> >CC-4942-8A8D-9E0196C76089.html
> >
> > Where can I find this board? The dimension is just
> > nice for my projects? Any sites have them and
> willing
> > to ship them to malaysia?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
>
>
> That's a Radio Shack board -- that webpage even
> mentions the Radio Shack part number.  Check out
> http://www.radioshack.com  I know Radio Shack is in other
> countries, and they ship, but not sure about
> Malaysia specifically.
>
 

> On 6/8/06, Maarten Hofman <.....cashimorKILLspam.....gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The quality of those boards are not good. I was a TA before
> >
> > What is wrong with their quality? I know they are rather expensive for
> > the amount of board you get, but I've never noticed any quality issues.
> > In fact, even after extensive reuse the plating seems to stay well
> > connected to the base, compared to other products I've used. They also
> > tend to require less cleaning before use (so far I have used about 15 or
> > so).
>
> I am not so sure of what you are using. The one we buy for the students
> were really not good. The students spent way to much time to solder.
> So the next TA did the layout for the board and got the boards
> manufactured in China ... So the next batch of students had a much
> easier time dealing with soldering.
>
> To be honest, just the color of the board will tell you it is not a very
> good one. Maybe my standard of a good prototype board is a bit high after
> being spoiled with the high quality prototyping board I was using in the
> previous company...
>
> Regards,
> Xiaofan

> On 6/8/06, Maarten Hofman <cashimorspam_OUTgmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > The quality of those boards are not good. I was
> a TA before
> >
> > What is wrong with their quality? I know they are
> rather expensive for the
> > amount of board you get, but I've never noticed
> any quality issues. In fact,
> > even after extensive reuse the plating seems to
> stay well connected to the
> > base, compared to other products I've used. They
> also tend to require less
> > cleaning before use (so far I have used about 15
> or so).
> >
> I am not so sure of what you are using. The one we
> buy for the students
> were really not good. The students spent way to much
> time to solder.
> So the next TA did the layout for the board and got
> the boards
> manufactured in China ... So the next batch of
> students had a much
> easier time dealing with soldering.
>
> To be honest, just the color of the board will tell
> you it is not a very good
> one. Maybe my standard of a good prototype board is
> a bit high after being
> spoiled with the high quality prototyping board I
> was using in the previous
> company...
>
> Regards,
> Xiaofan

> Actually you're right about this.  Those Radio Shack
> boards are annoying to
> work with.  IIRC, the holes are relatively large
> compared to the component
> leads, and add that there is no thru-hole plating, I
> usually ended up with
> large blobs of solder around each pin.  Also cutting
> the boards is a no-no as
> they disintegrate easily.
>
> I have much much better results with my own boards
> using 4pcb's barebones
> service, and they let me put a bunch of circuits on
> 1 panel.  Can't remember
> when last I messed with etching, drilling, and all
> that stuff.
>
> Cheers,
> -Neil.
>
>
>
> On Thursday 08 June 2006 08:30, Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> > On 6/8/06, Maarten Hofman <KILLspamcashimorKILLspamgmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > The quality of those boards are not good. I
> was a TA before
> > >
> > > What is wrong with their quality? I know they
> are rather expensive for
> > > the amount of board you get, but I've never
> noticed any quality issues.
> > > In fact, even after extensive reuse the plating
> seems to stay well
> > > connected to the base, compared to other
> products I've used. They also
> > > tend to require less cleaning before use (so far
> I have used about 15 or
> > > so).
> >
> > I am not so sure of what you are using. The one we
> buy for the students
> > were really not good. The students spent way to
> much time to solder.
> > So the next TA did the layout for the board and
> got the boards
> > manufactured in China ... So the next batch of
> students had a much
> > easier time dealing with soldering.
> >
> > To be honest, just the color of the board will
> tell you it is not a very
> > good one. Maybe my standard of a good prototype
> board is a bit high after
> > being spoiled with the high quality prototyping
> board I was using in the
> > previous company...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Xiaofan

> http://web.mac.com/brianbr/iWeb/Brian%27s%20WorkBench/MSP430%
> 20/0EFBD2D9-B3CC-4942-8A8D-9E0196C76089.html
>
> Where can I find this board? The dimension is just
> nice for my projects? Any sites have them and willing
> to ship them to malaysia?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
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> On 6/8/06, Maarten Hofman <RemoveMEcashimorTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The quality of those boards are not good. I was a TA before
>>
>> What is wrong with their quality? I know they are rather expensive  
>> for the
>> amount of board you get, but I've never noticed any quality  
>> issues. In fact,
>> even after extensive reuse the plating seems to stay well  
>> connected to the
>> base, compared to other products I've used. They also tend to  
>> require less
>> cleaning before use (so far I have used about 15 or so).
>>
> I am not so sure of what you are using. The one we buy for the  
> students
> were really not good. The students spent way to much time to solder.
> So the next TA did the layout for the board and got the boards
> manufactured in China ... So the next batch of students had a much
> easier time dealing with soldering.
>
> To be honest, just the color of the board will tell you it is not a  
> very good
> one. Maybe my standard of a good prototype board is a bit high  
> after being
> spoiled with the high quality prototyping board I was using in the  
> previous
> company...
>
> Regards,
> Xiaofan

>>
>> Actually you're right about this.  Those Radio Shack boards are  
>> annoying
>> to
>> work with.  IIRC, the holes are relatively large compared to the  
>> component
>> leads, and add that there is no thru-hole plating, I usually ended  
>> up with
>> large blobs of solder around each pin.  Also cutting the boards is  
>> a no-no
>> as
>> they disintegrate easily.

> >For some reason such boards seem to be much less
> common (or
> >more expensive) in the USA, maybe in other regions
> of the world too.
>
> Possibly because of freely available PCB CAD
> packages (such as eagle) make
> it so easy for a hobbyist to design a PCB for a
> project, and get it made at
> a PCB house by emailing the files. No longer is the
> cost of a PCB specific
> to a project such a bar to building something. And
> proto boards always have
> been expensive ...
>

>
> Wow, I've very surprised to hear that. I just got my
> order of futurlec
> boards and they are VERY nice. The hole through
> plating is perfect, the
> holes themselves are pretty much exactly the right
> size, the material is
> very solid. I can't find anything to complain about
> the boards
> themselves (now, the time it took to GET the boards
> was much longer then
> I was led to expect).
>
> TTYL
>

> With Futurlec shipment time tends to grow long on it's
> tooth. Don't expect great delivery time. The funny
> thing is that I suspect they have to order parts and
> sit on the order until they  have them all. But they
> do good on their word. If they can't get the part they
> refund you.
>
> John
>
> >
> > Wow, I've very surprised to hear that. I just got my
> > order of futurlec
> > boards and they are VERY nice. The hole through
> > plating is perfect, the
> > holes themselves are pretty much exactly the right
> > size, the material is
> > very solid. I can't find anything to complain about
> > the boards
> > themselves (now, the time it took to GET the boards
> > was much longer then
> > I was led to expect).
> >
> > TTYL
> >
> > --

>
> Well in Malaysia we have proto board for about USD
> 0.26 for a small board. Singapore is quite cheap too
> and have better quality.
>
> John
>
> --- "Alan B. Pearce" <RemoveMEA.B.PearceTakeThisOuTrl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > >For some reason such boards seem to be much less
> > common (or
> > >more expensive) in the USA, maybe in other regions
> > of the world too.
> >
> > Possibly because of freely available PCB CAD
> > packages (such as eagle) make
> > it so easy for a hobbyist to design a PCB for a
> > project, and get it made at
> > a PCB house by emailing the files. No longer is the
> > cost of a PCB specific
> > to a project such a bar to building something. And
> > proto boards always have
> > been expensive ...
> >
> > --

> Hi John.
>
> Do you have any references to local pcb
> manufacturing companies in Malaysia ?
>
>
> WBR Dmitriy.
>
>
> kravnus wolf wrote:
> >
> > Well in Malaysia we have proto board for about USD
> > 0.26 for a small board. Singapore is quite cheap
> too
> > and have better quality.
> >
> > John
> >
> > --- "Alan B. Pearce" <EraseMEA.B.Pearcerl.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > >For some reason such boards seem to be much
> less
> > > common (or
> > > >more expensive) in the USA, maybe in other
> regions
> > > of the world too.
> > >
> > > Possibly because of freely available PCB CAD
> > > packages (such as eagle) make
> > > it so easy for a hobbyist to design a PCB for a
> > > project, and get it made at
> > > a PCB house by emailing the files. No longer is
> the
> > > cost of a PCB specific
> > > to a project such a bar to building something.
> And
> > > proto boards always have
> > > been expensive ...
> > >
> > > --

> Speaking of prototyping, I'm trying to put together
> a sort of "survey"
> of hobbyist construction techniques, and was
> wondering whether anyone
> knows of tutorials aimed at taking some of the
> "skill" out of using
> various sorts of protoboard construction (especially
> stripboard,
> pad-per-hole board, and bare perfboard (ie
> point-to-point construction.)
>
> BillW

>I am not so sure of what you are using. The one we buy for the students
>were really not good. The students spent way to much time to solder.
>So the next TA did the layout for the board and got the boards
>manufactured in China ... So the next batch of students had a much
>easier time dealing with soldering.
>
>To be honest, just the color of the board will tell you it is not a very good
>one. Maybe my standard of a good prototype board is a bit high after being
>spoiled with the high quality prototyping board I was using in the previous
>company...
>
>Regards,
>Xiaofan
>  
>