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2003\01\16@160820 by PICFUN

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I am a begginer using pics to my circuits and i would like to see some
projects using my begginer pic 16f84 or 16c84. I have already search the web
for examples but i have found only 5-6.

Thankxxx!!!



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2003\01\16@161447 by Olin Lathrop

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> I am a begginer using pics to my circuits and i would like to see some
> projects using my begginer pic 16f84 or 16c84. I have already search the
web
> for examples but i have found only 5-6.

There are many different PIC variants, so the number of projects that
specifically use the 16F84 is small compared to the total.  By the way,
the 16F84 is obsolete.  The 16F628 does more, costs less, and has the same
pinout.

If you are just starting, look at the 18 family.  The 18F252 is a nice
starter chip.  The 18 family is more flexible and easier to learn due to
reduced hassles with register banking and elimination of program memory
paging.


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2003\01\16@163325 by Tony Nixon

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PICFUN wrote:
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> I am a begginer using pics to my circuits and i would like to see some
> projects using my begginer pic 16f84 or 16c84. I have already search the web
> for examples but i have found only 5-6.
>
> Thankxxx!!!

See web site below :-)

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2003\01\16@170219 by Josh Koffman

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An oft overlooked resource is the piclist.com website
(http://www.piclist.com). There you will find beginner's projects, code
libraries, and checklists. Browse around there for awhile, you're almost
sure to find something you like.

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PICFUN wrote:
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> I am a begginer using pics to my circuits and i would like to see some
> projects using my begginer pic 16f84 or 16c84. I have already search the web
> for examples but i have found only 5-6.

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2003\01\17@014115 by Siiskonen, Pekka
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Olin Lathrop [olin_piclistspamspam_OUTEMBEDINC.COM]
> Sent: 16. tammikuuta 2003 23:14
> Subject: Re: [PIC]: projects using pic16f84
> -- By the way, the 16F84 is obsolete.  The 16F628 does more,
> costs less, and has the same pinout --

... and in the hinderland Finland it is practically impossible for a
hobbyist to get them over the counter, as none of the component retail shops
I have visited here seem to stock it.

Apparently the retail outlets here are still filled with PIC16F84's so that
they aren't yet keen on the better cheaper chip.

Yes -- I can get it mail order, but the cost of ordering makes it more
expensive (hobbyists aren't ordering by the tube!).

Pekka Siiskonen

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2003\01\17@040708 by Mike Singer

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Siiskonen, Pekka wrote:
> > -- By the way, the 16F84 is obsolete.  The 16F628 does more,
> > costs less, and has the same pinout --
>
> ... and in the hinderland Finland it is practically impossible for a
> hobbyist to get them over the counter, as none of the component
> retail shops I have visited here seem to stock it.
...
> Yes -- I can get it mail order, but the cost of ordering makes it
> more expensive (hobbyists aren't ordering by the tube!).


If you understand Russian, may be you should try:

http://www.gamma.vyborg.ru

or

http://www.gamma.spb.ru

I won't be surprised, if these guys have their representative
somewhere in Finland.

  Mike.

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2003\01\17@042258 by Siiskonen, Pekka

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Singer [@spam@msingerKILLspamspamPOLUOSTROV.NET]
> Sent: 17. tammikuuta 2003 10:12
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> -- If you understand Russian, may be you should try: --

No luck, even the russian alfabets are impossible ;(

Pekka Siiskonen

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2003\01\17@063924 by Vasile Surducan

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pic project seasons, eeh ?

searching with google for PIC16F84 will return you more than 2000 pages.
Why are you lazy my friend ?
Searching on the net it's a part from your project final note.

regards,
Vasile
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2003\01\17@071711 by PICFUN

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Thanks a lot to people that answer to me. I am from Greece and it is no such
a problem to found the 16f84. But it costs 8 euros! Is it cheap for "a
cheap" picmicro?
Has anyone a simple schemmatic for 16F628 programmer? I also would like to
hear about a project that you can programm gameboy cartidges with built-in
flash memory.

Thankxxx again to all piclist!

Yorgos


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2003\01\17@072049 by Orhan GAZI

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Yes Vasile I agree with you!

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pic project seasons, eeh ?

searching with google for PIC16F84 will return you more than 2000 pages.
Why are you lazy my friend ?
Searching on the net it's a part from your project final note.

regards,
Vasile
http://www.geocities.com/vsurducan/electro/PIC/pic.htm


On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, PICFUN wrote:

> I am a begginer using pics to my circuits and i would like to see some
> projects using my begginer pic 16f84 or 16c84. I have already search
the web
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2003\01\17@093237 by Jan-Erik Soderholm

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> I am from Greece and it is no such
> a problem to found the 16f84. But it costs 8 euros! Is it cheap for "a
> cheap" picmicro?

A quick look at Farnell :

16F84A, single quantity  : aprox 6.5 EUR
16F628, single quantity : aprox 5.0 UER.

And the 16F628 is a *much* better chip !

Is there any reason *at all* to begin today with
the 16F84 ???

Jan-Erik Soderholm
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2003\01\17@152322 by Peter L. Peres

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> reason not to use 628

Yes: not being in a country where the local dealers read the piclist
messages. Like here.

Peter

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2003\01\17@155751 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> a problem to found the 16f84. But it costs 8 euros!
> Is it cheap for "a cheap" picmicro?

NO
for small amounts, check http://www.voti.nl/shop, http://www.phanderso.com,
http://www.dontronics.com, ...
for larger amounts http://www.digikey.com, ....

> Has anyone a simple schemmatic for 16F628 programmer?

http://www.voti.nl/wisp628, http://www.ic-prog.com

And do read http://www.voti.nl/swp (which of course contains all of the
above links and much more).

Wouter van Ooijen

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2003\01\17@155758 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> Yes -- I can get it mail order, but the cost of ordering makes it more
> expensive (hobbyists aren't ordering by the tube!).

But won't that cancel out when buying just a few chips? S/H from my shop
is just US 7.00, phanderson also has very low S/H costs.

Wouter van Ooijen

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2003\01\20@202205 by john chung

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PICFUN wrote:

> Thanks a lot to people that answer to me. I am from Greece and it is no such
> a problem to found the 16f84. But it costs 8 euros! Is it cheap for "a
> cheap" picmicro?

   In malaysia it cost RM 18.00. Buying power here is much lower here.


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