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'[PIC] All PIC problems solved?'
2004\11\16@175251 by olin_piclist

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Not that I'm complaining, but the list has been really light the last two
days.  The archives show only 19 messages each of yesterday and today.  Is
there some international holiday I don't know about, or has every
conceivable PIC problem been solved and we should all go home now?


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2004\11\16@193639 by Jinx

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> Not that I'm complaining, but the list has been really light the
> last two days

Yeah, spooky innit ?

> has every conceivable PIC problem been solved and we
> should all go home now ?

Wondered about that last time it happened - surprised that
2000+ people seem content. I know I am for the time being

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2004\11\16@195424 by Marcel Duchamp

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Jinx wrote:

>Wondered about that last time it happened - surprised that
>2000+ people seem content. I know I am for the time being
>
Content, huh?  So did you exorcise the demon that was infesting your
computer?  If so, how and so on... enquiring minds want to know.

For what it's worth, my computer was working most peculiarly last week.  
It finally boiled down to a missing dll file in the /system32 dir.  The
effects were such that I never would have guessed that was the problem
but after about a week googling, the anwer was revealed.

If you are still plagued with sorrows from hell, you have my condolences.
MD
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2004\11\16@195539 by Richard.Prosser

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Well - Russell's on holiday.
RP



Not that I'm complaining, but the list has been really light the last two
days.  The archives show only 19 messages each of yesterday and today.  Is
there some international holiday I don't know about, or has every
conceivable PIC problem been solved and we should all go home now?





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2004\11\16@204811 by Justin Fielding

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So what was happening?

Justin.

Marcel Duchamp wrote:

| Jinx wrote:
|
|> Wondered about that last time it happened - surprised that 2000+
|> people seem content. I know I am for the time being
|>
| Content, huh?  So did you exorcise the demon that was infesting
| your computer?  If so, how and so on... enquiring minds want to
| know.
|
| For what it's worth, my computer was working most peculiarly last
| week.  It finally boiled down to a missing dll file in the
| /system32 dir.  The effects were such that I never would have
| guessed that was the problem but after about a week googling, the
| anwer was revealed.
|
| If you are still plagued with sorrows from hell, you have my
| condolences. MD ______________________________________________

2004\11\16@205024 by Carey Fisher - NCS

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I have a PIC problem:

If you can PIC your friends
And you can PIC your nose,
Why can't you PIC your friend's nose?

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2004\11\16@212825 by Marcel Duchamp

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Justin Fielding wrote:

> So what was happening?
>
> Justin.

Not sure if you mean Jinx or me here. Jinx had some internet demon
making life difficult; whether he has bannished it back to the seventh
plane of hell, I can't say.

For my 2 cents, my virus checker and firewall malfunctioned. This was
traced to the task scheduler not running.  (XP system). It would not run
due to the event log program not running.  That wouldn't run due to a
missing dll file.  A week or so before, the system had crashed and
spawned chkdsk which found a bunch of errors here and there on the
drive.  Windows - which seemingly knows exactly which resource was asked
for but failed to start - simply reports back service not running.

It now seems to be better...

I just noticed that Olin started this thread and that it is completely
off topic at this point.  So if anyone has further bits of wisdom, they
should probably re-mark it as OT.
MD

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2004\11\16@230317 by Charles Craft

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DirecTV started the all Christmas music channel beginning of November and that always helps.

Back in the good ol' days we could talk about the Christmas spirit but now I guess it's only politically
correct to refer to it as the early winter retail holiday spectacular.  :-(

People should be easing into the holiday spirit or they're balls to the wall trying to spend budget
money before the end of the calendar year. :-)


> has every conceivable PIC problem been solved and we
> should all go home now ?

Wondered about that last time it happened - surprised that
2000+ people seem content. I know I am for the time being

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2004\11\17@040142 by hael Rigby-Jones

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>
>Not that I'm complaining, but the list has been really light
>the last two days.  The archives show only 19 messages each of
>yesterday and today.  Is there some international holiday I
>don't know about, or has every conceivable PIC problem been
>solved and we should all go home now?

I had assumed the PIC mail server was having problems again!

Mike

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2004\11\17@103545 by John Ferrell

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I am working on problem reruns.
The current nuisance is that MPLAB (6.6) is complaining that the path is
longer than 62 characters.
Error 173 I think.

We have been there before, I should remember the cure.
I should be able to find it in the archives, but so far, no joy.

The easy workaround is to put the source directory closer to the root, but
that is a cop out...

BTW, so far I have not found anything to complain about using Mikropascal on
a 16F628 other than it is a little clumsy to have to go to MPLAB to load the
Hex to the chip.

John Ferrell
My Competition is not my enemy!
http://DixieNC.US

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2004\11\17@111128 by James Alston

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That's a major peeve I have with MPLAB too. I map a network drive to my
project directory as a workaround (and hope any sub-directories don't extend
down too far). So many development environments (not just MPLAB) don't ever
seem to have been tested with anything bigger than a couple of code modules,
otherwise these kinds of issues would never have got out into the wild.

James

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2004\11\17@122158 by Aaron

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Charles Craft wrote:

>Back in the good ol' days we could talk about the Christmas spirit but now I guess it's only politically correct to refer to it as the early winter retail holiday spectacular.  :-
>  
>
Whatever you call it, people are normally a little more generous this
time of the year.  Perhaps it's time to remember:
http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/support.htm

Aaron
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2004\11\17@124743 by Mauricio Giovagnini

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This has been asked on microchip forum, you can check its link

http://forum.microchip.com/tm.asp?m=56363&mpage=1&key=path&anchor#56389

There it says that the limitation is not of Mplab but of cod files standard.

;)


James Alston wrote:

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2004\11\17@125118 by alan smith

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bahhhhhh humbug

weeks behind....board going to layout....does have a
PIC on it amongst bunches of big ASIC's and power
supplies.  Battling CM's that 0201 packages are
good....even tho you really can't see them...

And I'm just now looking at my code changes for the
PIC



               
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2004\11\17@131331 by Plasmajetsoftware

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is piclist still working as before?


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From: "Aaron" <piclistspamspam_OUTbright.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PIC] All PIC problems solved?


> Charles Craft wrote:
>
> >Back in the good ol' days we could talk about the Christmas spirit but
now I guess it's only politically correct to refer to it as the early winter
retail holiday spectacular.  :-
> >
> >
> Whatever you call it, people are normally a little more generous this
> time of the year.  Perhaps it's time to remember:
> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/support.htm
>
> Aaron
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2004\11\17@141755 by Charles Craft

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Lemons into Lemonade!

Thanks for taking my slightly sarcastic reply and steering it to something useful.  :-)


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2004\11\17@184422 by Dave Lag

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In w98 I think the old DOS assign command works to assign a drive letter
to the path?


John Ferrell wrote:
> I am working on problem reruns.
> The current nuisance is that MPLAB (6.6) is complaining that the path is
> longer than 62 characters.
> Error 173 I think.
>
> We have been there before, I should remember the cure.
> I should be able to find it in the archives, but so far, no joy.
>
> John Ferrell
>
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2004\11\17@193310 by Mauricio Giovagnini

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I used 'subst' which is on all windows ;)

You can type

subst driveletter: path

on command line and it works ;)

Dave Lag wrote:

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2004\11\18@000451 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 06:48 PM 11/17/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>In w98 I think the old DOS assign command works to assign a drive letter
>to the path?

I use the subst command in a .bat file in my startup folder to map My
Documents into
a drive. It also deals with programs that have problems with spaces in paths.

Best regards,

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2004\11\19@190600 by Bob Barr

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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:35:51 -0500, "John Ferrell" wrote:

>I am working on problem reruns.
>The current nuisance is that MPLAB (6.6) is complaining that the path is
>longer than 62 characters.
>Error 173 I think.
>
>We have been there before, I should remember the cure.
>I should be able to find it in the archives, but so far, no joy.
>
>The easy workaround is to put the source directory closer to the root, but
>that is a cop out...
>

Since the path length limitation is a characteristic of the .COD file
format, there's not really much that can be done other than either
shortening the path or suppressing .COD file generation.


Regards, Bob


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2004\11\19@192808 by John J. McDonough

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From: "Bob Barr" <RemoveMEbbarrTakeThisOuTspamcalifornia.com>
Subject: Re: [PIC] All PIC problems solved?


> Since the path length limitation is a characteristic of the .COD file
> format, there's not really much that can be done other than either
> shortening the path or suppressing .COD file generation.

Well you can cheat.

If you share a folder closer to your source directory, then you can create a
project on that folder, rather than the actual drive.

For example, I have a share at C:\Documents and Settings\John J.
McDonough\My Documents\Projects

Within that I have a PIC\Elmer folder

I can use that share as L: and now the path to my .COD file is L:\PIC\Elmer\
which is a whole bunch shorter.

--McD


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2004\11\19@204535 by John Ferrell

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I think that was the one I was looking for!
I like to keep as much as possible in My Documents just to simplify backups.

John Ferrell
My Competition is not my enemy!
http://DixieNC.US

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2004\11\20@175908 by Gerhard Fiedler

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>>> Since the path length limitation is a characteristic of the .COD file
>>> format, there's not really much that can be done other than either
>>> shortening the path or suppressing .COD file generation.

>> If you share a folder closer to your source directory, then you can
>> create  a project on that folder, rather than the actual drive.
>>
>> For example, I have a share at C:\Documents and Settings\John J.
>> McDonough\My Documents\Projects
>>
>> Within that I have a PIC\Elmer folder
>>
>> I can use that share as L: and now the path to my .COD file is
>> L:\PIC\Elmer\ which is a whole bunch shorter.

> I think that was the one I was looking for! I like to keep as much as
> possible in My Documents just to simplify backups.

You can:
- use a share. You may have to pay attention to the permissions if you are
on a network. This is best for long term use, and you really should know
what you're doing if you are not behind a hardware firewall like what comes
with most routers.
- use the subst command. This is a quickie, useful for quick one-time
solutions, and doesn't have any security implications (unlike the share
approach), because the subst drive is treated like a local drive.
- move the whole My Documents folder with its really long path to a shorter
path (right-click on the My Documents folder and set a more convenient
target folder -- mine is E:\Docs\). This also allows you to keep this data
on a partition that's different from your system partition, with has a
number of advantages.

Gerhard
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2004\11\22@063435 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Back in the good ol' days we could talk about the
>Christmas spirit but now I guess it's only politically
>correct to refer to it as the early winter retail
>holiday spectacular.  :-(

Oh, you mean the annual redistibution of wealth :))

I have helped make the list a bit quieter, been off for a week on an Orcad
training course. Part of the freebies from it was a natty little 4 port USB
hub.

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2004\11\22@074817 by John J. McDonough

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan B. Pearce" <spamBeGoneA.B.PearcespamBeGonespamrl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [PIC] All PIC problems solved?


> natty little 4 port USB hub.

Now there's a word I haven't heard since the first volume of The
Hitchhiker's Guide.  Must be that one never really made it to the colonies.

--McD



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2004\11\22@111903 by William Chops Westfield

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On Nov 22, 2004, at 3:34 AM, Alan B. Pearce wrote:

>> early winter retail holiday spectacular.  :-(
>
> Oh, you mean the annual redistibution of wealth :))

Nah.  That happens about 15-April, at least in the US.

BillW

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