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> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremy Darling [SMTP:spam_OUTjdarlingTakeThisOuTASKPIONEER.COM] > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 3:15 PM > To: .....PICLISTKILLspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [PIC]:PIC Programmer (Newbie) > > I didn't ask my question very well. I was wondering if a programmer for > the 628 would work on the 676 or if I was going to have to buy or build a > different programmer. > The basic diy programmers are essentialy the same for all the flash type PIC's, you are unlikely to need any new hardware (apart from a simple adapter if your programmer does not have the correct socket). It really boils down to wether your programming software supports the 676 device. Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. ======================================================================= Any questions about Bookham's E-Mail service should be directed to postmasterKILLspambookham.com. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspam.....mitvma.mit.edu>

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Jeremy Darling wrote: > I didn't ask my question very well. I was wondering if a programmer > for the 628 would work on the 676 or if I was going to have to buy or > build a different programmer. FYI: It would be helpful if you'd turn on line wrap so your text wraps at something less than 80 characters. Thanks. As for programmers, a programmer that dies 12F6xx should do most other PICs as well, other than really old ones. If the software supports them you should be good to go. Dale -- It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off. Get a PicoKeyer: http://www.hamgadgets.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList EraseMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu>

At 09:23 AM 6/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Jeremy Darling wrote: > > > I didn't ask my question very well. I was wondering if a programmer > > for the 628 would work on the 676 or if I was going to have to buy or > > build a different programmer. > >FYI: It would be helpful if you'd turn on line wrap so your text wraps at >something less than 80 characters. Thanks. > >As for programmers, a programmer that dies 12F6xx should do most other >PICs as well, other than really old ones. If the software supports them >you should be good to go. > >Dale It should read and then write back some of the factory-programmed EEPROM data, otherwise you'll lose calibration of the Bandgap and internal clock, even if the rest of the chip programs properly. The last time I used a Picstart+ it didn't seem to do this properly. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speffspam_OUTinterlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList @spam@piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu>

>> I was wondering if a programmer for >> the 628 would work on the 676 >>> I'm using JAL (just to get used to PIC's until I can learn Using Jal (or any other programming language) has nothing to do with the question. A programmer that can handle a 16F84 can *hardwarewise* handle all flash PICs (except that the correct PGM pin must be pulled low, and maybe you have a problem with the PICs that need a Vcc-before-Vpp sequence!), but the software must support the 16F676. If you use Wisp628 with it does support the 16F630/676. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList KILLspampiclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu>

> Using Jal (or any other programming language) has nothing to do with the > question. A programmer that can handle a 16F84 can *hardwarewise* handle > all flash PICs (except that the correct PGM pin must be pulled low, and > maybe you have a problem with the PICs that need a Vcc-before-Vpp > sequence!), but the software must support the 16F676. If you use Wisp628 > with it does support the 16F630/676. Might I add that you MAY also have to tie the LPV pin, on PICs that have that feature (the 84 does not). TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList RemoveMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu>

Dale, > > FYI: It would be helpful if you'd turn on line wrap so your > text wraps at something less than 80 characters. Thanks. A good email reader such as Microsoft Outlook should wrap received messages. Let me guess, you are using Pine on Linux. ;-) Tal -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList spamBeGonepiclist-unsubscribe-requestspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu>

Tal <TakeThisOuTtalEraseMEspam_OUTZAPTA.COM> said: > A good email reader such as Microsoft Outlook should wrap received > messages. > > Let me guess, you are using Pine on Linux. Usually, yes, and it wraps at the screen edge anyway so no big deal. It doesn't bother *ME*, but there are people on the list who tend to bitch and whine about line wraps, so I figured I'd do a little pre-emptive suggestion to try and avoid seeing the whole subject re-hashed *yet again*. Dale -- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList RemoveMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu>

> I didn't ask my question very well. I was wondering if a programmer > for the 628 would work on the 676 or if I was going to have to buy or > build a different programmer. By the way, PICs have names that start with "16F", "18F", etc. Yes, the 12F629, 16F630, 12F675, and 16F676 are very similar and use the same programming algorithm and pinout. A programmer that can do one should be able to do the others. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestEraseME.....mitvma.mit.edu>

> > all flash PICs (except that the correct PGM pin must be > pulled low, > Might I add that you MAY also have to tie the LPV > pin, on PICs that have that feature (the 84 does not). Of course you might add, but I already stated the same :) Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList EraseMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestmitvma.mit.edu>

Man, what is this, 1980? :) Embrace the new technology of line-wrapping! > Even better would be to learn to use the ENTER key to give a > smooth and easy-to-read text. Wrapping at aprox 60 chars is > often fine. > > A small price to pay while typing to make life easier > to everyone reading... > > Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList RemoveMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestEraseMEEraseMEmitvma.mit.edu>

Olin Lathrop <RemoveMEPICLISTspam_OUTKILLspammitvma.mit.edu> wrote: > By the way, PICs have names that start with "16F", "18F", etc. You mean "PICmicros have ....", right? -Andy === Andrew Warren -- RemoveMEaiwTakeThisOuTspamcypress.com === Principal Design Engineer === Cypress Semiconductor Corporation === === Opinions expressed above do not === necessarily represent those of === Cypress Semiconductor Corporation -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList EraseMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestspamspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu>

On Monday 30 June 2003 10:36, Herbert Graf scribbled: > > Using Jal (or any other programming language) has nothing to do with the > > question. A programmer that can handle a 16F84 can *hardwarewise* handle > > all flash PICs (except that the correct PGM pin must be pulled low, and > > maybe you have a problem with the PICs that need a Vcc-before-Vpp > > sequence!), but the software must support the 16F676. If you use Wisp628 > > with it does support the 16F630/676. > > Might I add that you MAY also have to tie the LPV pin, on PICs that > have that feature (the 84 does not). TTYL I'll assume you meant "LVP", but isn't that just another name for the PGM pin? Cheers, -Neil. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads