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'[PIC] - Flowcode or C?'
2011\04\04@135701 by geetansh arora

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Thanks to all for helping me
I have started working on the ideas given by all of you n will disturb
you again if i face any problems. ;-)
I am new here and i never thought that some of you will comment on my
English and writing skills.I am from India and in north India most of
the people use Hindi much more than English.I know my English is not
good and i have started working on it but i cant learn English in a
day so please try to ignore my mistakes till then.
Sorry to everyone!
and i will try not to write any abbreviations from now.

Now something related to PIC
I have just started working on micro-controllers and i am using
flowcode so i need advice you all as you know what will be better for
me, using flowcode is good or i should do everything in C?
Thank yo

2011\04\04@141343 by Olin Lathrop

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geetansh arora wrote:
> I have just started working on micro-controllers and i am using
> flowcode so i need advice you all as you know what will be better for
> me, using flowcode is good or i should do everything in C?

What is flowcode, and why do you think those are the only two choices?  What
are you trying to accomplish, get a specific project done or learn about
PICs in general?


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2011\04\04@141821 by Andre Abelian

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Go with C.


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From: geetansh arora <spam_OUTgeetansh19coolTakeThisOuTspamgmail.com>
To: piclist <.....piclistKILLspamspam@spam@mit.edu>
Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 10:57:00 AM
Subject: [PIC] - Flowcode or C?

Thanks to all for helping me
I have started working on the ideas given by all of you n will disturb
you again if i face any problems. ;-)
I am new here and i never thought that some of you will comment on my
English and writing skills.I am from India and in north India most of
the people use Hindi much more than English.I know my English is not
good and i have started working on it but i cant learn English in a
day so please try to ignore my mistakes till then.
Sorry to everyone!
and i will try not to write any abbreviations from now.

Now something related to PIC
I have just started working on micro-controllers and i am using
flowcode so i need advice you all as you know what will be better for
me, using flowcode is good or i should do everything in C?
Thank yo

2011\04\04@153431 by Michael Watterson

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On 04/04/2011 19:18, Andre Abelian wrote:
> Go with C.

C for ARM cpu, Microchip 24 dsp MIPs etc

but for 10F, 12F, 16F and 18F also look a JAL.
Very good libraries
Very efficient
http://www.justanotherlanguage.org/

It's JALV2 really

Ideas from C, BASIC and pascal/Modula-2 form the language.


2011\04\04@170715 by Jan-Erik Soderholm

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geetansh arora wrote 2011-04-04 19:57:
> Thanks to all for helping me
> I have started working on the ideas given by all of you n will disturb
> you again if i face any problems. ;-)
> I am new here and i never thought that some of you will comment on my
> English and writing skills.I am from India and in north India most of
> the people use Hindi much more than English.I know my English is not
> good and i have started working on it but i cant learn English in a
> day so please try to ignore my mistakes till then.
> Sorry to everyone!
> and i will try not to write any abbreviations from now.
>
> Now something related to PIC
> I have just started working on micro-controllers and i am using
> flowcode so i need advice you all as you know what will be better for
> me, using flowcode is good or i should do everything in C?
> Thank you

It's also an old advice for someone who has just started with PIC's to
write some projects in assembler first. At least if one realy want to
understand how they work "under the hood", so to speak.

Is anyone realy using this "flowcode" for anything serious ?

> ...and i never thought that some of you will comment on my English...

I don't think anyone actualy commented on your English as such.
You have no problen with that, as far as I can see. :-

2011\04\04@172734 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> Is anyone realy using this "flowcode" for anything serious ?

That is the perfect one-line summary of how I feel about flowcode :)

Use C, Jal, or even Basic or assembler. Forth if you want. But flowcode .... Maybe if you grew up with Lego Mindstorm?

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2011\04\04@175511 by Nicola Perotto

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On 04/04/2011 18.14, Olin Lathrop wrote:
>
> What is flowcode, and why do you think those are the only two choices?  What
> are you trying to accomplish, get a specific project done or learn about
> PICs in general?
>
Sometime the responses of Olin, maybe, are a little questionable but
his questions are ever very good!

2011\04\04@180615 by Andre Abelian

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Well this is interesting I found some info. it is flow chart base coding.
it generates C and Asm http://www.matrixmultimedia.com/datasheets/TEFLC4-60-7.pdf

AA






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From: Nicola Perotto <nicolaspamKILLspamnicolaperotto.it>
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Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 2:57:45 PM
Subject: Re: [PIC] - Flowcode or C?



On 04/04/2011 18.14, Olin Lathrop wrote:
>
> What is flowcode, and why do you think those are the only two choices?  What
> are you trying to accomplish, get a specific project done or learn about
> PICs in general?
>
Sometime the responses of Olin, maybe, are a little questionable but
his questions are ever very good!

2011\04\05@021339 by cdb

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:: have just started working on micro-controllers and i am using
:: flowcode so i need advice you all as you know what will be better
:: for
:: me, using flowcode is good or i should do everything in C?

I think this depends on what you want to do later on.

1. If you intend to use it for personal and hobby use then Flow Code is just as good as any other type of rapid programming environment.

The draw back is that only Elektor magazine really promotes it and you are restricted in the amount of people who could help you with coding problems you might have, because, as you've read so far, not many people on this list for example even know what Flow Code is and those who do probably don't use it. Note though, you may still need to know some C and Assembler, recently Elektor published a project which needed some C and assembler code as the Flow Code library didn't have the functions required.

2. If you want to be able to share your code or eventually make a project and code for the Pic community or professionally, then C and Assembler is the better choice, as you'll be able to share it and more people will be able to read the code.

3. If you get stuck on some code, there is lots of C and Assembler for Pic's available, you'll be restricted to Elektor or Matrix Multimedia support forums if you use Flow Code.

In the end it is whatever you feel most comfortable with. Flow Code can write some powerful programs, it's just not the standard the rest of the Pic world is used to.

Colin
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