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2004\06\24@095702 by Lindy Mayfield

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Just curious, as I have heard many times here mentioned getting samples of chips.  How is this done, and for whom?  I mean, could I as a hobbyist get or ask for a chip and they would just send me one? (I cannot imagine that happening unless I died and went to New Haven.)

Ciao!Lindy

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2004\06\24@100121 by Russell McMahon

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>Just curious, as I have heard many times here mentioned getting samples of
chips.  How is this done, and for whom?  I mean, could I as a hobbyist get
or ask for a chip and they would just send me one? (I cannot imagine that
happening unless I died and went to New Haven.)
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Lack of imagination is a terrible thing :-)

Peruse the Microchip site.

               Russell McMahon

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2004\06\24@100122 by hael Rigby-Jones

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>Just curious, as I have heard many times here mentioned
>getting samples of chips.  How is this done, and for whom?  I
>mean, could I as a hobbyist get or ask for a chip and they
>would just send me one? (I cannot imagine that happening
>unless I died and went to New Haven.)
>
>Ciao!Lindy

They don't supply to all countries, but you can order samples from the
microchip web site

http://sample.microchip.com

Regards

Mike




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2004\06\24@100123 by Randy Glenn

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samples.microchip.com/

Try ordering - I've had no trouble, and I'm just a lowly student

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2004\06\24@100125 by David VanHorn

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At 03:55 PM 6/24/2004 +0200, Lindy Mayfield wrote:

>Just curious, as I have heard many times here mentioned getting samples of chips.  How is this done, and for whom?  I mean, could I as a hobbyist get or ask for a chip and they would just send me one? (I cannot imagine that happening unless I died and went to New Haven.)

Just call your local rep and ask. Be honest.
They may, or may not decide to send you a couple freebies.
Know what you want, exactly, before you call, with a complete part number, including speed, temperature, and package type.

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2004\06\24@101401 by Lindy Mayfield

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That is quite harsh, and I don't think warranted.  I buy from here:

http://buy.microchip.com/

where my catalog comes up with a German flag.  I'm sure I missed something somewhere, which is why I asked.  I never said I was the sharpest knife in you guys drawer, and I miss things now and then.

I now see, from peoples posts, that I should go to their main page and select SAMPLES.  Duh for me, and sorry.



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2004\06\24@101610 by llile

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If you are a fast talker you can get free samples of anything but popcorn
parts (resistors, and so on)

MAXIM is a really famous source of free parts - I haven't paid for a
MAX232 in many years.  http://www.maxim-ic.com/   With their acquisition
of Dallas Semi, they win my award for the wierdest product line in the
industry.  Also some really really useful  dedicated ICs, such as special
purpose NiMH battery charger ICs.

Most copanies will give samples off their website.  Most of them are
trying to give samples to designers who design them in.  You can approach
this two ways - honestly tell them you are a starving student and one day
will be a top EE designer giving them millions of dollars of business, or
you can lie and say you are Lindy's Technical Services, designing a custom
part for an unnamed client who will buy about 5000 of these.  When the guy
calls back in 6 months you can say the project was dropped.



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Just curious, as I have heard many times here mentioned getting samples of
chips.  How is this done, and for whom?  I mean, could I as a hobbyist get
or ask for a chip and they would just send me one? (I cannot imagine that
happening unless I died and went to New Haven.)

Ciao!Lindy

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2004\06\24@102440 by Randy Glenn

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Ever since I found out that TI offers samples, I haven't bought a 7805
or a logic chip :) Though the 6-orders-in-6-months sneaks up on you
pretty fast.

Allegro and Analog Devices also offer samples, though non-USians
beware, Analog ships UPS, so you get stung for brokerage fees. (I had
to pay $40CAD to bring 2 chips across the border). National
Semiconductor's pretty good too, though they've started charging
shipping if your email address is from certain domains (like, say, my
school)

Beware ordering too many, though - you'll start to expect really cheap
shipping, and become rather disillusioned when you have to buy the
parts just like all the other mortals.

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2004\06\24@212812 by Ishaan Dalal

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Randy Glenn wrote:

> National
> Semiconductor's pretty good too, though they've started charging
> shipping if your email address is from certain domains (like, say, my
> school)

National does not charge shipping for samples to ".edu" domain email
addresses, but does limit those to 1 sample per week. Any more must be
paid for.

Another excellent source was (and still is, to some extent), On
Semiconductor. They used to be free, but now charge about $10 per sample
shipment (that can include 10 devices, from 5-25 pieces each, depending
on the actual price of the part).

Ah, and for FETs (and some oddities, like the 74C922/3 16/20-pin
keyboard handler chips --- fantastic when you don't want to bother with
the PORTB interrupt-on-change) there's Fairchild Semiconductor. They
also have a very nice selection of optocouplers, including some 10
Mbit/s ones that are great for doing up to 1 MHz PWM with HV stuff.

Other companies that provide free samples (but which I've never
personally tried) are Intersil (good line of high voltage
H-bridge/high-side drivers) and Linear Technology (analog odds and ends
and others).

Cheers,
-Ishaan

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2004\06\25@013948 by Bhargava

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Has anyone tried http://www.needasample.com? I registered on the site a
couple of months ago but today the site is not loading!

They had a good list of manufactures for samples. I ordered a few
atmel samples (as they give a hard time for samples) but the status
remained 'pending' :-)

Regards.

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2004\06\25@034126 by Dave King

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At 10:39 PM 24/06/04, you wrote:
>Has anyone tried http://www.needasample.com? I registered on the site a
>couple of months ago but today the site is not loading!
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>They had a good list of manufactures for samples. I ordered a few
>atmel samples (as they give a hard time for samples) but the status
>remained 'pending' :-)

I tried them a year ago, got on and signed up and went through about
a month of email and phone calls to get the "account" sorted out then
finally went to get on the site to order a sample and it went POOF!
Had some sort of weird dns, failure, then some programming bug and
finally a 404. Had forgotten all about them until your msg, tried em again
and its right back to where they were last year ie dead web.

They mus use a gerbil powered webserver...

Dave

PS if you do finally get connected could you post a note either to me offlist
or to the list.

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2004\06\25@212948 by Bhargava

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The website is working now but my sample orders are still pending...
I can't figure out their phone number. I have left several messages
but no answer from them.

Regards

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2004\06\26@013617 by David W.S. King

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> The website is working now but my sample orders are still pending...
> I can't figure out their phone number. I have left several messages
> but no answer from them.
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I could get on the site but still had a weird error. Had to sign
up with a alternative email addy, clicked on the company name and
all of a sudden it worked.

Thanks for the note.

Dave

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2004\06\26@041801 by Lindy Mayfield

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Hey, it worked for me, too.  It let me choose 5 free things.  (I would have been HAPPY to buy them, if the S&H wasn't so horribly expensive.)

I had a hard time choosing, but I finally settled on this list:
       
       PIC16F877A         PIC16F88
       PIC16F648A
       TC74A0
       MCP6002

Thanks for everyone's advice!

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2004\06\26@112017 by Byron A Jeff

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> > The website is working now but my sample orders are still pending...
> > I can't figure out their phone number. I have left several messages
> > but no answer from them.

There's no point in trying. After using the sample system a few times I now
understand how it works.

1) It's understaffed and justifiably so. It's whole purpose is to give parts
  away. Why spend extra money for that task?

2) The parts are drop shipped from the Far East.

3) And this is the most important point: the shipment will remain pending until
  all of the parts are available.

So what happens is that is that you max out and order 3 each of 5 parts. But
one or two of the parts are not immediately available. The system will not
ship the order until they are available and the system has no way of telling
you which parts are not available, when they will be available, and no way
to cancel unavailable parts.

So the upshot is that you wait. And wait. And wait.

The lesson learned is to only order exactly what you need down to a single
part. You can have 2 pending orders every 30 day period. So that means that
you can order 3 each of 2 different parts if necessary.

My last order has some exotic stuff on it. I figure it'll get September before
I see it. But that's OK. I'm glad to have the service.

If I need something, I'll just order it by itself. As soon as it comes
available it gets shipped.

BAJ

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2004\06\28@045703 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Allegro and Analog Devices also offer samples, though non-USians
>beware, Analog ships UPS, so you get stung for brokerage fees.
>(I had to pay $40CAD to bring 2 chips across the border).

Hmm, not had this problem in the UK, probably shipped the samples in bulk to
their UK office, and then sent them to me from there. I guess they don't
have a canadian office?

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2004\06\28@053435 by Jake Anderson

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AD parts arrive here free
i think in a UPS van too?

i think americans just dont like canada ;-P


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2004\06\28@054305 by Jake Anderson

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lol to clarify "here" is Australia

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2004\06\28@072333 by Matthew Brush

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> > i think americans just dont like canada ;-P

I've ordered samples from all kinds of places and
they're always free, even Allegro.  One time when I
ordered samples from TI I got a call from UPS about
some type of charges and I just told them to charge
TI, never heard anything more and I don't get bothered
anymore either.

I'm in Canada.

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2004\06\28@122500 by Byron A Jeff

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I posted about how a single item can hold up an order. Well today I got an
interesting surprise. A couple of weeks ago I put in a order for some
DSP pics, 16F88s and 16F688s, and a couple of exotics HCS201 code hopping
encoder and the I2C port extender.

I fully expected it would be a couple of months.

Well today I got a surprise: a partially filled order!

And interesting enough it had the two exotic parts and none of the PICs.

Maybe a different foundry.

BAJ

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'[PIC]: Question about Microchip samples'
2004\07\02@195710 by Jason S
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I placed an order in mid-May, also fully expecting to wait a couple of
months.

Yesterday I got a partial fill of one of the parts.  It must cost them a lot
more in shipping than the chips are worth to send 1 or 2 at a time, so I
feel kind of bad now.  Are they going to send the rest of the chips one at a
time too?  The buy site says they are all in stock in large quantities.

Jason

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2004\07\02@232122 by Matthew Brush

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--- Jason S <spamBeGonepicEraseMEspamCANADASPEAKS.COM> wrote: > I placed
an order in mid-May, also fully expecting
> to wait a couple of
> months.
>
I once ordered from electrosonic.ca.  I got some DIP
sockets amoung other things.  They were out of stock
on  3 of the 6 socket types I ordered, and they ended
up sending one or two at a time about 10 times ... now
how retarded is that!

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2004\07\03@083214 by Sergio Masci

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I don't know. Maybe they just valued your custom. You tell me how retarded that
is.

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