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2008\11\09@005047 by mamouda

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> PicDude wrote:
> > Microchip will provide a VID/PID at no charge (AFAIR) as long as you are
> > using their products and are producing no more than 10,000 units of the
> > product.
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> But I would like to hear from someone who has actually walked that road.
> Details like how long it took, how many forms hadc to be filled in, etc.
>


It's not taking long to get a VID/PID from Microchip. You'll have to use Microchip products.
Just fill in one formular (application for a sublicense) and fax it to Microchip. After your application have been processed and approved you'll get a VID/PID  (VID,Microchip).

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2008\11\09@024417 by Wouter van Ooijen

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>> But I would like to hear from someone who has actually walked that road.
>> Details like how long it took, how many forms hadc to be filled in, etc.
>
> It's not taking long to get a VID/PID from Microchip. You'll have to use Microchip products.
> Just fill in one formular (application for a sublicense) and fax it to Microchip. After your application have been processed and approved you'll get a VID/PID  (VID,Microchip).

How do you know (did you actually go through this process?), and could
you quantify 'not long'?

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2008\11\09@131115 by Bob Ammerman

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>> PicDude wrote:
>> > Microchip will provide a VID/PID at no charge (AFAIR) as long as you
>> > are
>> > using their products and are producing no more than 10,000 units of the
>> > product.

Why can mChip do this but Wouter got shut down by the USB folks.

Probably the fact the mChip is a big $$ USB company and Wouter isn't :-(

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2008\11\09@134204 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> Why can mChip do this but Wouter got shut down by the USB folks.
>
> Probably the fact the mChip is a big $$ USB company and Wouter isn't :-(

No, not all evil is caused by the big $$ companies :)

usb.org has a known 'exception' to their (apparent)
no-transfer-of-PID/VID policy that allows a hardware manufacturer to
give a PID to a customer, for use with its products. IIRC it must be for
a specific product from the hardware manufacturer, and for a specific
product of the customer, and it is one PID, not a block of PIDs. I read
that FTDI (manufacturer of FT232RL etc.) is also willing to provide a
PID in this way.

What I do not know (but would like to hear from first hand) is how easy
this process is in practice. If it is easy, I can add this info to my
shop as alternative to the PID blocks I used to sell. I mainly sell
chips, and buyers of USB chips will ultimately need a PID, so if I can't
sell them a PID I might as well tell them how to get one (if it is
feasible for a small player to get a PID this way, that's why I wouldm
like to hear from someone who did this).

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Wouter van Ooijen

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