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2004\06\21@112559 by Nigel Orr

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I am considering a warp13 or wisp628 programmer to replace a picstart plus
(ICSP is all I need, FLASH-only pics is not a problem).  Wouter thinks the
Xwisp software should run under linux, but does anyone here use it
regularly under linux?  Or do any of the 3rd-party software packages for
wisp628 run under linux?

The picstart has been reliable for years, running with picp.  I don't want
to switch to something where I spend all my time fighting to make the
software work!

Thanks,

Nigel
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2004\06\21@124554 by Martin Klingensmith

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Nigel Orr wrote:
> I am considering a warp13 or wisp628 programmer to replace a picstart plus
> (ICSP is all I need, FLASH-only pics is not a problem).  Wouter thinks the
> Xwisp software should run under linux, but does anyone here use it
> regularly under linux?  Or do any of the 3rd-party software packages for
> wisp628 run under linux?
>

I use it everyday in Linux. I get a lot of warnings from Python, but it
works to program and enable serial passthrough. The console emulation
does not work in my situation, but I don't need it either so I haven't
tried to fix it.
I use gputils to assemble.
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2004\06\21@175149 by Jan-Erik Soderholm

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Nigel Orr wrote :

> Wouter thinks the
> Xwisp software should run under linux, but does anyone here use it
> regularly under linux?  Or do any of the 3rd-party software
> packages for wisp628 run under linux?

The native C version of XWisp (Xwisp2) that Rob Hammerling
wrote (Well, I did the initial Windows port, but it's maintained
as a whole by Rob now), is written in a way that porting
to Linux should be easy. Actualy, I think someone already
have looked at this, but I can't remember who...

Anyway, *not* having to run Python was a *major* relief !
Just a two or three files to install instead of the couple of 1000's
of Python files, and it programs about twice as fast.
For me, this port was a go/nogo point in one current project.

Regards,
Jan-Erik

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2004\06\21@183510 by PicDude

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On Monday 21 June 2004 10:01 am, Nigel Orr scribbled:
> I am considering a warp13 or wisp628 programmer to replace a picstart plus
> (ICSP is all I need, FLASH-only pics is not a problem).  Wouter thinks the
> Xwisp software should run under linux, but does anyone here use it
> regularly under linux?  Or do any of the 3rd-party software packages for
> wisp628 run under linux?

Nigel,

I could not get it to run under Linux (using Wouter's Python programming SW), so I reverted to my homebuilt Tait with Odyssey under Linux.  However, my Wisp628 was homebuilt with my own PCB layout, so it was probably an issue with my device.

If you do try it, I recommend getting it directly from Wouter.  And once you get it working, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know, as I'd like to add it to my PIC-Linux page here... http://www.narwani.org/neil/electronics/pic_linux.html

Cheers,
-Neil.


>
> The picstart has been reliable for years, running with picp.  I don't want
> to switch to something where I spend all my time fighting to make the
> software work!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nigel

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2004\06\21@201606 by Martin Klingensmith

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PicDude wrote:

> If you do try it, I recommend getting it directly from Wouter.  And once you
> get it working, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know, as I'd like to add it
> to my PIC-Linux page here...
> http://www.narwani.org/neil/electronics/pic_linux.html
>
> Cheers,
> -Neil.
>

PicDude,
I use Wouter's Wisp628 in linux using the supplied Python script all the
time and it works fine.

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2004\06\22@040700 by Jan-Erik Soderholm

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PicDude wrote :

> I could not get it to run under Linux (using Wouter's Python
> programming SW), ...

Have you looked at the C-only port of XWisp at :

http://www.robh.nl ?

Select the "XWisp2..." link under "Newest material:"

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2004\06\22@073227 by Byron A Jeff

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On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 10:07:30AM +0200, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> PicDude wrote :
>
> > I could not get it to run under Linux (using Wouter's Python
> > programming SW), ...
>
> Have you looked at the C-only port of XWisp at :
>
> http://www.robh.nl ?
>
> Select the "XWisp2..." link under "Newest material:"

I took a 5 minute look. Now I feel I can comment.

For Linux I don't think that Rob's port is as effective as for Windows or
OS/2. The primary reason is that virtually every Linux distribution either
has Python, or allows for it to be trivially installed. BTW it doesn't
compile for a number of reasons:

1) File name case conflicts: xwisp2.c vs. XWisp2.c
2) Missing header files: io.h, direct.h
3) space/tab conflicts in the Makefile.

Of course the port is doable with some work. But it'll still take some work.

While I haven't tested Wouter's XWisp Python code, I did play extensively
with Wouter's ZPL.py. Same programming language, same programmer, so
probably the same issues: You may need to get and install a fresh pyserial
module to get everything to work. Other than that it should be drop and
play.

Hope this helps,

BAJ

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2004\06\22@074643 by Alan B. Pearce

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>While I haven't tested Wouter's XWisp Python code, I did play extensively
>with Wouter's ZPL.py. Same programming language, same programmer, so
>probably the same issues: You may need to get and install a fresh pyserial
>module to get everything to work. Other than that it should be drop and
>play.

Haven't tried this, but just throwing another idea in the ring. I do not
know how complete the sourgeforce jython implementation of python is, but
this may allow Wouters python scripts to run under Java.

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2004\06\22@074851 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> Haven't tried this, but just throwing another idea in the
> ring. I do not
> know how complete the sourgeforce jython implementation of
> python is, but
> this may allow Wouters python scripts to run under Java.

I once tried this and it worked, but it was terribly slow.

Wouter van Ooijen

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2004\06\22@102247 by Byron A Jeff

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On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 12:47:12PM +0100, Alan B. Pearce wrote:
> >While I haven't tested Wouter's XWisp Python code, I did play extensively
> >with Wouter's ZPL.py. Same programming language, same programmer, so
> >probably the same issues: You may need to get and install a fresh pyserial
> >module to get everything to work. Other than that it should be drop and
> >play.
>
> Haven't tried this, but just throwing another idea in the ring. I do not
> know how complete the sourgeforce jython implementation of python is, but
> this may allow Wouters python scripts to run under Java.

Wouter states on his website that this works. But I reiterate that Python for
Linux is both a standard install and stable enough to get the job done.

The original poster asked if Xwisp will work under Linux. The answer is that
it will with very minor changes. In fact let me test it right quick.

[5 virtual minutes pass...]

OK I'm back. It worked fine for me untouched. Only a minor bad interpreter
problem with the #!/usr/bin/python. But python xwisp.py had no complaints.

Just as I expected. I noticed that xwisp doesn't use pyserial. So that issue
never came up.

BAJ

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2004\06\22@204548 by Ricardo Medina

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Same here, using Wouter's XWISP Python program, Python 2.2.2, Red Hat 9,
and a home built Wisp 628. It works perfectly.

It was the first double sided board I made, and it turned out great,
although I must say that at first I was pretty scared of the thought of
etching a double sided PCB...

And thanks to Wouter for making such a useful programmer available to
us.

Ricardo Medina

On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 21:14, Martin Klingensmith wrote:

> PicDude,
> I use Wouter's Wisp628 in linux using the supplied Python script all the
> time and it works fine.



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2004\06\29@005023 by PicDude

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Can you tell me what flavor/version of Linux, python, Wisp code, environment, etc.

Thanks,
-Neil.



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2004\06\29@164754 by Martin Klingensmith

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Slackware 9.1
Python 2.3.3
XWisp 1.8 [?]

Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 8 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A

> ./xwisp.py GO file.hex
XWisp 1.08, command line mode
hardware: Wisp628 1.09 (fast)
../xwisp/xwisp.py:2026: FutureWarning: %u/%o/%x/%X of negative int will
return a signed string in Python 2.4 and up
  self.Log(( "__GoTo( %04X )" % Address ) + \
target: 16f877a, revision 07 (ID=0E27)
OK


PicDude wrote:
> Can you tell me what flavor/version of Linux, python, Wisp code, environment,
> etc.
>
> Thanks,
> -Neil.

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