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'[PIC]:Need help picking: warp-13 or ISP-PRO'
2002\12\08@191911 by Frank Soria

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I am undecided between the warp-13 and Basicmicro
ISP-PRO Rev3.0.

I like the fact that the warp-13 supports all the PIC
chipset.

I like the ISP-PRO because I can add the development
board (power supply, breadboard, MAX232, all wired up
and ready to go) or smart ZIF socket by using the
RJ11.

I would like some feedback on both boards to help me
make my decision.

I am still undecided if I will be programming ASM or
BASIC. Maybe I will use BASIC to prototype and ASM for
the finished product.

Also what is ICD? I guess debuggin info sent back
during execution on the chip?

Thanks,


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2002\12\08@202116 by Sid Weaver

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In a message dated 12/08/2002 19:19:34 Eastern Standard Time,
spam_OUTendyiiTakeThisOuTspamYAHOO.COM writes:


> I like the fact that the warp-13 supports all the PIC
> chipset.
>

I have been using the WARP-13 for about a year with no problems at all.  If
you buy it from Renton instant support is just an e-mail away.
Sid Weaver
W4EKQ
Port Richey, FL

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2002\12\08@202526 by Josh Koffman

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I can't comment on the ISP-PRO, but I do own a Warp-13a. I am quite
satisfied with it. Does all I need so far. I just upgraded to the latest
firmware, and I'm about to start using ICSP too. Hope it all goes well.
Jim has added alot of features with the new firmware, though I fear
there may not be that many more updates. I think Jim is working on some
new programmers. And, FWIW, I prefer to use the Warp software vs.
programming within MPLAB.

Josh
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Frank Soria wrote:
> I am undecided between the warp-13 and Basicmicro
> ISP-PRO Rev3.0.

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2002\12\08@202737 by Sid Weaver

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Type.  Should have written Rentron.

Sid Weaver
W4EKQ
Port Richey, FL

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2002\12\09@214733 by Jim Robertson

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>can't comment on the ISP-PRO, but I do own a Warp-13a. I am quite
>satisfied with it. Does all I need so far. I just upgraded to the latest
>firmware, and I'm about to start using ICSP too. Hope it all goes well.
>Jim has added alot of features with the new firmware, though I fear there
>may not be that many more updates. I think Jim is working on some new
>programmers. And, FWIW, I prefer to use the Warp software vs. programming
>within MPLAB.
>Josh

Fear not, the WARP-13 will not be left behind (and I may still continue to
produce it as a "hobby level" programmer) There are some user upgrades that
can be done to the WARP-13 hardware and I can foreshadow a 20MHz firmware
upgrade (will be a free download). Next time you are buying from
digikey etc, grab a spare ZTT20.0M ceramic resonator and maybe some wire
wrap wire as I may transpose two pair of I/O pins to make the hardware
UART available. Currently the WARP-13 is bit banged as a legacy of its
design on the 16C57 based WARP-3. Bit banged comms is not suitable for high
speed
comms or a USB-RS232 convertor as there are latency issues on the CTS/RTS
handshake that require hardware buffering and maybe a ISR too.

With 1000's sold the WARP-13 will not be left behind,

Regards,

Jim Robertson
NEWFOUND ELECTRONICS






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2002\12\10@113046 by Josh Koffman

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Thank you for the reassurance Jim, muchly appreciated. FWIW I have
actually got my Warp13 to work on my Entrega USB hub+serial port
convertor. I had to play with the values in the Byte Padding Delay
though.

Josh
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