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2005\07\08@150756 by Peter

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I cannot access http://www.piclist.com and haven't been able to for some time
now (days). My previous caustic remark on this went unheeded (thanks).
Can anyone confirm that this is the case ?

thanks,
Peter

2005\07\08@152240 by Josh Koffman

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It works fine for me. I'd tell you to search the archives for James's
messages about how to verify why you can't, but as you can't hit the
archive...
(Courtesy of James)

If your IP was blocked, you would get a message saying that your IP was
blocked and explaining why.

Can you reach:
http://66.13.172.18/techref/piclist/index.htm ? If so, the problem is DNS.

Can you reach:
http://www.quickstepper.com ? If so, the problem is with the headers sent
back by the PICList site. Quickstepper is on the same site but is a very
simple, "out of the box" configuration of IIS. PICList has a batch of stuff
installed. Why some people can deal with it and other can't is an ongoing
mystery. It may be caused by a problem with some node in the route between
your ISP and mine, or by your browser, or god knows what.

If you can't reach any of them, your ISP or something between your ISP and
mine is messed up. They will never believe this, but you can prove it to
them by using a proxy server on another network.

For example:
http://www.the-cloak.com/Cloaked/+cfg=32/http://www.piclist.com/techref/picl
ist/index.htm After you click on this link, it will ask you for some
configuration info and you should check the URL in the lower left corner to
ensure it is still www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm
(sometimes the "http:" turns into "http%3A" or the "//" becomes a "/") then
press the "Start Surfing" button.

If you see the web site, search the page for the text "local time: " and
make a note of the servers clock setting. It should show PDT (Pacific
Daylight Time) or PST after daylight savings ends.

Hit refresh and verify that it is changing.

If you see the web site, and the time is updating, the web server is UP. If
you cant see the site directly, then your ISP, or their upstream and nothing
else, is the problem. Do a tracert and email it to your ISP's tech support
along with your findings and this email.


Josh
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On 7/8/05, Peter <spam_OUTplpTakeThisOuTspamactcom.co.il> wrote:
>
> I cannot access http://www.piclist.com and haven't been able to for some time
> now (days). My previous caustic remark on this went unheeded (thanks).
> Can anyone confirm that this is the case ?

2005\07\08@152934 by olin piclist

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Peter wrote:
> I cannot access http://www.piclist.com and haven't been able to for some time
> now (days). My previous caustic remark on this went unheeded (thanks).
> Can anyone confirm that this is the case ?

Yes, I saw no response to your previous remark either.

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2005\07\08@160213 by Harold Hallikainen

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I missed the previous remark, but I am getting good responses from both
http://www.piclist.org and http://www.piclist.com .

Harold


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2005\07\08@171207 by Tom Smith

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Last August the piclist moved to mailman and I received an email welcoming
me to the piclist (again) and giving me a new password. In May of this year
I had a problem accessing the piclist and I requested a password reminder.
It was the "new" password. Fast-forward to this month and I had a problem
accessing the piclist: my (new) password was not a valid password on the
server. So I looked up my previous password and tried that and I gained
access to the list. My theory is that there was some information loss at the
server end and a backup was used which contained my old password.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: .....piclist-bouncesKILLspamspam@spam@mit.edu [piclist-bouncesspamKILLspammit.edu]On Behalf Of
Peter
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:08 PM
To: pic microcontroller discussion list
Subject: [PIC]: piclist.com web access: ng


I cannot access http://www.piclist.com and haven't been able to for some time
now (days). My previous caustic remark on this went unheeded (thanks).
Can anyone confirm that this is the case ?

thanks,
Peter

2005\07\08@184503 by Carey Fisher - NCS

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  > If your IP was blocked, you would get a message saying that your IP was
  > blocked and explaining why.
  >
  > Can you reach:
  > http://66.13.172.18/techref/piclist/index.htm ? If so, the
  > problem is DNS.
  >
  > Can you reach:
  > http://www.quickstepper.com ? If so, the problem is with the
  > headers sent
  > back by the PICList site. Quickstepper is on the same site but
  > is a very
  > simple, "out of the box" configuration of IIS. PICList has a
  > batch of stuff
  > installed. Why some people can deal with it and other can't is
  > an ongoing
  > mystery. It may be caused by a problem with some node in the
  > route between
  > your ISP and mine, or by your browser, or god knows what.
  >
 
Josh
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Josh,
I've been working this problem on and off with James for a long
while and still haven't solved it.  I can't reach http://www.piclist.com
nor  http://66.13.172.18/techref/piclist/index.htm  but I can
reach http://www.quickstepper.com.

Any more troubleshooting hints?

Thanks,
Carey

All Your Bucks Are Belong To US Govt


2005\07\08@231031 by Josh Koffman

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Hi Carey. I'm going to have to defer to James on this one. Hopefully
he will pipe in soon.

Josh
--
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools.
       -Douglas Adams

On 7/8/05, Carey Fisher - NCS <.....careyfisherKILLspamspam.....ncsradio.com> wrote:
> I've been working this problem on and off with James for a long
> while and still haven't solved it.  I can't reach http://www.piclist.com
> nor  http://66.13.172.18/techref/piclist/index.htm  but I can
> reach http://www.quickstepper.com.

2005\07\09@034652 by Peter

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In response to my own message and to suggestions posted here:

>Can you reach: http://66.13.172.18/techref/piclist/index.htm ? If so,
>the problem is DNS.

Reach, yes, access, no. The page tries to load indefinitely without
showing anything.

>Can you reach: http://www.quickstepper.com ? If so, the problem is with
>the headers sent back by the PICList site.

Yes, but all the images show blank, and when I try to load them by force
the same as above occurs (tries to load indefinitely)

>Can you reach: http://www.quickstepper.com ? If so, the problem is with
>the headers sent back by the PICList site.

Yes, and it all works (with all the switches in default position).

Further experimentation reveals (using lynx):

user input -> http://www.piclist.com
<-                cookie ASPSESSIONID=EOILDICDCAILHP
redirect   -> www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm
<- 500 Server Error
<- HTTP/1.1 Application Restarting

again, with wget:

plp@plp:~/piclist$ wget -s http://www.piclist.com
--10:42:51--  http://www.piclist.com/
           => `index.html'
Resolving http://www.piclist.com... 66.13.172.18
Connecting to http://www.piclist.com[66.13.172.18]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Object moved
Location: http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm [following]
--10:42:52--  www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm
           => `index.htm'
Connecting to http://www.piclist.com[66.13.172.18]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Server Error
10:42:52 ERROR 500: Server Error.

Peter

2005\07\09@084153 by Josh Koffman

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Well that's odd. I can only say that you need to talk to James...he's
the only one who really knows how the webserver works.

Josh
--
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools.
       -Douglas Adams

On 7/9/05, Peter <EraseMEplpspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTactcom.co.il> wrote:
>
> In response to my own message and to suggestions posted here:
<snip>

2005\07\09@112539 by Derward

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Subject: Re: [PIC]: piclist.com web access: ng


Peter wrote:
I cannot access http://www.piclist.com and haven't been able to for some time
now (days).


I have the same problem.  I have DSL and it will start searching and the
activity bar stops and it will just set there.  However last night I tried
it and it came up as if there was no problem.  It has not come up since
then.  For some reason it is useless to me.

Derward

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