Post by thread:[PIC]: ZIF sockets, sources for

I've had pretty much zero luck trying to find an 18-pin ZIF socket for the DIP style PIC16F628. Well, two, at least. It is a pain to keep pulling the chip from the programmer and circuits I am working with. Does anyone make 18-Pin ZIF sockets? Are there suggestions for a better alternative? I know I could get a chip puller, but I would prefer a ZIF socket for at least the programmer I have. I would be willing to make an adapter for it, should it come to that, so that a larger ZIF socket could be accomodated. Right now, I suppose, I am very open to suggestions on ways to alleviate my frustration with the "pry up with a small screwdriver" method of pulling a chip from a socket. Sabachka -- spam_OUTsabachka-piclistTakeThisOuToddmagic.net You know it is going to be a bad day when you forget your new password. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email .....listservKILLspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Why tie yourself down to supporting just one PIC? I use a 28-pin ZIF socket, plugged into a small piece of breadboard. This way, I can move a couple wires and switch between various PICs. Another alternative is to use a "DIP-clip", made by 3M or others. Mouser has a lower-cost brand, but I can't remember it offhand. You can clip it over the chip. BTW, I also put my chips on machine-pin sockets, which seem to must easier to pull up from the breadboard (of the circuit in development), and more durable than the PIC's pins. Cheers, -Neil. On Monday 18 August 2003 17:35, Sabachka scribbled: {Quote hidden}> I've had pretty much zero luck trying to find an 18-pin ZIF socket for > the DIP style PIC16F628. Well, two, at least. It is a pain to keep > pulling the chip from the programmer and circuits I am working with. > > Does anyone make 18-Pin ZIF sockets? Are there suggestions for a better > alternative? > > I know I could get a chip puller, but I would prefer a ZIF socket for at > least the programmer I have. I would be willing to make an adapter for > it, should it come to that, so that a larger ZIF socket could be > accomodated. Right now, I suppose, I am very open to suggestions on ways > to alleviate my frustration with the "pry up with a small screwdriver" > method of pulling a chip from a socket. > > Sabachka -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Try http://www.futurlec.com they have 18pin Zif type sockets for U$4.00 plus postage. Colin -- cdb, .....bodgy1KILLspam.....optusnet.com.au on 19.08.2003 I have always been a few Dendrites short of an Axon and believe me it shows. Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until they speak! -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email EraseMElistservspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

3M Textool makes 18P DIP sockets. Google for it. --Bob At 03:35 PM 8/18/2003 -0700, you wrote: {Quote hidden}>I've had pretty much zero luck trying to find an 18-pin ZIF socket for >the DIP style PIC16F628. Well, two, at least. It is a pain to keep >pulling the chip from the programmer and circuits I am working with. > >Does anyone make 18-Pin ZIF sockets? Are there suggestions for a better >alternative? > >I know I could get a chip puller, but I would prefer a ZIF socket for at >least the programmer I have. I would be willing to make an adapter for >it, should it come to that, so that a larger ZIF socket could be >accomodated. Right now, I suppose, I am very open to suggestions on ways >to alleviate my frustration with the "pry up with a small screwdriver" >method of pulling a chip from a socket. > >Sabachka > >-- >sabachka-piclistspam_OUToddmagic.net > >You know it is going to be a bad day when you forget your new >password. > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email @spam@listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -------------- Bob Axtell PIC Hardware & Firmware Dev Tucson, AZ 1-512-219-2363 -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email KILLspamlistservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Actually, I'm wrong about that. They DON'T make 18P sockets anymore. The smallest they go is 24P. Sorry. --Bob At 04:07 PM 8/18/2003 -0700, you wrote: {Quote hidden}>3M Textool makes 18P DIP sockets. Google for it. > >--Bob > > >At 03:35 PM 8/18/2003 -0700, you wrote: >>I've had pretty much zero luck trying to find an 18-pin ZIF socket for >>the DIP style PIC16F628. Well, two, at least. It is a pain to keep >>pulling the chip from the programmer and circuits I am working with. >> >>Does anyone make 18-Pin ZIF sockets? Are there suggestions for a better >>alternative? >> >>I know I could get a chip puller, but I would prefer a ZIF socket for at >>least the programmer I have. I would be willing to make an adapter for >>it, should it come to that, so that a larger ZIF socket could be >>accomodated. Right now, I suppose, I am very open to suggestions on ways >>to alleviate my frustration with the "pry up with a small screwdriver" >>method of pulling a chip from a socket. >> >>Sabachka >> >>-- >>RemoveMEsabachka-piclistTakeThisOuToddmagic.net >> >>You know it is going to be a bad day when you forget your new >>password. >> >>-- >>http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >>email spamBeGonelistservspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > >-------------- >Bob Axtell >PIC Hardware & Firmware Dev >Tucson, AZ >1-512-219-2363 > >-- >http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! >email TakeThisOuTlistservEraseMEspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -------------- Bob Axtell PIC Hardware & Firmware Dev Tucson, AZ 1-512-219-2363 -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email RemoveMElistservTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Have you considered in circuit programming ? Tal {Quote hidden}> -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [PICLISTEraseME.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Sabachka > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:36 PM > To: EraseMEPICLISTMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: [PIC]: ZIF sockets, sources for > > > I've had pretty much zero luck trying to find an 18-pin ZIF > socket for the DIP style PIC16F628. Well, two, at least. It > is a pain to keep pulling the chip from the programmer and > circuits I am working with. > > Does anyone make 18-Pin ZIF sockets? Are there suggestions > for a better alternative? > > I know I could get a chip puller, but I would prefer a ZIF > socket for at least the programmer I have. I would be willing > to make an adapter for it, should it come to that, so that a > larger ZIF socket could be accomodated. Right now, I suppose, > I am very open to suggestions on ways to alleviate my > frustration with the "pry up with a small screwdriver" method > of pulling a chip from a socket. > > Sabachka > > -- > RemoveMEsabachka-piclistEraseMEEraseMEoddmagic.net > > You know it is going to be a bad day when you forget your new > password. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply > us! email RemoveMElistservspam_OUTKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email RemoveMElistservTakeThisOuTspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Thanks for the link! Pretty much exactly what I was after. :) Sabachka On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 08:45:33AM +1000, cdb wrote: > Try http://www.futurlec.com they have 18pin Zif type sockets for U$4.00 plus > postage. -- EraseMEsabachka-piclistspamspamBeGoneoddmagic.net How do I type "for i in *.dvi do xdvi i done" in a GUI? (Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of interfaces.) -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email RemoveMElistservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Well, it'll likely be quite a while before I move on to some of the higher powered / alternate sized PICs. I'm just starting on this, and have a tiny little parasitic programmer. The intention is to put the ZIF socket in it, which is likely going to be about the same size as the programmer, to make attaching / removing chips or adapters a heck of a lot easier. I'll keep the machine-pin sockets in mind, however, for later. What would probably make my life easiest would also be to start using the ICSP header on the programmer I have and program in circuit. Sabachka On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 05:52:38PM -0500, Picdude wrote: > Why tie yourself down to supporting just one PIC? I use a 28-pin ZIF socket, > plugged into a small piece of breadboard. This way, I can move a couple > wires and switch between various PICs. Another alternative is to use a > "DIP-clip", made by 3M or others. Mouser has a lower-cost brand, but I can't > remember it offhand. You can clip it over the chip. > > BTW, I also put my chips on machine-pin sockets, which seem to must easier to > pull up from the breadboard (of the circuit in development), and more durable > than the PIC's pins. -- sabachka-piclistSTOPspamspam_OUToddmagic.net I wish my keyboard had a SMITE key -- J-P Stacey -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email spamBeGonelistservSTOPspamEraseMEmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

No worries. :) Sabachka On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 04:39:52PM -0700, Bob Axtell wrote: > Actually, I'm wrong about that. They DON'T make 18P sockets anymore. The > smallest they go is 24P. Sorry. > At 04:07 PM 8/18/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >3M Textool makes 18P DIP sockets. Google for it. -- KILLspamsabachka-piclistspamBeGoneoddmagic.net She is one of the secret masters of the world: a librarian. They control information. Don't ever piss one off. -- Spider Robinson, The Callahan Touch -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email EraseMElistservEraseMEmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

More and more as time goes on. I just am currently at the edge of absorbtion rate, I think. Just responded to another message on this list saying I should be moving to it soon. At least, I think I did ... Sabachka On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 06:28:50PM -0700, Tal wrote: > Have you considered in circuit programming ? -- @spam@sabachka-piclist@spam@spam_OUToddmagic.net "There's no problem so large it can't be solved by killing the user off, deleting their files, closing their account and reporting their REAL earnings to the IRS." -- The Bastard Operator From Hell, #8 -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email spamBeGonelistservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

> Does anyone make 18-Pin ZIF sockets? I have a few, so someone must have made them, but I do not recall where I got them. > Are there suggestions > for a better alternative? Yes: ICSP! Just clip a DIP clip over your target chip. Or see the current discussion on ICSP headers. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu