerful hardware) have
issues with dialogs popping up that aren't resizable and have buttons
that are off screen. Windows has the same problem.

As a trial, you could try forcing your video card into 640x480 mode and
see if it's a problem for you.

TTYL

2008\01\15@214334 by Piclist

flavicon
face
I am not using one...............yet.  I too have been looking at it for a
while and really really want one for some of the same reasons, light, small,
and runs XP.  I've been doing some digging on the internet abut it and have
found that it is extremely easy to modify/upgrade it, including putting XP
on it.  It comes with a CD with all of the drivers needed to run XP and
instructions on how to do the actual XP install.

I was trying to find enough compelling reasons to purchase one, and got sold
on the idea of getting one when I found this site (and others too) that is
loaded with details on how to add stuff to it, like Bluetooth, touch screens
etc.  See:

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=3982

Note that there are a few different versions of it.  The 4G seems to be the
only one with enough room for you to upgrade it by adding Bluetooth, touch
screen and other things.  It comes with only 512M of ram but will can be
upgraded to 2G by replacing the ram (you can't just add more).  The 8G has a
lot less room for the upgrades and from the stuff I read it is not worth
getting the "surf" versions, especially if you end up deciding to upgrade
it.

-Mario


{Original Message removed}

2008\01\16@001641 by Xiaofan Chen

face picon face
On 1/16/08, Marcel Duchamp <spam_OUTmarcel.duchampTakeThisOuTspamsbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Anyone using the ASUS EEE notebook for PIC work?
>
> I have been thinking about a lightweight tool to take to work and home
> that can run MPLAB and an ICD2 for PIC work.
>
> The EEE marketing droid speak on the ASUS website indicates that it can
> run XP.  I'm curious as to whether anyone has done this and has any
> input on the subject.

XP should be ok.
http://www.eeeguides.com/2007/11/installing-windows-xp-from-usb-thumb.html

Some of them even upgraded Eee PC to run Vista.
forums.vr-zone.com/forumdisplay.php?f=210
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=224894

I've tried Eee PC for a while and it is not bad with the default
Linux installation. But if you want to play with MPLAB and
ICD2, you may have to install Windows XP. Piklab under
Linux still has a long way to go. But you might want to
try it.

As I am not a mobile worker, I feel Eee PC is not worth
the money (it is not cheap at all compared to other
low cost full size notebook).

Xiaofan

2008\01\16@055244 by John Gardner

picon face
On 1/15/08, Xiaofan Chen <.....xiaofancKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com> wrote:
{Quote hidden}

> -

2008\01\16@160238 by Philip Pemberton

face
flavicon
face
Herbert Graf wrote:
> Personally I'm waiting for the new model. The current one has a 480pixel
> high screen. This is not enough to be comfortable with pretty much any
> OS config other then that included.

Actually, it's not that bad with Fedora 8 + KDE + a few custom RPMs for the
hardware (asus-acpi, patched madwifi, athl2 Ethernet driver). I've got the 4GB
white Eee, upgraded to 2GB RAM (it came with 512MB).

Yes you sometimes get windows that disappear off screen, but for the most part
it's fine. I do miss my 19" 1280x1024 TFT when I'm on the road, though...

Heck, it runs Vim, GCC and KDE. I'm happy.

--
Phil.                         |  (\_/)  This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny
.....piclistKILLspamspam.....philpem.me.uk         | (='.'=) into your signature to help him gain
http://www.philpem.me.uk/     | (")_(") world domination.

2008\01\16@164053 by piclist

flavicon
face
I thought I read somewhere during my reasearch on the eee that Asus had
decided
not to do another model with a bigger screen, but I'll have to double check
that.

For me, the biggest motivation for getting one, is it's size.  For the
price not
much out there beats it.  I've seen a Vaio that is extremely tiny and a lot
smaller than the eee, but it costs almost US$2,000!  Plus, as already
mentioned
in another post, this has got room inside it for you to add some upgrades, and
you could not do that with the Vaio.

But size and performance for the price is the biggest reason for me.


-Mario


Quoting Philip Pemberton <EraseMEpiclistspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTphilpem.me.uk>:

{Quote hidden}

> -

2008\01\22@005550 by Carey Fisher

face picon face
 <http://www.ncsradio.com/>

Marcel Duchamp wrote:
> Anyone using the ASUS EEE notebook for PIC work?
>
> I have been thinking about a lightweight tool to take to work and home
> that can run MPLAB and an ICD2 for PIC work.
>
> The EEE marketing droid speak on the ASUS website indicates that it can
> run XP.  I'm curious as to whether anyone has done this and has any
> input on the subject.
>
>  
Marcel,
I bought one just for that purpose - small and carry to customer to
upgrade firmware
using PicKit2. I'm convinced it will run XP well if you reduce the size
of XP using the
various programs used to reduce distro sizes.  I've tried WINE but can't
get very far.
I love the eeePC (Skype with video is GREAT!!!) but will probably
install XP just for PicKit2.
Carey

2008\01\22@034043 by Xiaofan Chen

face picon face
On 1/22/08, Carey Fisher <@spam@careyfisherKILLspamspamncsradio.com> wrote:
> Marcel,
> I bought one just for that purpose - small and carry to customer to
> upgrade firmware using PicKit2. I'm convinced it will run XP well
> if you reduce the size of XP using the
> various programs used to reduce distro sizes.  I've tried WINE but can't
> get very far.
> I love the eeePC (Skype with video is GREAT!!!) but will probably
> install XP just for PicKit2.

PICkit 2 works fine under Linux with pk2cmd Linux port.
http://home.pacbell.net/theposts/picmicro/

Wine will not get you very far when accessing hardware. I do not
think it supports USB. And I think its support for serial is also limited.

Xiaofan
http://mcuee.blogspot.com

2008\01\22@043958 by Jake Anderson

flavicon
face
Xiaofan Chen wrote:
{Quote hidden}

If you really need windows take a look at a stripped down windows
install. It'd probably run in 256mb of ram inside VMware or something
with a 512mb disk if your keen. (USB flash disk perhaps?)

2008\01\22@045924 by peter green

flavicon
face

> If you really need windows take a look at a stripped down windows
> install. It'd probably run in 256mb of ram inside VMware or something
>  

putting something like vmware on something this slow and low spec just
seems like a recepie for pain to me.


2008\01\22@061835 by Jake Anderson

flavicon
face
peter green wrote:
>> If you really need windows take a look at a stripped down windows
>> install. It'd probably run in 256mb of ram inside VMware or something
>>  
>>    
>
> putting something like vmware on something this slow and low spec just
> seems like a recepie for pain to me.
>
>
>  
Performance is typically > 80% of native speed and a minimal win2k
install is going to be pretty snappy on a ~1Ghz machine.
Try it, what you got to loose?

2008\01\24@125012 by Carey Fisher

face picon face

*Carey Fisher, Chief Technical Officer
New Communications Solutions, LLC
*RemoveMEcareyfisherTakeThisOuTspamncsradio.com <spamBeGonecareyfisherspamBeGonespamncsradio.com>
Toll Free Phone:888-883-5788
Local Phone:770-814-0683
FAX: 888-883-5788
http://www.ncsradio.com <http://www.ncsradio.com/>



Xiaofan Chen wrote:
{Quote hidden}

Good hint - I'll try pk2cmd and let the group know if it works.
Thanks,
Carey

2008\01\27@134701 by ru12

flavicon
face

Hi all,
it has been a year or two since I visited the piclist, and noticed this
question on the EEE PC baby notebook.

I got two 4gig versions for my own use, and found when I installed XP, that
there wasn't a great deal of SSD left over for applications, so I decided to
get two 8gig versions, sold one of the 4gigs to a friend, and my wife now
loves the one left over, which she uses for Amazon browsing and email. So I
have ended up with a spare Pentium 4 desktop.  :-)

If you just wanted to run your basic stuff, and say MPLAB, and a decent
compiler, then there is plenty of room on a 4gig.

But I wanted to run my business, as I travel a bit, and need to be in
constant contact. I was using a Sony VAIO, but the EEE-PC has many
advantages.

The 8Gig can be very difficult to get in the US right now, as stock levels
are low, but that situation will change.

I have yet to find a USB peripheral that doesn't work on this baby notebook.

This is what I have found to date regarding PIC devices:

I connected up the USB to TTL converter at:
www.dontronics-shop.com/4d-Micro-USB-CE5-p-16685.html
This uses the popular FTDI FT232RQ chip.
I had this driving an OLED graphics controller:
www.dontronics-shop.com/4d-Micro-OLED-160-GMD1-Module-and-Graphics-Controller-p-16659.html
and did a firmware update to the device.

Of course, most of you will know of the FTDI chip, the method of software
installation and the fact that you need to get into the hardware system
settings and set the comm port to one matching your software driver.

This means that all of the PIC USB programmers that use the FTDI chip at:
www.dontronics-shop.com/Olimex-p-1-c-401.html
will work on the EEE-PC

I then decided to try a Melabs USB programmer:
www.dontronics-shop.com/Micro-Engineering-Labs-p-1-c-402.html
and this also worked fine.

It also means the USB to RS-232 converters at:
www.dontronics-shop.com/USB-Converters-p-1-c-265.html
should work without problems.

I was tempted to try my old Warp-13 programmer with an FTDI converter, but
needed to match up firmware and PC software that I haven't used for years,
but I see no reason why this shouldn't work either.

I see this baby notebook as a great in field programmer. It is the sort of
thing you could attach to a small cradle/harness and climb a pole with.

Hope this gives enough of an idea to get you started with this unit. Of
course, it can be used for any embedded micro family that uses windows, and
a USB port for programming.

Cheers Don...
http://www.dontronics-shop.com
--
View this message in context: www.nabble.com/Anyone-using-the-ASUS-EEE-notebook-for-PIC-work--tp14858532p15122462.html
Sent from the PIC - [PIC] mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


'[PIC] Anyone using the ASUS EEE notebook for PIC w'
2008\02\27@062227 by Richard Benfield
flavicon
face


>I was wondering, Does the bios let you boot from an SD card? If it does you
>could
> buy a relatively cheap 8G SDHC card and but windows on that for when you
> need it.
>
> FYI. I've just put windows on an old 633MHz celeron with 256MB of ram, it
> seems
> to work reasonably well actually, the basic install took 2GB including
> 393MB for the
> pagefile, after installing all the patches it grew to 3GB then Dropped
> Back to 2.6GB
> after deleting obvious files. On the ASUS if you had 2GB of ram you would
> need to
> disable the virtual memory which would get the install back to about
> 2.2GB, which
> sounds quite usable.
>
> Richard
> {Original Message removed}

2008\02\27@152646 by Philip Pemberton

face
flavicon
face
Richard Benfield wrote:
>> I was wondering, Does the bios let you boot from an SD card? If it does you
>> could
>> buy a relatively cheap 8G SDHC card and but windows on that for when you
>> need it.

Yes, you can boot from an SD card on the Eee, or even a USB hard drive. What
you can't do is disable the solid-state drive, so if you want to install
Windows, it has to go on the SSD.

Unless you install it on a 4GB USB stick and use Virtualbox to run it :)

I've got Fedora 8 on my Eee, using a few custom-built packages (see
http://rpm.philpem.me.uk/ for the Yum configuration file and bootstrap RPMs
for wifi and ethernet). It actually works pretty well once you set the
reserved blocks count on the ext2 root partition to a very low number (having
400MB of a 4GB SSD hogged by blocks 'reserved for the superuser' is annoying).

As for software, I've got GPASM/GPSIM installed, and some of the AVR tools
(avrdude and avr-gcc). Haven't had a chance to play with them much, though.

--
Phil.                         |  (\_/)  This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny
RemoveMEpiclistspamTakeThisOuTphilpem.me.uk         | (='.'=) into your signature to help him gain
http://www.philpem.me.uk/     | (")_(") world domination.

2008\02\28@025845 by Rob Hamerling

picon face


Philip Pemberton wrote:
> Richard Benfield wrote:
>>> I was wondering, Does the bios let you boot from an SD card? If it does you
>>> could
>>> buy a relatively cheap 8G SDHC card and but windows on that for when you
>>> need it.
>
> Yes, you can boot from an SD card on the Eee, or even a USB hard drive. What
> you can't do is disable the solid-state drive, so if you want to install
> Windows, it has to go on the SSD.

I have no EeePC, but I have heard it runs eComStation(OS/2 Warp) very
well (and installed on the built-in drive). See some videos on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge6zgGhI8tA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_lgUbEXNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sGBxhPZReE


RU12 wrote:
> If you go to the EEE Forum at:
> http://forum.eeeuser.com/index.php
>
> you will find many users have XP installed on an SDHC card, but with mixed
> results. Some claim that the system is extremely slow.

According to the comments on the videos it is quite fast with eComStation.

Regards, Rob.


--
Rob Hamerling, Vianen, NL (http://www.robh.nl/)

More... (looser matching)
- Last day of these posts
- In 2008 , 2009 only
- Today
- New search...